Is there anybody who is missing Parcells as Our Head Coach Right now?

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Thank you Bill Parcells for being better than Dave Campo and taking this talentless team and rebuilding it. Apparently some don't think I am grateful enough to you for this. I don't know how they can think that way given the fact that I continually say that I give Jerry credit for hiring you on my wife's birthday and me thinking I got the better present than she did. I don't know why given the fact that I began defending Jerry Jones for a turn in the organization that day.

I thank you Bill Parcells from the bottom of my heart for being better than Dave Campo, for making Jerry realize that football guys are of infinite value and teaching him better ways to do his job. No one is more appreciative of you for that Bill Parcells.

But Bill, don't expect me to cut you any slack for the overall record you had while here, for failing to win in the post season, and above all for walking out on this team you claim over one busted play. Bill, don't expect me to respect that, admire that, or in any way condone that. I consider those things contemptuous and I don't respect them. I don't miss you Bill. I never will. You simply did not do a good enough job here and I can't believe you could walk away satisfied with the job you did.

Yes Bill, I would tell you this to your face. I do not bow to a coward nor curb my tongue.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. May the good man above smile upon you for the rest of your days. Goodbye.
 

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jobberone;2592279 said:
Pretty much how I feel. I think he's too conservative but.....

Do you think we would have lost the Philly game 44-6 with Parcells as coach?
The score doesn't matter to me. Would we have lost the game period? Yes. He lost every last game of every season he was here. His teams under performed every December he was here.

44-6 doesn't hurt me more than 44-43 would have or 17-16 would have. It is still a loss and he was not capable of delivering and walked away before he could deliver.
 

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jobberone;2592279 said:
Pretty much how I feel. I think he's too conservative but.....

Do you think we would have lost the Philly game 44-6 with Parcells as coach?

Nope. But we would have lost.

He simply wasnt the same coach as he was in all his prior stops. He certainly wasn't the same guy I saw in NY. He might have been gruff...and tough...but he had fun in those years. He was animated. With the Cowboys, he had run out of steam. He looked miserable. And so did the team.

But clearly, he knows football and his influence on the organization would be welcomed...just not as a head coach IMO.
 

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No... While I think Wade is too lax at times, I do agree with Wade about one thing: These are grown men and they shouldn't have to be looked after like little children. It's ok for peewee football, it's ok for HS football and it's sometimes ok for college. But for the $$ these guys are making, little things like giving a darn and working hard should *just* happen, not be the result of a tough disiplinarian
 

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Hostile;2592280 said:
Thank you Bill Parcells for being better than Dave Campo and taking this talentless team and rebuilding it. Apparently some don't think I am grateful enough to you for this. I don't know how they can think that way given the fact that I continually say that I give Jerry credit for hiring you on my wife's birthday and me thinking I got the better present than she did. I don't know why given the fact that I began defending Jerry Jones for a turn in the organization that day.

I thank you Bill Parcells from the bottom of my heart for being better than Dave Campo, for making Jerry realize that football guys are of infinite value and teaching him better ways to do his job. No one is more appreciative of you for that Bill Parcells.

But Bill, don't expect me to cut you any slack for the overall record you had while here, for failing to win in the post season, and above all for walking out on this team you claim over one busted play. Bill, don't expect me to respect that, admire that, or in any way condone that. I consider those things contemptous and I don't respect them. I don't miss you Bill. I never will. You simply did not do a good enough job here and I can't believe you could walk away satisfied with the job you did.

Yes Bill, I would tell you this to your face. I do nto bow to a coward nor curb my tongue.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. May the good man above smile upon you for the rest of your days. Goodbye.


Ya know, in another 10-15 years, I could get to like you. ;) :D
 

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Hostile;2592287 said:
The score doesn't matter to me. Would we have lost the game period? Yes. He lost every last game of every season he was here. His teams under performed every December he was here.

44-6 doesn't hurt me more than 44-43 would have or 17-16 would have. It is still a loss and he was not capable of delivering and walked away before he could deliver.

I don't think anyone can say. How would this team have done with Parcells at the helm for the last two years? Impossible to say.

But I'll bet you a large sum of money that the team would not have quit on Parcells. Or Jimmy Johnson. Or Tom Landry. And they quit on top of playing poorly and not protecting the football. And they tackled poorly. Those are things good football teams don't do.

The way they lost that game was damning to me. And embarrassing. And it will surely erode the confidence and swagger around here. Not to all. But definitely to some.

There's a huge difference in losing that pathetically and getting beat.

Perhaps it will bring needed change and something good will come from it. That's the best I can say about it.
 

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Classic Parcells.

Telling his team to be ready for a possible onside kick on the opening kickoff against the Eagles in his first season. We were ready, and ran the onside kick back for a TD. I knew then we were a different team.

Can you ever see that from this team?
 

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Juke99;2592292 said:
Nope. But we would have lost.

He simply wasnt the same coach as he was in all his prior stops. He certainly wasn't the same guy I saw in NY. He might have been gruff...and tough...but he had fun in those years. He was animated. With the Cowboys, he had run out of steam. He looked miserable. And so did the team.

But clearly, he knows football and his influence on the organization would be welcomed...just not as a head coach IMO.

As ususal we agree. The media brownout. The scouting. The overall infrastructure. And his influence. With someone like that running around you can't screw around nearly as much. Too conservative. Heck Wade's too conservative on D. Now Garrett could learn a thing or two.
 

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Hostile;2592287 said:
The score doesn't matter to me. Would we have lost the game period? Yes. He lost every last game of every season he was here. His teams under performed every December he was here.

44-6 doesn't hurt me more than 44-43 would have or 17-16 would have. It is still a loss and he was not capable of delivering and walked away before he could deliver.
so has Wade. these players don't care and part of the reason is cause of the way the owner and gm you rave about treats them.
 

