Is this the game Prescott emerges to more Elite category?

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The question I want answered this Sunday is... Is Dak the QB from the Monday night game or the QB who led the NFL in interceptions despite missing 5 games. If he's the latter...the Boyz are screwed.
 

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Could he become the first QB since the 90’s to lead Cowboys to a championship game appearance?

And will he be the difference in finally knocking down that wall?

This is a great opportunity for him to get the monkey not only off his back but the entire franchise .

Can he take us where many have felt we’d probably not go again this era under Jethro?

If he can and if he continues playing his best ball on the biggest stages then he’s likely to vault more into the Elite category so many have denied him without more postseason success.
To say this is a HUGE game for Dak is an understatement. Wont he be looking for another contract after next year? If Dak has another game like last week and we win the game and advance to the title game, Dak will put a lot of his critics to rest.

BUT, if he has another game like he did last year against the 49ers, he is goin got be crucified by fans, the media, and God himself. What will that do to his future contract? Making and even winning a SB for the Cowboys will literally change the course of his ACTUAL LIFE. Think about how nuts that is.
 

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The question I want answered this Sunday is... Is Dak the QB from the Monday night game or the QB who led the NFL in interceptions despite missing 5 games. If he's the latter...the Boyz are screwed.
I'm a numbers guy with this sort of thing. Dak has had a passer rating of at least 110 in 10 of his last 28 starts. He has had a rating of 95 or better in 7 others. That's 17 of 28 starts with a really GOOD performance from him. There have been I believe 6 starts with a rating of 80 or lower in that span. So by the math he is about 3 times more likely to have a good game than a bad one. He's also about 1.5 times as likely to have a phenomenal game than an outright stinker. So the odds favor his having a great game this week more than his falling on his face. Now we know past performance is no guarantee of future success.. but this is what the numbers tell me. All I know is when he's locked in that dude is as good as anyone. And he looked pretty locked in Monday night. If he looks anywhere near that locked in Sunday we're going to win going away. If he runs for 4-5 first downs and maybe a TD or two while completing 80% of his passes which could easily have been 90%. Remember his first three passes were outright drops or the onslaught they laid on the Bucs defense might have started from the jump.
 

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Win Sunday, & he'll accomplish something no Dallas QB has done since Aikman. That will certainly help his reputation tremendously. Whether it's cynicism or not, the majority of folks aren't impressed by beating the mediocre Bucs.

There aren't many in the football world who haven't been talking positively about the 49ers. I believe on the NFL's site, they have them #1 in their power rankings. Plenty believe they are the strongest team left. Beat them, on their own turf, in what will surely be the most watched playoff game to this point this year..... & Dak will get some much deserved credit. Even from some of his haters.

I saw this morning that the Bucs/Cowboys was the most watched playoff game since 1999. Im not sure if that was most watched on ESPN or in general with over 30 million viewers. I am not sure a Sunday game will beat a primetime Monday Night audience, but we will see.
 

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Could he become the first QB since the 90’s to lead Cowboys to a championship game appearance?

And will he be the difference in finally knocking down that wall?

This is a great opportunity for him to get the monkey not only off his back but the entire franchise .

Can he take us where many have felt we’d probably not go again this era under Jethro?

If he can and if he continues playing his best ball on the biggest stages then he’s likely to vault more into the Elite category so many have denied him without more postseason success.
Yes. But some Dak haters are now saying that the 49ers are paper tigers. Almost 200 people here picked the Bucs to beat us, some of those said after the game that the Bucs are trash.

The targets will always be moved by the ones who wished death on him, wished he would get injured and the ones that always root against because they say he's trash. Those people will NEVER give him the credit if he pulls off that accomplishment.

GO COWBOYS!! :star:
 

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he did that last game. He doesn't need to be a Hero. He just needs to be Phil Simms-like. Take care of the ball. Manage what the defense gives him and let the guys do their jobs. Lean on the defense and take whats given. LIMIT bad passes. If Dak passes for like 25-30 attempts, we win. That means everyone did their jobs. Its unfair to ask him to drive 80 yards every time against an elite defense as well. Not realistic. Give Dak a short field.
 

