If The Fans and DFW Media Ran The Cowboys

[Yeagermeister]

Meh, you can say this about every fanbase in every sport played in every country.

I still don't understand why people get so worked up over a bunch of people that they will never meet.

Odd.

Or something that they can't change. It doesn't matter how upset I get the result isn't going to change. I vent, not here, then let it go.

 

[Americas_Team]

They would be lucky to field the same starting line up quarter to quarter.


Incompletion..........Your benched.

Drop.....................Your Benched.

2nd Drop...............Your Cut.

Missed Tackle.........Benched

Missed Sack.........Your Cut

False Start............You Cut

Craig

I don't know but all this sounds a lot like Jimmy Johnson...

 

[THUMPER]

Yah know, Hos, posts like this are so disengenuous and it kills me the condesention you use here and the circular logic.

I respect you, Hos. We go way back. But the implied message here is wrong.

Actually, I think you missed the entire point of his post which was to point out the pendulum swing by the media and fans after every game as well as the idiotic calls to bench, cut, trade, or fire anyone who doesn't live up to that particular writer/poster's expectations, without any thought to who specifically would replace said person.

I didn't get that Hos was taking a position one way or the other on any particular person but just the whole overreaction by the media and the fans.

I have been known to overreact at times myself. I called for Crayton to be taken off punt returns in pre-season and even suggested Ogletree should take his spot as 3rd WR. I never wanted Terrell Owens here in the first place so I called for his release almost daily. I wanted Mike Zimmer gone. I wanted Dave Campo gone and was upset when we brought him back. I wanted Bill Parcells gone, etc. In fact, I STILL want Jerry Jones gone, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon.

I realize that I am a bit of a reactionary at times and that is all Hos is pointing out, that we overreact after every game.

 

[Doomsay]

As long as individual fans are reasonably consistent in their opinions, the greater the diversity of their opinions and observations, the more interesting the message board IMO. This team has had a terrible record trying to close out seasons for more than a decade and interested fans have a variety of opinions concerning the causes of the failure. Clearly the management hasn't figured out how to fix it, I don't think it hurts for us to wonder why.

 

[chinch]

what a waste of keystrokes!

a total failure to comprehend the cowboys debacles since jerry & jimmah broke up.

+1 for the cupcake-like knee-jerk response, excuse making & transferral of blame... validating the compete buffoonery in valley ranch.

We would have a true football guy as the GM. Not sure who it would be, but he would be a true football guy. So all would be right in the world. Just accept that as fact and you avoid the headaches. It used to be we looked forward to Stephen Jones taking the helm. That went south today I guess. Anonymous True Football guy, we are looking for you. I hope you don't have a contract with some other team because that would be tampering.

I have no idea who the Head Coach would be. There doesn't seem to be a consensus. Suddenly once again Norv Turner seems to be the choice, even though I only remember dbair1967 liking that idea when we all thought it was Norv.

Ray Sherman would apparently be the OC. His first gig as OC was 1998 with the Steelers. They scored 263 points. That year the Vikings scored 556 points. In 1999 he took over as OC of the Vikings and that score dropped to 399 points. He's a great WRs coach, but I personally am not sold on him as an OC. But hey what do I know in comparison to the experts here?

I have no idea who the DC would be. The name most bandied about has been Dave Campo. Believe it or not. I can't speak for everyone, but this makes me sick to even think about it. Gte me my Nyquil, I feel the need to go numb just thinking about it.

Tony Romo turns the ball over too much so he would be gone. The most bandied about name is Brady Quinn, but that is really more by one person with a sickening man crush more than anything else. The next name that seemed to come up was Jeff Garcia. I guess he would be our QB and Ray Sherman would be expected to run a WCO for him. Interesting.

Terrell Owens and Matt Jones would be our starting WRs. Ogletree would be the 3rd guy and Danny Amendola the 4th guy. Or is that flip flopped? I've lost track. No team picked up Matt Jones all year long. Jerry is an idiot to leave that guy on the street and keep Miles Austin. Replace TO's production...pfft. Yeah right. Excuse me, was that out loud?

