If Jason Garrett/Linehan had made that call what would you do?

[khiladi]

The defensive PI is actually even clearer on this zoomed in footage:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/02/rus...darrell-bevell-super-bowl-xlix-malcolm-butler

 

[Plankton]

Wilson made the mistake of leading Lockette too much on the throw, opening a window for Butler to undercut the throw. Great defensive play, poor throw.

But, and this is from someone who doesn't rag on playcalling much if ever, an epically bad play call.

You're going to tell me that you would rather put the ball in Ricardo Lockette's hands instead of Marshawn Lynch's? To me, you win or lose with your best player getting the ball in his hands, not your fifth best option. I would never have considered a pass on that play, but if they did, it would have made more sense to get Wilson moving on a bootleg to at least present the option of a run, and make it easier to throw the ball away if no one was open. Throwing the ball to the most congested area of the field with a shorter QB is an unbelievably bad strategic decision. I put all of this on Pete Carroll - he has the power to overrule any play call, and he let it go.

They also committed a bad error in wasting a timeout on the drive when they nearly let the play clock run down. With that timeout, they could run four times to score without the clock running out on them.

Brutal way to lose a game. I'm glad that I'm not a Seahawk fan.

 

[Idgit]

The defensive PI is actually even clearer on this zoomed in footage:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/02/rus...darrell-bevell-super-bowl-xlix-malcolm-butler

Sorry, dude. I'm not seeing what you're seeing. That just looks like a great play by the DB to me. He timed it perfectly, and has the same right to the ball the WR has. It doesn't look early and, even if it were, it's so closely timed that no crew on the planet is going to throw that flag.

Slowing down the play, though, makes it even clearer that it was a bad decision on Russell Wilson's part.

 

[Crown Royal]

Sorry, dude. I'm not seeing what you're seeing. That just looks like a great play by the DB to me. He timed it perfectly, and has the same right to the ball the WR has. It doesn't look early and, even if it were, it's so closely timed that no crew on the planet is going to throw that flag.

Slowing down the play, though, makes it even clearer that it was a bad decision on Russell Wilson's part.

Pretty much exactly how I feel about it. I'd rather they not throw a flag there than throw it no matter what, so long as the guy is playing the ball.

And I agree - I was defending Wilson a whole lot, but not I see he basically invited the DB to grab this one. Still a great play by Butler, but Wilson didn't even consider him on the throw.

 

[locked&loaded]

The defensive PI is actually even clearer on this zoomed in footage:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/02/rus...darrell-bevell-super-bowl-xlix-malcolm-butler

sorry you lost money on the game?

It is scary people think like this...

 

[khiladi]

sorry you lost money on the game?

It is scary people think like this...

Actually, I just saw this angle. It was pretty much all Wilson's fault.

 

[Idgit]

Wilson made the mistake of leading Lockette too much on the throw, opening a window for Butler to undercut the throw. Great defensive play, poor throw.

But, and this is from someone who doesn't rag on playcalling much if ever, an epically bad play call.

You're going to tell me that you would rather put the ball in Ricardo Lockette's hands instead of Marshawn Lynch's? To me, you win or lose with your best player getting the ball in his hands, not your fifth best option. I would never have considered a pass on that play, but if they did, it would have made more sense to get Wilson moving on a bootleg to at least present the option of a run, and make it easier to throw the ball away if no one was open. Throwing the ball to the most congested area of the field with a shorter QB is an unbelievably bad strategic decision. I put all of this on Pete Carroll - he has the power to overrule any play call, and he let it go.

Brutal way to lose a game. I'm glad that I'm not a Seahawk fan.

Awful play call, I agree. Even if you don't buy that that play has to be a run (and that play pretty much had to be a run), I still don't like that call.

I will say, though, looking at the replay over and over, Wilson probably didn't see the coverage because Browner and Kearse were obscuring him. That looks like a gimme TD and then the coverage jumps the ball out of nowhere.

And, Bevel, quit blaming your WR on that play. Your HC is giving you cover for your stupid play call, and your QB almost turned that ball over three times on that drive before he was finally able to do it at the goal line. That play was not on Lockette. If you want to throw it to your WR4 and not run it with the best short yardage RB in the game from the 6 inch line, at least have the self respect to take the heat when somebody asks you about it.

