Is it the coaching or the roster?

[Gameover]

The QB is the problem.

 

[Clove]

The 49ers and chiefs took pretty much the same roster as the previous year and simply inserted a good HC and look what happened. They started playing up to their potential. They're contenders now.

How is that not a repeatable process?

my theory still stands today. You win with great head coaching and great quarterback play.

 

[Galian Beast]

this is a prime example of what I'm talking about. You know these players went on to other teams right? And they sucked there too? Maybe it wasn't a misuse of Jones and Barber, maybe they were just crappy players.

Most of the players you are talking about were no longer in their prime.

They had bulked up Felix Jones to try to make him an every down back. Terrell Owens was at the end of his career, and he still put up legit numbers in buffalo. Martellus Bennett has gone on to become quite a legitimate tight end in this league.

 

[khiladi]

So you are then saying Felix was an "All Time Back"?

Humor me, could the reason the running game sucked have anything to do with the quality of running back and the OL? Or were all the amazing stars - WHICH CANT MAKE IT ON ANY ROSTER IN THE NFL - perhaps a tad over hyped?

What part of Garrett wanted Felix Jones do you not understand? Wade wanted to draft Chris Johnson over him, if they were picking RB... The point being, offensive picks were catered towards JGs coaching..

 

[khiladi]

The fact that your trying to put Sean Lee's development on JG is just comical....

 

[perrykemp]

my theory still stands today. You win with great head coaching and great quarterback play.

I'd take it a step further:

Winning teams have at least 2 out of 3 of the following:

Great GM
Great Coach
Great QB

Great Teams that are consistently good for extended amount of time have 3 out of 3.

 

[Alexander]

The fact that your trying to put Sean Lee's development on JG is just comical....

The fact that Wade Phillips failed to develop Dez Bryant is equally funny.

 

[cml750]

I lay all the blame on Garrett. He seems unable to motivate players and is the worst game / clock manager in the league by a long shot. We always seem to play like we are trying not to lose instead of playing to win which falls on Garrett too. He is a bad coach no matter how you slice it. The worst part of it is we are wasting Romo's prime years on this clown.

 

[Alexander]

Most of the players you are talking about were no longer in their prime.

They had bulked up Felix Jones to try to make him an every down back. Terrell Owens was at the end of his career, and he still put up legit numbers in buffalo. Martellus Bennett has gone on to become quite a legitimate tight end in this league.

Barber used up his short shelf life in a year.

Felix Jones, bottom line, was an accessory in college and had no business being selected in the first round. The priority assigned to a complimentary back in that draft was all on Garrett.

Bennett is another case of this franchise thinking that the roster is "set" and trying to be tricky with draft choices.

No team, I do not care who you are, can say every starter is so good that you would not draft a replacement.

We did, and have done that, repeatedly, and on offense, in Garrett's tenure.

 

[junk]

I spend a lot of time reviewing the game from both the broadcast and the coaches film.

I really believe the problems are play calling on offense and the players on defense.

IMO, the offensive players are good enough, but defenses are guessing correctly on run/pass based on things like shotgun/no-shotgun.

On defense, they are overachieving their talent.

I agree with this.

Take a guy like Mike McCoy who has a decent offense in SD with a lot less talent than Dallas.

I just don't think the offense in Dallas is all that creative. I don't think they have any real idea how to creatively use guys like Escobar, Harris or even Dez to a certain extent.

 

[Matts4313]

The fact that your trying to put Sean Lee's development on JG is just comical....

he started 0 games under Phillips... In fact, I don't even think he took part of the camp, did he? I can't believe your giving credit to Phillips.

I mean, if anything you can say Rob Ryan, but that still happened under the current HC.

 

[Matts4313]

I agree with this.

Take a guy like Mike McCoy who has a decent offense in SD with a lot less talent than Dallas.

I just don't think the offense in Dallas is all that creative. I don't think they have any real idea how to creatively use guys like Escobar, Harris or even Dez to a certain extent.

agreed. And not only are we often not creative, but all the WR routes are short to intermediate. But that's a calahan WCO

 

[junk]

agreed. And not only are we often not creative, but all the WR routes are short to intermediate. But that's a calahan WCO

Wait, I thought this was still Garrett's offense, but Callahan was just running it?

Or is it Garrett's offense until it doesn't work then it is Callahan's?

 

[khiladi]

he started 0 games under Phillips... In fact, I don't even think he took part of the camp, did he? I can't believe your giving credit to Phillips.

I mean, if anything you can say Rob Ryan, but that still happened under the current HC.

He started 0 games, but he practiced a year underneath him to develop right? he also was partly played by injuries right, which limited his ability to play right?

 

[khiladi]

agreed. And not only are we often not creative, but all the WR routes are short to intermediate. But that's a calahan WCO

All our routes are short to intermediate and we are running a WCO? Man, let the jokes keep flowing...

 

[Matts4313]

He started 0 games, but he practiced a year underneath him to develop right? he also was partly played by injuries right, which limited his ability to play right?

practiced a year? I'm not looking it up, but wasn't lee coming off a knee injury? I don't think he played/practiced but maybe a few weeks under Phillips.

for some reason I have it in my mind that he didn't start suiting up until like game 4-5... Phillips was gone game 8.

 

[dupree89]

JG is instilling his philosophy the rebuilding process while learning his job, those three things makes very challenging task, on top of that he has to deal with meddling owner. I still think JG has lot to learn and can be a better HC, which I believe he will with some more seasoning. .

And thats reason # 1 why he should not be head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. This isnt Jacksonville, San Diego, Buffalo, Cincy, Tampa. This is the Dallas Cowboys franchise we're talking about. No way should someone with zero head coaching experience ever be named head coach of this team.

I am so sick of hearing...give Jason time...let him grow...let him evolve...he is gaining experience.
Is this really what the Cowboys have been reduced to? A place for a head coach to gain experience and learn?

You cant make this stuff up.

 

[khiladi]

A year as in season.. 2010 season.. his first year and he actually played eventually and nabbed 2 INTs, one for a TD.. He was already a talent.. Then came Rob Ryan's scheme and he was a talent there. And so on.. Wade drafted a TALENT.. It was his eye that spotted him...

 

[Matts4313]

All our routes are short to intermediate and we are running a WCO? Man, let the jokes keep flowing...

callahan is a WCO guy. up until the denver game, we were running about 50% of the deep routes from the year before. I havent looked it up sense then, but our new play caller doesn't throw it deep near as much.

that's a joke? Cause it was fact, at least to start the season.

 

[khiladi]

callahan is a WCO guy. up until the denver game, we were running about 50% of the deep routes from the year before. I havent looked it up sense then, but our new play caller doesn't throw it deep near as much.

that's a joke? Cause it was fact, at least to start the season.

Please inform me where you got such absurd stats, besides the deep ball has no bearing on whether something is West Coast or not. The WC employs a lot of short, quick passes, motion and slants. Callahan is a WC guy running Garrett's playbook. We aren't running a WCO.. And the Air Coryell offense is known for deep vertical passing..