Jason Witten would have a reduced role because he can't get it done any more. Martellus Bennett would be traded to the Bengals. Not sure I disagree with that one since it was supposedly for a 1st round pick. I am a greedy ***** when it comes to draft picks. Can't deny what is true. I also can't deny the Offense suffered a little without Bennett in there against the Chargers. But you've got to look at the stats and only the stats to know his importance to the team. I gotta remember that.

Flozell Adams would be gone and Doug Free too, so I guess Pat McQuistan would be the LT. His twin brother Paul would have been picked up and Montrae Holland would be gone. Procter would be gone too, so I guess the other big red ugly would be our top backup at Guard. No one that I know of dislikes Columbo. It still sucks that he got hurt. I think there are a couple of fans who would have Gurode gone so I guess Duke Preston would be our Center.

Tashard Choice would be our top RB and Marion Barber would only get carries in the 4th quarter. Or maybe he would be our FB and Deon Anderson would be gone. I can't figure out what the fan consensus is on Felix Jones. He is either under used or over used. That much we do know. Apparently finding him the exact right number of carries is the football equivalent of the needle in the haystack.

Marcus Spears would be long gone by now so I guess Jason Hatcher would be starting. Maybe Stephen Bowen. Rest assured our DEs would do stuff that no other 3-4 DEs have ever done.

Bradie James never would have started and Keith Brooking never would have been signed. Instead Ray Lewis would be here at some kind of magical cap friendly deal that allowed us to keep Ware. Bobby Carpenter would definitely be gone so Jason Williams would be the primary backup at ILB and would be the cover LB in Nickel and Dime packages. Anthony Spencer would be gone and Victor Butler would be opposite Ware. Although lately I have read that Ware can't get it done.

Every CB we have would be neurotic from having heard that they are both "our best CB" and "can't play at all." Scandrick has gone from hero to zero. Jenkins never would have developed because he was gone last year after the Giants game. It is debatable whether or not Pacman would still be here.

Ken Hamlin would be long gone. I think. Recently it seems some can't wait for him to return.

Nick Folk would be gone and David Buehler would be the FG Kicker unless we took a look at Jason Elam, and all would be well in the world.

That is the formula for an undefeated season right there.

And you wonder why this emoticon is so good.

:madden:

 

[TheCount]

Dude, why start another thread that is just meant to start an argument? I thought this already played out in the Touch thread?

And I'm glad you all like the "This Ain't Madden" smilie I created! lol Might be my only contribution to this board of any substance.

 

[casmith07]

Dude, why start another thread that is just meant to start an argument? I thought this already played out in the Touch thread?

And I'm glad you all like the "This Ain't Madden" smilie I created! lol Might be my only contribution to this board of any substance.

I love that smiley. I used it exclusively for a few days when there were all of the off-season threads about "trade Barber for a 1st and 3rd, bring in Chris Jericho?"

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'd trust the fans running the team than the media, believe it or not.

Either way, we'd see income from the team drop dramatically because nobody in the media is going to market the team like Jerry can.

And they wouldn't know what to do since many people are not Cowboys fans, they are bashing Jerry Jones fans. So who would they blame. I'm frustrated as hell about the December woes, but I think only a fraction of the blame goes to Jerry.




YAKUZA

 

[TellerMorrow34]

It's kind of silly to make this notion when we could of had a guy like Chris Johnson or Stephen Jackson. Our scouting department has come up short more than it has hit on a lot of times. Marty B is a prime example of this and not trading him for a first round draft pick was simply idiotic. Some fans also wanted Desean Jackson, Steve Smith and various other players that are putting up ridic numbers also. So it's not oh X player is bust ahahhahh.

Honestly, though HoS I really want to here your honest opinion about what you would of done different. I mean you make this thread calling fans out that make wild post. Yet you don't really post your thoughts. I mean you campaigned hard for RW thus far he hasn't lived up to the trade hype. So instead of playing the role that you normally play of not getting into it. I want to hear you say what moves you would of made. How this team makes you feel. If Wade Phillips was your coach of choice. Things along that nature. If you don't want to post it on the board for whatever reason then by all means PM. I wouldn't mind having you drop some knowledge.

