CFZ Is Micah really worth a record breaking deal?

[ghst187]

To this owner? Absolutely

To a guy like Belichick, not so much. He has traded his best D player before a bank breaking deal had to be made. And he's done that several times.

He had Brady to bail him out all the time too. Plus Brady played on less than market deals. We can’t pay Dak market and Micah biggest deal in history

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I am sure that when Micah points out he has been top 3 in DPoY that the above will surely be an ace card of an argument.

At this point I am really only interested in what mountain you are claiming.

Because of sacks.

TJ Watt won DPOY. Why?

 

[CCBoy]

He had Brady to bail him out all the time too. Plus Brady played on less than market deals. We can’t pay Dak market and Micah biggest deal in history

All Jerry has to say in negotiations is: hey, you want a Lombardi or more money?

 

[Bobhaze]

This is my exact view and it extends to how we handle Diggs, also.

Lamb is the only guy I feel 100% confident should be a Cowboy for life. His ability is conducive to longevity, whereas Parsons gifts may diminish under the heavy workload. And while I have not mined data to back this point up, most cornerbacks don't have an extended period of greatness either.

So if we're not all-in on Prescott, don't sign them. Trade them and jump-start the rebuild. And if we are all-in on Dak, where's the sense of urgency?

How long has it been since we saw a “sense of urgency” from the Jones boys?

 

[CCBoy]

How long has it been since we saw a “sense of urgency” from the Jones boys?

The team already began their after-action analysis the day following the 2022 season. If Jerry needs motivation, this fan will just let him buy the beer.

 

[Nova]

How long has it been since we saw a “sense of urgency” from the Jones boys?

Probably the Blockchain partnership announcement

 

[Praxit]

going to be tough moving forward. He's a very good player. Not great yet.

To be honest, I dont think he's in Donald's zone yet. But with time will see.

There's games where he's been almost non existent. Probably wore out, as it looks that way towards late in game.

He's going to command LOTS OF CASH>>>> when the time comes. Will be a tuffy.

 

[CouchCoach]

Ya know, call me nuts but I have never been about the player, always the team. That's why I caught heat for suggesting they explore the trade value of Romo and Ware but I do not care about the player at all, it is the ultimate team sport to me.

Some think it's crazy thinking about trading the best player but what about the other side of that, what do they get in return?

Still all comes down to how married are they to Prescott and do they think he can deliver at 50M with an edge rusher at 30M? Then how about the WR, OL, CB and before you know it, 50% of the cap is wrapped up in 5 players.

To me, it still all starts with whether they're going to extend the QB, and it will take 50M, or are they better off trading their best player and trying a new stud QB. They could have a shot at Williams or Maye in this upcoming draft. May be a moot point because they may wrap Prescott up before this season kicks off and then they're pretty much down that road for 4-5 years.

 

[Adreme]

If Parsons only demanded $5M/yr., and could only be traded for a 6th round pick, no reasonable person would trade him.

If Parsons demanded $35M/yr., and would fetch 3 x #1 draft picks, and 3 x #2 draft picks, no reasonable person would keep him.

The ONLY debate is where the line is drawn between those two extremes.
This is not a "yes or no" question.

It's a given that Parsons is a game changing player of exceptional abilities!

I do not think any player in the NFL could fetch 3 1s and 3 2s outside of the QB position and they would have to be a debatable top 5 QB. This is not 1990, these picks are seen are far more valuable in a salary cap era with price control for rookies.

If they were to trade after year 4 it would be probably 2 1s a 2 and maybe a 3rd in the 2nd year. At that point the Cowboys are almost certainly a worse football team overall in just that context though I guess if they could find another t1 player to sign instead it could be a wash (assuming they hit on the picks because they will almost certainly be late 1st round picks). That is a lot of ifs though instead of signing a player that nobody in the NFL would not have in their top 5 list of defensive players right now and all would have in their top 2-3 of players over the next 5 years on defense.

 

[plasticman]

Micah Parsons isn't just the best defender for the Cowboys. He isn't just the best current defender in the NFL. You might never see another like him in your lifetime. He is truly "generational".