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he did that last game. He doesn't need to be a Hero. He just needs to be Phil Simms-like. Take care of the ball. Manage what the defense gives him and let the guys do their jobs. Lean on the defense and take whats given. LIMIT bad passes. If Dak passes for like 25-30 attempts, we win. That means everyone did their jobs. Its unfair to ask him to drive 80 yards every time against an elite defense as well. Not realistic. Give Dak a short field.

Didn't he do it like 4 times against the Bucs? I think he can do it against the 49ers too. Their pass rush is better than the Bucs but their secondary is not any better and may be worse. Their corners are trash and their safeties are just okay. Give Dak time and he strafes them.

I just looked it up.. Starting with the 3rd drive of the game the Cowboys went 80 yards, 80 yards, 91 yards and 86 yards on consecutive drives. Dak was in the zone..
 

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Whatever bruh.....
He's a narcissistic troll. He likes to think he's right all the time. We don't know the game like he does. Just ask him.

I hope and pray that he's not this miserable in real life. But psychologists like Jordan Peterson say that one's online persona often fits their real life persona too.
 

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Didn't he do it like 4 times against the Bucs? I think he can do it against the 49ers too. Their pass rush is better than the Bucs but their secondary is not any better and may be worse. Their corners are trash and their safeties are just okay. Give Dak time and he strafes them.

I just looked it up.. Starting with the 3rd drive of the game the Cowboys went 80 yards, 80 yards, 91 yards and 86 yards on consecutive drives. Dak was in the zone..
I guess the point is, why make him have to? Its messin with fire asking any QB to drive the length of the field all the time against an elite team. Its begging for bad things to happen.
 

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Jim Plunkett, Mark Rypien, Jeff Hostetler, Trent Dilfer, Nick Foles, Brad Johnson, Rex Grossman, etc., weren't elite either.
But they did what they had to do to help their teams win Super Bowls.
If Dak does that, I'm fine with him. I don't care if he's elite or not.

As for a certain NY Giants quarterback who won two Super Bowls with clutch throws ... you can't spell elite without E-L-I. ;)
 

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Yes. But some Dak haters are now saying that the 49ers are paper tigers. Almost 200 people here picked the Bucs to beat us, some of those said after the game that the Bucs are trash.

The targets will always be moved by the ones who wished death on him, wished he would get injured and the ones that always root against because they say he's trash. Those people will NEVER give him the credit if he pulls off that accomplishment.

GO COWBOYS!! :star:
Got any proof of this? I didn’t vote and I’m sure there are a few that switched sides, but 200? I think everyone knew that the bucs weren’t a good team as most of their wins came in last two minutes. If Dallas won the game, good job doing what was expected. Win at San Fran against a legit team and you’ve given most of us more than we’ve had in two decades, don’t and I’ll continue saying he’s not good enough in the big games. I’m not moving sticks or goals, I’m just not making the goals easier bc of one game either.
 

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Dak will go as Kellen and the OL and receivers go. They are all in a symbiotic relationship. Contrary to those who think there are QB's who can change everything around them and win no matter what, it isn't true. We saw Joe Burrow fail when he didn't have blocking or Jamar Chase. We saw Mahommes fail when his OL couldn't protect him, despite his weapons. We saw what Rodgers is without good blocking and consistent receivers, and we've seen what Brady is without protection or a run game.

Dak, Kellen, OL, and receivers must all play well together. If any single group or Dak/Kellen perform poorly, they will not be successful against SF or any game against a really good team/defense. My opinion---Dak is not elite; he is very good and certainly above average despite some fans protestations that he's a bottom feeder. But even an elite QB needs everyone functioning at a high level in the playoffs, and Dak has proven that he can play at an elite level when the others fall into place, but he will not be successful unless the OL, Kellen, and the receivers play well.
 

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IDK but if KM keeps him out of the pocket I'll nominate him OC of the year.
 

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Team game!

Dak Prescott is not going to carry this team to victory. The whole team is going to have to play well to beat the 49ers. Our defense is going to have to find a way to contain McCaffrey and Samuels. We also need a strong pass rush.