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I'm an admitted Parcells Homer(tm) but I will say this in fairness.

Parcells drafted and signed most of these knuckleheads (although I still don't believe he wanted the King Knucklehead). And they were a dumb team when he had them. Perhaps more disciplined, definitely more technically sound - they tackled what they got to - but still penalty prone and after losing Woody it was like we never had any sort of leadership or brains on the defensive side of the ball at all. We still look confused back there before every play and other teams have commented on it. And I do think we had some good coaches considering how well they have done other places.

That said, about the worst thing Jerry could have done with these guys is give them Wade - complete and total freedom to be morons without repercussion. Now they are a dumb team who also don't practice, are fundamentally soft and care more about getting their mug on tv than winning football games. Perfect storm of immaturity and enablement.

Heck, even Campo's team could line up correctly, play hard and make a tackle.
 

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Hostile;2592301 said:
I got charms.
I love those.
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wileedog;2592334 said:
I'm an admitted Parcells Homer(tm) but I will say this in fairness.

Parcells drafted and signed most of these knuckleheads (although I still don't believe he wanted the King Knucklehead). And they were a dumb team when he had them. Perhaps more disciplined, definitely more technically sound - they tackled what they got to - but still penalty prone and after losing Woody it was like we never had any sort of leadership or brains on the defensive side of the ball at all. We still look confused back there before every play and other teams have commented on it. And I do think we had some good coaches considering how well they have done other places.

That said, about the worst thing Jerry could have done with these guys is give them Wade - complete and total freedom to be morons without repercussion. Now they are a dumb team who also don't practice, are fundamentally soft and care more about getting their mug on tv than winning football games. Perfect storm of immaturity and enablement.

Heck, even Campo's team could line up correctly, play hard and make a tackle.

So how do you explain the improvement in the defense once Wade took over from Brian Stewart, if he couldn't coach and teach assignments and play hard? How did they become the lead leader in sacks?
 

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khiladi;2592366 said:
So how do you explain the improvement in the defense once Wade took over from Brian Stewart, if he couldn't coach and teach assignments and play hard? How did they become the lead leader in sacks?

And one of the leagues worst in creating turnovers. And an awful tackling team.

There is more to defense than sacks. And it helps when you have a physcial freak in Ware piling up 20 of them.
 

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Hostile;2592280 said:
Thank you Bill Parcells for being better than Dave Campo and taking this talentless team and rebuilding it.

I thank you Bill Parcells from the bottom of my heart for being better than Dave Campo,

Don't forget thanking him for being better than Wade, Gailey and Switzer while you're at it.
 

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wileedog;2592372 said:
And one of the leagues worst in creating turnovers. And an awful tackling team.

There is more to defense than sacks. And it helps when you have a physcial freak in Ware piling up 20 of them.

They had at least one turnover in ever game when Wade started coaching this defense. Their pressure wasn't coming in garbage time, like it was when Stewart was coaching. Also, these statistics correlated with a rise in TOs by our offense, which is all the more statistically significant. Against the Steelers, this defense had to defend against 5 TOs. We were second in the league in turning the ball over.

So Bradie James is a sack-machine as well? Where was Bradie in the backfield when Stewart was coaching this team, or Parcells for that matter? Ware wouldnt have touched 20 sacks, if it weren't for Wade. He wasn't close to those numbers prior to this year.
 

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Hostile;2592146 said:
Better football man than them? Absolutely. Never said he wasn't. Probably better than all of those ham and eggers put together.

Good enough results? Not by a damn sight.

Could he have turned it around and produced the results we wanted? We will never know because of the yellow stripe up his back.

The guy walks away over a bobbled snap, one play away from a post seasonw in that could have been the first step on the road to our dreams and I am supposed to genuflect to him? Forgive me, my knees and back hurt too bad to suffer for that piece of chicken.

I don't expect you or anyone to genuflect to him. I don't think his time here was great. But I do know he turned around the mess Jerry created.

I wish he had done more. But that fact is he's the best coach we've had here since Jimmy left. I know that may not be saying much seeing the other rejects Jerry's brought through Valley Ranch, but it's still a fact.

As for having a yellow stripe up his back, I don't know. I think he was growing older. He lost his brother while he was in Dallas and that really seemed to have an affect on him. I don't doubt having to put up with Jerry's BS wasn't starting to take a toll as well.

I know he did better jobs at previous stops, when he was younger and when he had his full array of staff around him. But there's no denying he got us back in playoff contention after the consecutive 5-11 seasons Campo and Jerry had us mired in.

When Parcells left it's too bad Jerry didn't continue with what was working. That is hiring another strong HC and giving him full control over his staff and keeping the outside distractions at bay. But instead he immediately reverted to his old ways of hiring a soft HC, meddling in staff hires and bringing the circus back to town. The man just doesn't get it.
 

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khiladi;2592401 said:
They had at least one turnover in ever game when Wade started coaching this defense. Their pressure wasn't coming in garbage time, like it was when Stewart was coaching. Also, these statistics correlated with a rise in TOs by our offense, which is all the more statistically significant. Against the Steelers, this defense had to defend against 5 TOs. We were second in the league in turning the ball over.

So Bradie James is a sack-machine as well? Where was Bradie in the backfield when Stewart was coaching this team, or Parcells for that matter? Ware wouldnt have touched 20 sacks, if it weren't for Wade. He wasn't close to those numbers prior to this year.

We also played some crappy offenses down the stretch.

But hey, good for Wade. For 6 games he got more out of a team comprised of 619 1st round draft picks than several other coaches managed to. By all means make him DC already.
 
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