A linebacker with the power of an EDGE and the speed of a cornerback? A player that lives to hit? He will be the center piece of this defense for the next ten years. You don't just hand this guy off to another team.

 

[Clove]

Dude is a terrific player. Let's not complicate life.

 

[CCBoy]

Ya know, call me nuts but I have never been about the player, always the team. That's why I caught heat for suggesting they explore the trade value of Romo and Ware but I do not care about the player at all, it is the ultimate team sport to me.

Some think it's crazy thinking about trading the best player but what about the other side of that, what do they get in return?

Still all comes down to how married are they to Prescott and do they think he can deliver at 50M with an edge rusher at 30M? Then how about the WR, OL, CB and before you know it, 50% of the cap is wrapped up in 5 players.

To me, it still all starts with whether they're going to extend the QB, and it will take 50M, or are they better off trading their best player and trying a new stud QB. They could have a shot at Williams or Maye in this upcoming draft. May be a moot point because they may wrap Prescott up before this season kicks off and then they're pretty much down that road for 4-5 years.

The finances and cap revenues will non-stop improve significantly for the next five years.

Prescott is young enough to be very effective for the next five years.

Market wise, now is the time to support the choices they have already made concerning team directions.

There are a very strong base of young talent, and around the real teams really competing top shelf right now, Dallas is the second youngest.

Now, manage the talent around the QB and not to excite the bookkeepers keeping tabs of available, not cap, funds!!

 

[CCBoy]

Micah Parsons isn't just the best defender for the Cowboys. He isn't just the best current defender in the NFL. You might never see another like him in your lifetime. He is truly "generational".

A linebacker with the power of an EDGE and the speed of a cornerback? A player that lives to hit? He will be the center piece of this defense for the next ten years. You don't just hand this guy off to another team.

That and this scheme is built around the very skills of Parsons, from the start.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No low grade trolling going on here.

Makes you feel good, huh?

Going for the tit for tat thing only goes to underscore my point. Perhaps some more maturity smack. Just get ahead of that one too.

Your act is hackneyed.

 

[Vtwin]

Going for the tit for tat thing only goes to underscore my point. Perhaps some more maturity smack. Just get ahead of that one too.

Your act is hackneyed.

Yet you employ the same "act".

Did you major in passive aggression with a minor in hypocrisy?

Sorry everyone. I won't muck up this legitimate thread anymore.

 

[DandyDon52]

I swear some of you would have traded away Roger Staubach and Bob Lilly if you thought they were going to get paid too much.

That is non sequitur . Different era, no FA, very rare trades happened at all, and all the players got mickey mouse paychecks.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Micah Parsons isn't just the best defender for the Cowboys. He isn't just the best current defender in the NFL. You might never see another like him in your lifetime. He is truly "generational".

A linebacker with the power of an EDGE and the speed of a cornerback? A player that lives to hit? He will be the center piece of this defense for the next ten years. You don't just hand this guy off to another team.

What's scary is even with all his tangible talent, his intangibles and leadership get overlooked a bit. He reminds me of Ray Lewis in that sense. As someone mentioned on Twitter, imagine Vonn Miller and Ray Lewis in one package.

 

[CCBoy]

Going for the tit for tat thing only goes to underscore my point. Perhaps some more maturity smack. Just get ahead of that one too.

Your act is hackneyed.

I have a good wooden made fishing hook you can borrow...

 

[Chuck 54]

The only way I would trade Parsons is if the team with the number 1 pick next year has a young franchise QB. Then I’d trade him and draft Caleb Williams.

 

[DandyDon52]

I would not trade parsons yet, but him being wore out at end of season, and not being a factor in playoff games, has to do with how he is used.

So to me it is how dallas coaches utilize him , and how effective they use him, and how they arrange to keep him fresh for playoffs?

Would not it be better to only use him in important big games 1st 10-12 games??

For example do they really need parsons to beat the lesser teams on the schedule?? Make him take the game off, or only play on 3rd and longs.

Otherwise he will be beat up tired and not very good in playoffs.

Also they do need to move him around more when rushing qb, and dont have him taking on the top tackles.

but will the cowboys do any of that?? No I doubt it, and he will be wore out by game 17.