If Columbo is our starting RT who do you keep in reserve at tackle?

[theogt]

if you coach like, "what if there is an injury?" you give up talent that can potentially help you down the road, as in the case with McQ and BP feeling that if he taps into his enormous potential, that he's going to be a good one, now I could see if we needed a starting RT, and it was only Fabini and McQ fighting for the role

and think about it, if you're keeping Columbo and Pettiti, Pettiti has been practicing at LT, we have Pettiti and McQ practicing at both RT and LT, not Fabini, that has to tell you something

I know the buzz word of the week has been "progress stopper" but you guys seem to have forgotten that BP wants to win now. If Flo or Colombo go down and Petitti and McQ are the only options, I'm scared.

You're also assuming that McQ won't make it to the PS. I simply disagree with you there.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Your very welcome.

You two have made me change my mind 10 times already and usually I'm very hard headed.

I was 8 of those times right?

 

[theogt]

Actually at this point Pettiti is light years ahead of FAbini. All I ever see Fabini do is miss blocks and get beat. At his age this tendency will only increase. I just think the guy doesnt have much left in the tank.

And it is also very possible that after 6 weeks into the season and practicing with the team McQuistan could seriously contribute as well.

Fabini didn't miss a single block in the New Orleans game. Not a single one. I haven't broken down the tape for tonight, but he played well from what I could tell.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I know the buzz word of the week has been "progress stopper" but you guys seem to have forgotten that BP wants to win now. If Flo or Colombo go down and Petitti and McQ are the only options, I'm scared.

I'm scared if any of our starting Olineman should go down

You're also assuming that McQ won't make it to the PS. I simply disagree with you there.

a team intrigued by BP's praise of McQ will snatch him up to see what the buzz is about

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fabini didn't miss a single block in the New Orleans game. Not a single one. I haven't broken down the tape for tonight, but he played well from what I could tell.

Well look at the tape again because he missed to guys in pass protecction on inside moves.

 

[theogt]

I'm scared if any of our starting Olineman should go down

I wouldn't be if Fabini is stepping in.

a team intrigued by BP's praise of McQ will snatch him up to see what the buzz is about

I don't think any team would make roster decisions based on BP's statements in press conference.

 

[mikek3322]

That could be *THE* signing of the offseason.

Not really of the off-season, since he was signed last November, but it looks like this Cowboys' "project" is a huge success. (Sorry to come into the discussion so late.)

I do have to agree with the Grand Poobah, though, about the discussion. I originally thought that Fabini looks washed-up and won't start. Now, though, I think he may not be so washed-up that he won't be signed somewhere else if we chance deactivating him, so I'm not sure what BP is going to do.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I know the buzz word of the week has been "progress stopper" but you guys seem to have forgotten that BP wants to win now. If Flo or Colombo go down and Petitti and McQ are the only options, I'm scared.

You're also assuming that McQ won't make it to the PS. I simply disagree with you there.

Your acting as if Pettiti is nonexistent.

 

[theogt]

Well look at the tape again because he missed to guys in pass protecction on inside moves.

Name the series and play because I'll look right now.

 

[theogt]

Your acting as if Pettiti is nonexistent.

No, I'm not. He'll likely be the LT backup/swing.

 

[jterrell]

I'd keep

OT: Flo, Columbo, McQ, Fabini, Petitti.
OG: Rivera, Kosier, Proctor
OC: Gurode.

I'd trade Al Johnson. Nothign against Johnson but his value could he huge as Centers have suffered injuries this preseason and SF and CLE both need a starter. Johnson probably fits other teams better than us. Gurode looks great at OC right now and Kosier can lay the spot if Gurode were injured.

Why trade Johnson instea dof just releasing Fabini or cutting Petitti? Simply getting something in return. McQ looks to have the raw ability to help long term but not much this season. Petitti is still too young to just give up on. Johnson is not getting any bigger. He continues to fall below 290 once football starts up.

 

[Screw The Hall]

I think the writing was on the wall as soon as McQuistan started taking the b/u LT snaps. One of the primary reasons Parcells brought Fabini in was so that he could play him at either tackle spot. But he's getting absolutely no snaps at LT. And it's pretty clear he's grooming Pettiti for the swing spot. In my mind that means he has to win the RT spot outright to make the final roster, and it doesn't look like that's going to happen.