I can understand where you're coming from as I was a HUGE Steve Smith fan when he was coming out of USC. I was sick to my stomach when he got drafted by the Giants cause I had him pegged as a real good player. He's turned out to be exactly what I thought he could be.

I admit, fully, that I missed on DeSean Jackson cause I honestly didn't think he'd be able to take the beating at the NFL level. He has proved me entirely wrong. Great playmaker.

And I loved Chris Johnson (Till people convinced me he'd have a fumbling problem in the NFL and then I decided I liked the idea of Jones better) but heres the thing on Johnson that everyone, yourself and all the others who love him so much, seem to forget.

What Johnson is doing in Tennessee is because he's the primary, every down, back. He's the guy who carries the load. Even last year when he split time with White he still got the majority.

Here he'd be doing exactly what Felix is doing. Getting 5-8 touches a game, if he's lucky, and he wouldn't be putting up near the numbers here, that he is there, and then Felix would be there putting up bigger numbers cause he's the main guy and everyone would be *****ing and moaning that we passed on Felix for Johnson and what a stupid move it was.

The lack of big plays and chances for Felix has a whole heck of a lot to do with the fact that they don't give him the ball nearly enough.

You put Chris Johnson on this team, give him only 4-5 carries a game, with the defense keying on the fact that he's your most explosive player, and he's going to put up exactly what Felix is cause he's not getting enough chances to break plays wide open like he does in Tennessee.


I love Chris Johnson. He's turned out to be exactly what I thought he could be predraft, and even more since I was worried about him having a fumbling issue I allowed myself to be convinced he would have and he's having zero issues with that.

But he wouldn't be the Chris Johnson you see every week in Tennessee if he were here in Dallas.

 

[iceberg]

what a waste of keystrokes!

a total failure to comprehend the cowboys debacles since jerry & jimmah broke up.

+1 for the cupcake-like knee-jerk response, excuse making & transferral of blame... validating the compete buffoonery in valley ranch.

must be tough to be so ... binary.

1 or 0
on or off.

people in that mindset always seem to think that if you don't agree with them, then you can ONLY rest in the total polar opposite in thought.

agreeing differently is just lost on far too many people and your own failure to comprehend that will limit things to only what you can immediately see.

 

[birdwells1]

I can understand where you're coming from as I was a HUGE Steve Smith fan when he was coming out of USC. I was sick to my stomach when he got drafted by the Giants cause I had him pegged as a real good player. He's turned out to be exactly what I thought he could be.

I admit, fully, that I missed on DeSean Jackson cause I honestly didn't think he'd be able to take the beating at the NFL level. He has proved me entirely wrong. Great playmaker.

And I loved Chris Johnson (Till people convinced me he'd have a fumbling problem in the NFL and then I decided I liked the idea of Jones better) but heres the thing on Johnson that everyone, yourself and all the others who love him so much, seem to forget.

What Johnson is doing in Tennessee is because he's the primary, every down, back. He's the guy who carries the load. Even last year when he split time with White he still got the majority.

Here he'd be doing exactly what Felix is doing. Getting 5-8 touches a game, if he's lucky, and he wouldn't be putting up near the numbers here, that he is there, and then Felix would be there putting up bigger numbers cause he's the main guy and everyone would be *****ing and moaning that we passed on Felix for Johnson and what a stupid move it was.

The lack of big plays and chances for Felix has a whole heck of a lot to do with the fact that they don't give him the ball nearly enough.

You put Chris Johnson on this team, give him only 4-5 carries a game, with the defense keying on the fact that he's your most explosive player, and he's going to put up exactly what Felix is cause he's not getting enough chances to break plays wide open like he does in Tennessee.


I love Chris Johnson. He's turned out to be exactly what I thought he could be predraft, and even more since I was worried about him having a fumbling issue I allowed myself to be convinced he would have and he's having zero issues with that.

But he wouldn't be the Chris Johnson you see every week in Tennessee if he were here in Dallas.

