Is it Brock Purdy or the culture?

slick325

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The distinct difference between the 9ers organization (name any of the well run organizations in the League over the last 27 years) and the Dallas organization is who is the face if the organization. Who sets the culture?

In every other organization it is the head coach who is the face of the organization. The dominant voice of the organization. The culture setter. Andy Reid in KC. Shanahan in San Fran. Siriani in Philly. The Hoodie in New England. Tomlin in Pittsburgh. Harbaugh in Baltimore. They all obviously have good GMs that acquire talent in consultation with the HC, but the culture and tone of the team, the authority base for players is the HC.

We all know that is not true in Dallas. The ownership style is unique and not a successful one IMO. The way Jerry and Stephen overshadow their coach and team is tough to overcome and tough to handle. Interestingly, McCarthy seems to be the best to handle it since Parcells and Chan Gailey. The owner/GM and his VP son need to be less seen and even less heard outside of the building. Period. John Lynch a HOF player with rings of his own isn't as attention seeking and overshadowing as an 80yr old and his son who are playing fantasy football as football men since 1989.

Head coaches and players have come and gone. Yet Dallas has the same results. In any other organization a GM who continously hires the wrong HC and drafts/acquires the wrong players would have been replaced. Blaming everyone else but yourself and lack of accountability permeates the organization. It starts with Jerry and Stephen Jones who blame the HC or blame the players but don't take blame for picking those same individuals. Insanity in its purist form.
 

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Anything to diminish Purdy and his performance.
Both can be true. Y'all need to practice this. You can have more than one comment be true. More than one opinion can be true. 49ers can be stacked and Purdy can be good. Damn....why do y'all act as if that's so hard? Are y'all that committed to being anti-Dak/Cowboys?
 

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SF was built on some good seasons and a lot of bad ones. They got Bosa super high when they had a bad one. They also got Trent Williams after the skins threw him away. Shanny is a offensive savant and his system, which use to be just for ordinary RB’s would thrive, is now working for QB’s as well. But make no mistake, Purdy has talent. But he wouldn’t be doing that just anywhere. The system helps a lot.
 

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Its called roster building. Trading picks for a known asset can and has worked for several teams. Trading for amari worked, trading him away was a complete failure. The cowboys have proven to be capable of building a good roster but not great. They limit themselves by only signing the guys they drafted to big contracts. Often times these guys are way over valued and paid. Untill they learn to use all available avenues to aquire talent they will continue to build and revamp good but not great teams.
 

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I'm not going to argue against what the 9ers have built, but I do think it's ironic the last time they WON a superbowl was 1995.

No one talks about that while heaping praise on their accomplishments.
True, but they've been to an SB and a couple of NFC Championships since. What have we done?
 
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Its called roster building. Trading picks for a known asset can and has worked for several teams. Trading for amari worked, trading him away was a complete failure. The cowboys have proven to be capable of building a good roster but not great. They limit themselves by only signing the guys they drafted to big contracts. Often times these guys are way over valued and paid. Untill they learn to use all available avenues to aquire talent they will continue to build and revamp good but not great teams.
I agree but I would've never in a million years traded for McCaffery. I don't advise teams to do that.....but they are stacked elsewhere so I guess they could afford to.
 

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True, but they've been to an SB and a couple of NFC Championships since. What have we done?
Let's be honest....had the Cowboys been to a couple of NFC championships that wouldn't have made it any better lol. It would still be considered 27 years of misery lol.
 
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Absolutely, go follow Amari as well. Jerry made the right decision for the reasons previously stated, plus Amari refused to take a pay cut. Has Jerry failed in replacing Amari? Absolutely, and it has hurt the team, but Jerry had his reasons for not keeping Amari any longer.
I think you're wrong there. I believe Amari was open to changing his salary. Jerry just wanted him gone.
 

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:lmao:

This overly negative thread has been fun so far.

It’s like we’re Chargers fans this morning.
Yeah now that....that would be too much for me to handle. 27 point lead in a playoff game....i'd have to log off for awhile.
 

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I think you're wrong there. I believe Amari was open to changing his salary. Jerry just wanted him gone.
I don't think it ever came out why they wanted Amari gone. I think it was bigger than salary. It was also telling that very few teams wanted to offer more than a 5th. Cardinals gave a 1st for Hollywood Brown but wouldn't do a 5th for Amari?
 

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Let's be honest....had the Cowboys been to a couple of NFC championships that wouldn't have made it any better lol. It would still be considered 27 years of misery lol.
It would allow you to argue the case that the Jones's had a clue about building a Championship team, but the last 27 years prove otherwise.
 

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Seahawks(x2), Cardinals, Raiders, Commanders? Huh? These are good teams to you? I'm so confused. So the Commanders are good because they "curbstomped" our starters? Huh?
I said they played 4 games against playoff teams and 1 against the team that just made our QB look like Mr. Irrelevant. I didn't say anything else, you added that. I'm sorry if this bothers you, but I know why it does. Bothers me too.
 

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It would allow you to argue the case that the Jones's had a clue about building a Championship team, but the last 27 years prove otherwise.
How so. Jerry is gauged on championships. Not NFC championships but actual championships. I don't know its pure hypothetical so I can't say for certain but if this team won a SB this year I don't think anyone would say its because Jerry knew how to built a winner....they'd say we won in spite of him and they'd probably be right. Hell i'd argue if you want to make the playoffs this is not the way you do it. They have back to back 12 win seasons.....but they have not done it the proven way IMO.
 

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I don't think it ever came out why they wanted Amari gone. I think it was bigger than salary. It was also telling that very few teams wanted to offer more than a 5th. Cardinals gave a 1st for Hollywood Brown but wouldn't do a 5th for Amari?
I think you're buying into the Jones's narrative. Jerry isn't the trade guru many would like to believe.
 

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I would say both. Coaching staff has done a great job with the play calling and you have to give the kid credit for making the reads as well as being accurate with his throws.
 

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Haha nice try.......

When Dak won his first playoff win he was on a 4 Year 2.7 million dollar deal. Come on USArmyVet let's put things in perspective here. Let's don't be lazy.
Correct, so Dak has 1 playoff appearance since his 1 playoff win back in 2018.....so it's even better Jerry & Co. gave a 4-year $160M contract to that kind of results.
 
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