If Jason Garrett/Linehan had made that call what would you do?

[SDCowboy]

I don't understand why Wilson is taking seemingly no heat in this. Wilson still threw the pick regardless of the play. If Romo threw that pick there, I highly doubt the playcall being stupid would come up.

 

[CowboyGil]

I looked a the play again. It was awful all around, but Butler actually committed PI. He knocks the WR in the back off his route, which allows him to make a play on the ball that was put out a little to far either way.

http://heavy.com/sports/2015/02/russell-wilson-malcolm-butler-interception-game-winning-vine-video/

Mike Carey tweeted it was PI as well.

https://twitter.com/mikecareyref94

Bad call, PI, bad throw, stupid play call... Emmitt called in the dumbest call in NFL history. Deion pretty much the same thing. I heard Michael Irvin said they ere just trying to give the glory to Wilson, instead of Lynch.

Additionally, you run on second and then try pass on third with 2 TOs. And the Pats defense couldn't stop the run anyways, so yeah, it was a bad call, irrespective of other people are successful at throwing it in specific contexts.

No justification for that play-call.

Actually, they had one TO. You could run on 2nd down, don't make it, call a TO. pass on 3rd down. nobody open, throw it out of the back of the end zone. pass on 4th down.

 

[khiladi]

Actually, they had one TO. You could run on 2nd down, don't make it, call a TO. pass on 3rd down. nobody open, throw it out of the back of the end zone. pass on 4th down.

Thanks for the correction. That route choice was bad as well. Matthews was winning the jump ball all day. Why not a side-line fade route if you want to choose pass. I remember Murray throwing his helmet last year. "Beast Mode" should have done the same thing as soon as he heard that garbage.

 

[sbark]

I don't understand why Wilson is taking seemingly no heat in this. Wilson still threw the pick regardless of the play. If Romo threw that pick there, I highly doubt the playcall being stupid would come up.

Yup, Garrett has little downside risk in making that same call........the media would place blame on Romo totally. Linehan and Garrett would skate away free.

 

[Doomsday]

Carroll stated they threw it because of the number of men NE had in the box. Seems like exactly the sort of thing Dallas would do, let the defensive numbers dictate to you, instead of making the logical call given the circumstances of the game. Letting the defense take your best player out of the game because of the numbers is a huge fail by the coaching staff at such a critical juncture of the game.

I think the part that makes what Seattle did worse is they dont have a Dez Bryant, you can trust Dez to either catch as he has been a beast in the red zone his whole career. At least with Dallas one could make the argument that Dez is our best offensive player, with Seattle that player is clearly Lynch.

 

[Doomsday101]

Carroll stated they threw it because of the number of men NE had in the box. Seems like exactly the sort of thing Dallas would do, let the defensive numbers dictate to you, instead of making the logical call given the circumstances of the game. Letting the defense take your best player out of the game because of the numbers is a huge fail by the coaching staff at such a critical juncture of the game.

I think the part that makes what Seattle did worse is they dont have a Dez Bryant, you can trust Dez to either catch as he has been a beast in the red zone his whole career. At least with Dallas one could make the argument that Dez is our best offensive player, with Seattle that player is clearly Lynch.

Everyone expected the run, and often when that happens you end up with a guy wide open for an easy TD. To me it falls to the QB to determine weather to throw it or get rid of it.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

I don't understand why Wilson is taking seemingly no heat in this. Wilson still threw the pick regardless of the play. If Romo threw that pick there, I highly doubt the playcall being stupid would come up.

Agreed. It's a situation where I think most experienced QB's, say a Brady, or a Romo, would know it's a bad call and either call a run instead or just throw it out the back of the endzone. Don't try to force anything in that situation.

And in regards to the OP, this play is exactly the kind of stupid crap that the Cowboys have done up until this season.

 

[Doomsday]

Everyone expected the run, and often when that happens you end up with a guy wide open for an easy TD. To me it falls to the QB to determine weather to throw it or get rid of it.

It is 2nd and one with the game on the line, you give it to Beast Mode, the worse thing that can happen is he loses 1/2 yard and its 3rd and goal from the 1 1/2. No reason to go shotgun. I dont even get why they didnt change out their personnel after he ran for 5 yards on 1st and goal from the 6. It was an epic fail all around for Seattle, their coaches out thought themselves and it cost them a chance to go back to back.

 

[locked&loaded]

I looked a the play again. It was awful all around, but Butler actually committed PI. He knocks the WR in the back off his route, which allows him to make a play on the ball that was put out a little to far either way.

http://heavy.com/sports/2015/02/russell-wilson-malcolm-butler-interception-game-winning-vine-video/

Mike Carey tweeted it was PI as well.

https://twitter.com/mikecareyref94

Bad call, PI, bad throw, stupid play call... Emmitt called in the dumbest call in NFL history. Deion pretty much the same thing. I heard Michael Irvin said they ere just trying to give the glory to Wilson, instead of Lynch.