In Garrett's defense, Felix Jones has to stay healthy and prove to the coaching staff that he is considerably better that the other 2 rbs. That's what Chris Johnson has done this year. Over the past 2 years Johnson has considerably more carries and less injuries than Jones.
RB to RB comparison Johnson>Jones and not just because of the opportunities but because of talent.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I can understand where you're coming from as I was a HUGE Steve Smith fan when he was coming out of USC. I was sick to my stomach when he got drafted by the Giants cause I had him pegged as a real good player. He's turned out to be exactly what I thought he could be.

I admit, fully, that I missed on DeSean Jackson cause I honestly didn't think he'd be able to take the beating at the NFL level. He has proved me entirely wrong. Great playmaker.

And I loved Chris Johnson (Till people convinced me he'd have a fumbling problem in the NFL and then I decided I liked the idea of Jones better) but heres the thing on Johnson that everyone, yourself and all the others who love him so much, seem to forget.

What Johnson is doing in Tennessee is because he's the primary, every down, back. He's the guy who carries the load. Even last year when he split time with White he still got the majority.

Here he'd be doing exactly what Felix is doing. Getting 5-8 touches a game, if he's lucky, and he wouldn't be putting up near the numbers here, that he is there, and then Felix would be there putting up bigger numbers cause he's the main guy and everyone would be *****ing and moaning that we passed on Felix for Johnson and what a stupid move it was.

The lack of big plays and chances for Felix has a whole heck of a lot to do with the fact that they don't give him the ball nearly enough.

You put Chris Johnson on this team, give him only 4-5 carries a game, with the defense keying on the fact that he's your most explosive player, and he's going to put up exactly what Felix is cause he's not getting enough chances to break plays wide open like he does in Tennessee.


I love Chris Johnson. He's turned out to be exactly what I thought he could be predraft, and even more since I was worried about him having a fumbling issue I allowed myself to be convinced he would have and he's having zero issues with that.

But he wouldn't be the Chris Johnson you see every week in Tennessee if he were here in Dallas.

So you think Felix jones is capable of putting up the numbers CJ is? That goes to show the ineptitude of our coaching to staff for a player of his caliber to be used in such a limited role. CJ won that job in Tennessee it wasn't handed to him. Once they got him in TC they knew he was legit.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I'd trust the fans running the team than the media, believe it or not.

Either way, we'd see income from the team drop dramatically because nobody in the media is going to market the team like Jerry can.

And they wouldn't know what to do since many people are not Cowboys fans, they are bashing Jerry Jones fans. So who would they blame. I'm frustrated as hell about the December woes, but I think only a fraction of the blame goes to Jerry.


YAKUZA

...as opposed to those who are not Cowboys fans but, rather, "bashing Tony Romo fans"?

 

[Vtwin]

(I did not read the entire thread)



Why?

What is the point of this thread?

It appears to be that you wish to call out everyone who has a different opinion then you but that surely can't be the case. Can it?

If the intended point is something that I am missing then please enlighten me.

If the point is as I perceived it then....

Why?

 

[Dodger]

If the intended point is something that I am missing then please enlighten me.

Read the thread. You'll find the answer.

 

[Dodger12]

...as opposed to those who are not Cowboys fans but, rather, "bashing Tony Romo fans"?

Ouch Scipio; that's gotta hurt. It's inetersting how some people point fingers at some perceived agenda but can't see there own.

 

[THUMPER]

must be tough to be so ... binary.

1 or 0
on or off.

people in that mindset always seem to think that if you don't agree with them, then you can ONLY rest in the total polar opposite in thought.

agreeing differently is just lost on far too many people and your own failure to comprehend that will limit things to only what you can immediately see.

Yep, it's that "all-or-nothing" mindset.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

(I did not read the entire thread)



Why?

What is the point of this thread?

To shine a ray of humor into the darkness of an otherwise abysmal December (in regards to football, at least).

Hos is an intelligent fellow. He understands that you can recognize a problem even if you don't necessarily know how to remedy it. Hos is merely parodying the somewhat fickle nature of fans on message boards.

 

[theebs]

If the fans in North Texas had any say in anything relating to any sports franchises in this town...they would all be in other cities.

Whiny, sell out, no heart, no faith and no backbone group of fans here.

the cowboys would be in LA had the fans of north texas had anything to do with them.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Actually Ogletree should get time at #3.. like SERIOUSLY!