 

[khiladi]

Sorry, dude. I'm not seeing what you're seeing. That just looks like a great play by the DB to me. He timed it perfectly, and has the same right to the ball the WR has. It doesn't look early and, even if it were, it's so closely timed that no crew on the planet is going to throw that flag.

Slowing down the play, though, makes it even clearer that it was a bad decision on Russell Wilson's part.

The original angle appeared to me that he was playing through his back, so even if he was playing the ball, it's irrelevant. Then I just saw another angle from the front. It was all on Wilson. Horrible throw.

 

[Idgit]

The original angle appeared to me that he was playing through his back, so even if he was playing the ball, it's irrelevant. Then I just saw another angle from the front. It was all on Wilson. Horrible throw.

Yeah, that last clip you posted is great.

 

[links18]

Personally, I have no problem with the play call. At least it wasn't predictable.......

 

[Jenky]

The original angle appeared to me that he was playing through his back, so even if he was playing the ball, it's irrelevant. Then I just saw another angle from the front. It was all on Wilson. Horrible throw.

I can't even say that's a horrible throw. He leads him right to the endzone. If the pass is thrown right to him, the receiver is stuck on the half yard line.

The DB made a 1 out of a hundred play. He undercut a pick play and beat the receiver to the spot. IMO, a phenomenal play.

 

[erod]

Throwing made perfect sense with only one timeout. But it called for one of those tight end/fullback out plays. If he's wide open, you hit him, and if not you send it to the bleachers.

Then, you run the ball and use your time out if Lynch doesn't score, setting up a fourth down play for the game.

But calling a route into the fray where anything can happen made no sense. Not from the one yard line.

 

[rynochop]

They have done this sort of thing this year.

It just didn't end up with a interception. We just kicked the FG instead.

they did that in the seattle game and tony got away with a near pic, maybe not at the one but was close iirc.

 

[Jenky]

Throwing made perfect sense with only one timeout. But it called for one of those tight end/fullback out plays. If he's wide open, you hit him, and if not you send it to the bleachers.

Then, you run the ball and use your time out if Lynch doesn't score, setting up a fourth down play for the game.

But calling a route into the fray where anything can happen made no sense. Not from the one yard line.

They got too cute. They have Wilson and Lynch who are both capable of running the ball in. The Patriots couldn't stop the run.

A boot leg with Wilson, dive with Lynch, or a read option play would have sufficed. That's it. Something all so obvious to everyone on the face of the planet, but 1 guy.

 

[khiladi]

I can't even say that's a horrible throw. He leads him right to the endzone. If the pass is thrown right to him, the receiver is stuck on the half yard line.

The DB made a 1 out of a hundred play. He undercut a pick play and beat the receiver to the spot. IMO, a phenomenal play.

I saw the same thing, they would have been stopped if he didn't lead him. So it's like a wasted time out as well when you could have run it. Bad play call.

 

[erod]

They got too cute. They have Wilson and Lynch who are both capable of running the ball in. The Patriots couldn't stop the run.

A boot leg with Wilson, dive with Lynch, or a read option play would have sufficed. That's it. Something all so obvious to everyone on the face of the planet, but 1 guy.

Not after they blew the time out. With only one remaining, the only way you ensure yourself four cracks at it are by throwing on that play. They just called a horrible play. You throw away from the masses, not into it. It could have been tipped into the air easily.

 

[Bleu Star]

I'm very comfortable knowing that the current management team on offense would not have tried to get cute in that situation. It feels good saying that too given our propensity to do the cutest thing in the worst situations in recent years. Garrett and Linehan would have pounded Demarco. Boom. W in the books.

 

[Plankton]

Not after they blew the time out. With only one remaining, the only way you ensure yourself four cracks at it are by throwing on that play. They just called a horrible play. You throw away from the masses, not into it. It could have been tipped into the air easily.

They could have thrown on third down, and ensured four cracks at it.

 

[Idgit]

Not after they blew the time out. With only one remaining, the only way you ensure yourself four cracks at it are by throwing on that play. They just called a horrible play. You throw away from the masses, not into it. It could have been tipped into the air easily.

That's a good point.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The defensive PI is actually even clearer on this zoomed in footage:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/02/rus...darrell-bevell-super-bowl-xlix-malcolm-butler

That is the wrong angle to determine who did or didn't hit who first. There is an angle from upfield looking towards the goal line that shows very clearly the DB got to the ball first and the WR actually ran into him.