Additionally, you run on second and then try pass on third with 2 TOs. And the Pats defense couldn't stop the run anyways, so yeah, it was a bad call, irrespective of other people are successful at throwing it in specific contexts.

No justification for that play-call.

lol...wut

 

[Doomsday101]

It is 2nd and one with the game on the line, you give it to Beast Mode, the worse thing that can happen is he loses 1/2 yard and its 3rd and goal from the 1 1/2. No reason to go shotgun. I dont even get why they didnt change out their personnel after he ran for 5 yards on 1st and goal from the 6. It was an epic fail all around for Seattle, their coaches out thought themselves and it cost them a chance to go back to back.

Chances are I would run as well but if I was going to throw it I would do it on an early down knowing I had a 3rd and 4th down to then run it. Had the WR been wide open for the easy catch and TD no one would say a thing, it happens every week where defense is stacking up on the run the RB or WR slip outside wide open for the TD. It is when it goes bad that the HC is going to get questioned and I get that. You take a risk and it fails then someone must answer for it but it is not like all teams do not do it.

 

[Idgit]

I don't understand why Wilson is taking seemingly no heat in this. Wilson still threw the pick regardless of the play. If Romo threw that pick there, I highly doubt the playcall being stupid would come up.

I don't get it, either. That guy is a golden boy for some reason, but he made a lot of really questionable throws in these playoffs, and that last pass was awful.

 

[khiladi]

lol...wut

1. You can't play through the back of the WR. Butler played through him for the ball and knocked him completely off his route onto the ground. It's further comical because the NFL explicitly stated this year they would target the DB specifically for calls. What makes it even further comical is they 'missed' the trip by the Patriots defender with his hands when he fell to the ground and got beat up the middle. They went absolutely blind the last few drives. They missed the clear offensive PI on the deep ball Brady chucked.

2. If Wilson didn't place it out front either, Butler wouldn't have caught it as well, because the ball would have hit 83 right in the chest, as opposed to having to extent his hands out. He threw a bad ball, though it was technically still catch able.

3. It was a bad call, because Lynch should have gotten the ball. He couldn't be stopped.

 

[locked&loaded]

1. You can't play through the back of the WR. Butler played through him for the ball and knocked him completely off his route onto the ground. It's further comical because the NFL explicitly stated this year they would target the DB specifically for calls. What makes it even further comical is they 'missed' the trip by the Patriots defender with his hands when he fell to the ground and got beat up the middle. They went absolutely blind the last few drives. They missed the clear offensive PI on the deep ball Brady chucked.

2. If Wilson didn't place it out front either, Butler wouldn't have caught it as well, because the ball would have hit 83 right in the chest, as opposed to having to extent his hands out. He threw a bad ball, though it was technically still catch able.

3. It was a bad call, because Lynch should have gotten the ball. He couldn't be stopped.

Only the stuff I bolded needed a response, because that was the only completely ludicrous statement.

the bad throw bolded part was just caught up in the mess of your *pi* rant.

yes it was a bad throw, bad call, and run marshawn...

but the Pi..

lol...wut

 

[Doomsday]

The defender beat the WR to the spot, it was a great defensive play combined with a bad throw.

 

[khiladi]

Only the stuff I bolded needed a response, because that was the only completely ludicrous statement.

the bad throw bolded part was just caught up in the mess of your *pi* rant.

yes it was a bad throw, bad call, and run marshawn...

but the Pi..

lol...wut

YOU CANNOT PLAY THROUGH THE BACK OF THE WR, EVEN IF YOUR PLAYING THE BALL... That is a PI no matter which way you spin it.

It's exactly why Mike Carey, FORMER NFL REFEREE, tweeted that PI should have been called on Butler.

 

[CowboyGil]

2014 Cowboys....I think run it all the way.

 

[khiladi]

The defender beat the WR to the spot, it was a great defensive play combined with a bad throw.

No, he didn't and it's not close. He hit him in the back before the ball even reached. You can't hit a defender in the back and say he beat the WR to the spot.

http://heavy.com/sports/2015/02/russell-wilson-malcolm-butler-interception-game-winning-vine-video/

 

[JoeKing]

The Cowboys have made that same call and I still love the coaching staff.

 

[khiladi]

It's like when the referees missed the clear:

1. Offensive PI on the WR when Brady deep-chucked it on the second to last of their offensive drive. Would have put them back ten yards.
2. Defensive PI on the tripping call on the Seahawks last drive when the Patriots DB, when he was falling, stuck his hand out and tripped the WR. This last one, if I remember, was pretty much over-shadowed by the miracle catch. Would have given them an automatic first.
3. And this one where Butler played through the back of the WR. Given them a full set of downs.

3 drives in a row, completely missed interference calls..

All hilarious in the last crucial stretch when the NFL said it would specifically enforce the DB rules tighter. How this doesn't qualify as a PI in that context, when 83 was also knocked completely off his route is just comical...

 

[Crown Royal]

Edelman's TD was offensive PI as well. Probably the most blatant of all.