I think it will be

T- Flozell, Colombo, Pettiti, and McQuistan
G- Rivera, Kosier, Procter
C- Gurode, Johnson

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I wouldn't be if Fabini is stepping in.

I would, cuz he didn't win the starting RT job, obviously, and Columbo by no means is a world-beater

I don't think any team would make roster decisions based on BP's statements in press conference.

you know teams scout other teams this time of the year since final cuts are coming up? teams are bound to know that we're in a pickle with who we keep at OT, they're going to see BP raving about McQ constantly, about his potential, how hard a worker he is, he's young, they are going to want to take a look

 

[theogt]

I would, cuz he didn't win the starting RT job, obviously, and Columbo by no means is a world-beater

It's very close between Fabini and Colombo.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'd keep

OT: Flo, Columbo, McQ, Fabini, Petitti.
OG: Rivera, Kosier, Proctor
OC: Gurode.

I'd trade Al Johnson. Nothign against Johnson but his value could he huge as Centers have suffered injuries this preseason and SF and CLE both need a starter. Johnson probably fits other teams better than us. Gurode looks great at OC right now and Kosier can lay the spot if Gurode were injured.

Why trade Johnson instea dof just releasing Fabini or cutting Petitti? Simply getting something in return. McQ looks to have the raw ability to help long term but not much this season. Petitti is still too young to just give up on. Johnson is not getting any bigger. He continues to fall below 290 once football starts up.

Id be surprised if we only kept 8 lineman and noone other than Gurode can play center in that group.

That being said if we keep Johnson and the guys that you listed then that gives us 9 OL and we can keep Fabini as well.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think the writing was on the wall as soon as McQuistan started taking the b/u LT snaps. One of the primary reasons Parcells brought Fabini in was so that he could play him at either tackle spot. But he's getting absolutely no snaps at LT. And it's pretty clear he's grooming Pettiti for the swing spot. In my mind that means he has to win the RT spot outright to make the final roster, and it doesn't look like that's going to happen.

thank you, I was hoping I wasn't the only one noticing that McQ and Pettiti, NOT Fabini, are practicing as the swing OTs, one of the 2 reasons Fabini came here in the 1st place

Fabini has to win the RT job, or we keep 9 lineman

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Id be surprised if we only kept 8 lineman and noone other than Gurode can play center in that group.

That being said if we keep Johnson and the guys that you listed then that gives us 9 OL and we can keep Fabini as well.

I cant count apparently.

Fabini IMO only makes it he beats out Columbo or we keep 10 linemen.

 

[theogt]

I think the writing was on the wall as soon as McQuistan started taking the b/u LT snaps. One of the primary reasons Parcells brought Fabini in was so that he could play him at either tackle spot. But he's getting absolutely no snaps at LT. And it's pretty clear he's grooming Pettiti for the swing spot. In my mind that means he has to win the RT spot outright to make the final roster, and it doesn't look like that's going to happen.


I think it will be

T- Flozell, Colombo, Pettiti, and McQuistan
G- Rivera, Kosier, Procter
C- Gurode, Johnson

This makes no sense. You're basically saying that we have:

(1) Swing tackle (petitti)
(2) Two left tackles (Flo and McQ)
(1) Right tackle.

Our strongest position is left tackle. Why would we have a full-time backup there rather than a full-time backup (potential starter) at right tackle?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This makes no sense. You're basically saying that we have:

(1) Swing tackle (petitti)
(2) Two left tackles (Flo and McQ)
(1) Right tackle.

Our strongest position is left tackle. Why would we have a full-time backup there rather than a full-time backup (potential starter) at right tackle?

Umm actually you not including Pettiti as a right tackle makes no sense. Just cause he can play both doent mean squat.

Bottomline is that Pettiti is the primary back up and if our right tackle goes down then he goes in. Not Fabini.

 

[Screw The Hall]

This makes no sense. You're basically saying that we have:

(1) Swing tackle (petitti)
(2) Two left tackles (Flo and McQ)
(1) Right tackle.

Our strongest position is left tackle. Why would we have a full-time backup there rather than a full-time backup (potential starter) at right tackle?

Here's how I see that playing out. BP only takes 3 of those tackles to the game, Adams ... Colombo ... and Pettiti. If god for bid something should happen to Flozell again then Pettiti's his man for the rest of that game. But should any injury that occurs to Adams be long term, I think he puts McQuistan on the fast track to being the longterm (rest of the season) replacement. And Pettiti's definately the backup at RT should something happen to Colombo.