Dak is a very good QB and he played great against the Bucs. That success was a combination of him playing well, game plan, and execution. I dont attribute it to Dak suddenly becoming elite and deciding to start dominating in week 19. Its a team game and a QB's statistics are tied to team success more than any other player on the field.

But at the same time I understand that people have a strange fascination with having their MVP's and hero's.
 

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I knew if he played well against the 8-9 Bucs some of ya'll would just forget everything from the past 7 years.

I called that from a mile a away.
You're a genius, but are you smart enough to see that no QB, not even the elite ones (I don't see Dak as elite) are not successful without everyone around them and the play caller also playing at a high level. All QBs, like all players, have sub-par games, but I would argue that when Romo or Dak have played poorly, it was usually against better teams that outplayed the OL, receivers, and playcaller. They are all in it together, and in just the past 3 seasons, we have seen some of the greatest QBs in the game fail miserably in the playoffs when they couldn't be protected (Burrows, Brady, Mahommes), didn't have their weapons (Burrows, Rodgers), had a playcaller blow it, or had a lousy defense that couldn't get them the ball or field position. If SF wins, it's just stupid to blame Dak's play without looking also at the OL, receivers, and Kellen Moore. If everyone else plays well, and Dak craps the bed, then that's on him and only on him.
 

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Could he become the first QB since the 90’s to lead Cowboys to a championship game appearance?

And will he be the difference in finally knocking down that wall?

This is a great opportunity for him to get the monkey not only off his back but the entire franchise .

Can he take us where many have felt we’d probably not go again this era under Jethro?

If he can and if he continues playing his best ball on the biggest stages then he’s likely to vault more into the Elite category so many have denied him without more postseason success.
It would be a good start. The rest is never easy, so we'll see how the supporting cast performs.
I get your meaning about "more elite", but maybe another term is more relevant. Kinda like being pregnant or not.
 

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,,, ask again in 4 days. A solid performance over a crap team is nice but that doesn't help anyone's argument and it's laughable that some want to "drop the mic" right now, this isn't the hump we've been hoping he would get over someday.

To be fair, we've been waiting decades for the Cowboys defense to get over the hump too, a solid performance from them would help QB1 too.

If last weekends game didn’t change anything neither should this upcoming weekends game…or any 1 game.

Evaluation should be over body of work, not a single game. Any QB can be elite for 1 game.
 

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That's a great point. On a side note, Aaron Rodgers is considered by many as the top two best quarterbacks to have ever played... yet he has the same amount of Superbowl wins as Nick Foles, Trent Dilpher and many other quarterbacks.

Rodgers is elite but.... why haven't he carried his teams to more Superbowl victories???
This is a family site so I will not discuss Rodgers on here. =)
 

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Got any proof of this? I didn’t vote and I’m sure there are a few that switched sides, but 200? I think everyone knew that the bucs weren’t a good team as most of their wins came in last two minutes. If Dallas won the game, good job doing what was expected. Win at San Fran against a legit team and you’ve given most of us more than we’ve had in two decades, don’t and I’ll continue saying he’s not good enough in the big games. I’m not moving sticks or goals, I’m just not making the goals easier bc of one game either.
I don't recognize your name. You must not bash Dak. If you do it's minimal. So you cool. (Not that it matters to you ;)) There's about 15 people here that will never give him credit even if he wins the MVP in the SB. They will give credit to someone else for his achievements. One known clown here said something like "Yeah he won a game. So are we are just going to forgive him for the other 7 years of failure?" Instead of praising him for doing what no other QB did in a playoff game, they criticize him. He set 2 NFL playoff records and broke a few other Cowboys record too. It's always going to be something with them. Here are all the people who voted against their team. To be exact, it's 195, not 200.

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If Dak shows up for this contest with the 49ers with the same presence that he displayed vs. Tampa, I'll be tickled pink. In fact, I thought the entire team put forth their best effort of the season in that game. A similar performance would surely elevate the team and Dak's reputation convincingly. I'm quite confident that the 49ers will present a more productive running attack than did Tampa, however. It'll likely take another fine outing by our defense to make a convincing win possible. Hopefully, our players will make sure to display the same intensity throughout that upcoming battle.
 
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