I'm getting crucified over Phillips...

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iceberg;1377547 said:
he's likely to now say jones forced it on phillips cause he's not been HC in 6 years and will roll over for jones.

Jerry...you sure do assume alot.
 

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VA Cowboy;1377552 said:
If you want to believe Dat was Phillips decision then go ahead. Personally, I don't.

fine. but both are opinions. you present your OPINION as fact and build your hate around it. neither side as evidence of how it went down yet you insist jones is meddling and this is his call.

totally w/o evidence.

that's a hater, dude. pure and simple.
 

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VA Cowboy;1377552 said:
If you want to believe Dat was Phillips decision then go ahead. Personally, I don't.

Who was the HC last night? Phillips and as HC yes I do think he had a say in hiring of Dat. Like you said if you don't believe it that is your right to think what ever you want but I do think you’re reaching to try and slam Jones. I admit Jerry has made big mistakes in the past and I have heard Jerry own up to those mistakes and have seen him change in how things are done. Evidently that is not good enough for you
 

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VA Cowboy;1377557 said:
Jerry...you sure do assume alot.

comes from talking to the head "assumer" in you, VA. but when you won't directly answer questions, what else can i do?
 

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iceberg;1377546 said:
you've said it's wrong - those are your own words.

i've asked you to show examples of other teams who've done it YOUR WAY you're advocating now - and you can't.

you're the liar, holmes. and you're making crap up.

No Jerry, you're the one making up crap and ruining a perfectly good thread just because you can't accept the fact Jerry is taking a large role in assembling Wade's staff.
 

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VA Cowboy;1377567 said:

you say it's wrong for jones to keep staff on hand before the new coach gets there.

name 1 NFL team who's fired all coaches so the new coach can make all the hires.

it's simple, right? standard practice, right?

so go do it. 1 team. just one.
 

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iceberg;1377559 said:
totally w/o evidence.

that's a hater, dude. pure and simple.

How is it being a hater to believe that Jerry hired a LB coach?

You make zero sense...pure and simple.
 

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VA Cowboy;1377565 said:
No Jerry, you're the one making up crap and ruining a perfectly good thread just because you can't accept the fact Jerry is taking a large role in assembling Wade's staff.

not made up a thing dude - just refuted your opionions you dress up as facts. but as usual, you throw the "fire" elsewhere and hope no one sees your hate-dance.
 

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VA Cowboy;1377565 said:
No Jerry, you're the one making up crap and ruining a perfectly good thread just because you can't accept the fact Jerry is taking a large role in assembling Wade's staff.

Your the one making claims that he is doing all the hiring without 1 bit of evidence other than Garrett. Garrett was hired by Jones in large part because of a time restriction in which he would be allowed to talk with Garrett. As of yet we don't know what role Garrett will have. As for the coaches retained Dallas like other teams did retain a couple of coaches. Parcells retained 5 coaches when he hired in at Dallas. So when you say everyone else is making up stuff and Jerry is taking on hiring the staff that is a flat out lie no matter how you cut it.
 

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VA Cowboy;1377569 said:
How is it being a hater to believe that Jerry hired a LB coach?

You make zero sense...pure and simple.

cause it was after phillips was here - how is it logical to say phillips had ZERO INPUT into the hire?

hate will push that agenda. logic will say they likely talked it out.
 

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Lots of sexual tension in here.

The storm of the century's got everyone twitterpated.
 

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iceberg;1377568 said:
you say it's wrong for jones to keep staff on hand before the new coach gets there.

name 1 NFL team who's fired all coaches so the new coach can make all the hires.

it's simple, right? standard practice, right?

so go do it. 1 team. just one.

I say I prefer the new HC to assemble his staff. If he wants to retain certain coaches then it should be his decision. From all accounts, the decision to keep Bowles and Sparano were Jerry's. I've never said keeping them was wrong. I said I didn't want the GM making that call.

So it's totally irrelevant to show where a team fires all it's coaches. That's just a ploy for you to try and cloud the subject.

And yeah, I don't like Jerry being in an increased role based on previous experiences.
 

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iceberg;1377576 said:
cause it was after phillips was here - how is it logical to say phillips had ZERO INPUT into the hire?

hate will push that agenda. logic will say they likely talked it out.

There you go making up stuff again.

And why do you have a problem with Jerry hiring assistants?
 

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iceberg;1377571 said:
not made up a thing dude - just refuted your opionions you dress up as facts. but as usual, you throw the "fire" elsewhere and hope no one sees your hate-dance.

You've assumed and made up a lot of things.

Again, why are you making such a big deal over the fact Jerry is heavily involved with assembling the coaching staff?
 

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VA Cowboy;1377592 said:
You've assumed and made up a lot of things.

Again, why are you making such a big deal over the fact Jerry is heavily involved with assembling the coaching staff?

Why are you? And it is not a fact that Jerry is heavily involved with putting together the staff that is your claim but not fact.
 

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VA Cowboy;1377583 said:
I say I prefer the new HC to assemble his staff. If he wants to retain certain coaches then it should be his decision. From all accounts, the decision to keep Bowles and Sparano were Jerry's. I've never said keeping them was wrong. I said I didn't want the GM making that call.

So it's totally irrelevant to show where a team fires all it's coaches. That's just a ploy for you to try and cloud the subject.

And yeah, I don't like Jerry being in an increased role based on previous experiences.

but you can't say it's an increased role till you show "normal owner behavior" and you've yet to do that.

you've said time and again it was wrong for jones to keep sprano and bowles, now you're backing up some and saying phillips should make that call.

do you know he has or hasn't?

no.

but look at you go boy...look at you go!
 

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VA Cowboy;1377592 said:
You've assumed and made up a lot of things.

Again, why are you making such a big deal over the fact Jerry is heavily involved with assembling the coaching staff?

what have i made up?
 

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iceberg;1377596 said:
but you can't say it's an increased role till you show "normal owner behavior" and you've yet to do that.

Not just normal owner ..... but normal GM behavior .....

thats what GM's do .... help their coaches build the team .....

but with Jerry its meddling :rolleyes:
 
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