Is it time to declare Claiborne a bust?

[big dog cowboy]

Mo gets the benefit of the doubt from Cowboy fans due to him being a Cowboy.

Mo gets the benefit of the doubt from Cowboy fans due to the circumstances the last 2 years.

Otherwise fans (including me) would be all over him.

 

[Rockport]

he is not asked to build a rocket ship. deion sanders didn't have a great wonderlic score neither.

and btw, mike mamula scored a 49 on his wonderlic...remember how that worked out!!!

frank gore scored a 6,

Deion never sucked wind like Claiborne has.

 

[Rockport]

Claiborne is not a bust, yeah.

So far he has been. You cannot deny that.

 

[Rockport]

Not yet, cb is a hard position to adjust to at the nfl level and few players come in and are immediately top flight corners. This will be a big year for him development wise though.

Yea, but instead of getting better his second year, he regressed to horrible status.

 

[jnday]

Deion never sucked wind like Claiborne has.

I can't think of a shut down CB that has started their career by playing so poorly. He is looking like an average career may be all that can be expected of him.

 

[Fredd]

I can use Brandon Graham or several more young players that are labeled as bust if it helps you understand the point. Mo gets the benefit of the doubt from Cowboy fans due to him being a Cowboy.

to your point on Dion Jordan, I would love to see him with the star...I just wouldn't give up what they want...I think Marinelli could get something VERY useful out of this guy

 

[Kevinicus]

Yea, but instead of getting better his second year, he regressed to horrible status.

You are just making things up. You can't point to his play to support your opinion.

 

[Rockport]

You are just making things up. You can't point to his play to support your opinion.

Sure I can. I watched every game last year and saw him repeatedly get toasted playing CB on the 3rd worst NFL defense of all time.

 

[Bizwah]

Sigh....unbelievable how we have threads like this every year. If Playersoandso isn't an all-star as a rookie, then they must be a bust. How many players have we seen turn it on after a couple of seasons? I can remember people saying the same thing about Lee and Murray.

Parcells and Landry always had a three year rule. Why can't we at least wait that long?

 

[Kevinicus]

Sure I can. I watched every game last year and saw him repeatedly get toasted playing CB on the 3rd worst NFL defense of all time.

When did you see it? Please give examples. Specifically from the 2nd half of the Denver game on. I'll keep waiting, just like I have been for months for someone to actually provide evidence of this suckage they keep complaining about.

 

[Rockport]

When did you see it? Please give examples. Specifically from the 2nd half of the Denver game on. I'll keep waiting, just like I have been for months for someone to actually provide evidence of this suckage they keep complaining about.

Just isolate on him in any game. It's quite obvious if you know what you're looking at.

 

[justbob]

Enough with the shots at each other and negative post after negative post..

 

[Seven]

I can use Brandon Graham or several more young players that are labeled as bust if it helps you understand the point. Mo gets the benefit of the doubt from Cowboy fans due to him being a Cowboy.

I'm refering to your " My opinions are not tied to emotions for my favorite team." statement.


You wear this team and some of it's athletes on your sleeve. No biggie tho, most do.


I think Mo needs another year myself, but he won't ever tout his draft position, IMO. Tackling alone excludes him from that.

 

[CyberB0b]

Parcells and Landry always had a three year rule. Why can't we at least wait that long?

Because it's a different era. Rookies are expected to perform, especially top 10 guys. High schools have pro class facilities now. They run complex schemes in high school now. That, combined with the price of free agents relative to first contract rookies, it makes it imperative to get production. The average NFL career is less than 3 years now.

Also, the free agency era and salary cap means you can't park a guy for 5 years like Landry could. There are multiple reasons why you shouldn't have to wait 3 years to get production. It's not a magic number.

 

[Kevinicus]

Just isolate on him in any game. It's quite obvious if you know what you're looking at.

Of course, the usual lack of evidence response. The thing that amazes me is the sucking was so bad, that the other teams didn't isolate him too.

 

[Corso]

Of course, the usual lack of evidence response. The thing that amazes me is the sucking was so bad, that the other teams didn't isolate him too.

You're putting old boy on the spot.
I like that.
You're right- his response was definitely on the weak side of the sauce.

I expect him to come back with the big guns now...
Let's sit back and watch!

 

[Rockport]

Of course, the usual lack of evidence response. The thing that amazes me is the sucking was so bad, that the other teams didn't isolate him too.

I can't believe anyone can actually defend his play of last year. He was awful.

He's had 2 int's and 1 fumble recovery in 2 years. Pro Football Focus ranked him 90th among 110 qualifying corners. He was beaten for an average of 16.6 yards per catch, which was the seventh-highest rate in the NFL. He gave up seven catches on eight targets in Week 4 against San Diego and six on seven three weeks later in Philadelphia. Riley Cooper abused him badly in that game. In that game, he gave up 3 4th quarter completions for first downs facing 3rd string QB Barkley.

 

[tm1119]

He's got until about week 6 to prove something to me or, yeah, he's a bust. We are talking about the 6th overall pick here, not some mid 1st round pick who only had mild expectations coming into the league. The 6th overall pick shouldn't need 3 years to develop no matter what anybody here has to say.

 

[Idgit]

So far he has been. You cannot deny that.

I do deny it.

So far, he's been a disappointment, but that's not the same thing, at all.

 

[Rockport]

I do deny it.

So far, he's been a disappointment, but that's not the same thing, at all.

Semantics.