News: It is official! Zeke suspended 6 games **merged**

[Manwiththeplan]

Instead she went with him to Miami. I love guys that go cavalier for women that don't want it.

I never said, nor even think he should be prosecuted for this, because at the end of the day, she was fine with it. However, when discussing his judgment, I think it's reasonable to point out he committed sexual assault on that day

 

[mrmojo]

These talk show guys don't have all the facts, the guy is ranting that the suspension is justified because the report stated SEVERAL instances of DV by Elliot............wouldn't let callers finish who contradicted what he said.......this is gonna be a long weekend.

 

[Verdict]

I would have drafted Mixon maybe in a short trade back. It goes way beyond the possible suspension of Zeke. I assume Zeke NFLPA will appeal it.

We should not allow ourselves to piss off the window created by this OL. We could have easily taken a player who would contribute every bit of what Taco will contribute this year (maybe Tapper is already that guy plus some).

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Thats the problem. Goodell's powers have been negociated. Conduct unbecoming...can be viewed anyway the FO wants. Elliott can not win even much less than Brady. This absolute non sense is on the league office and that is sad. What is wrong with the leagues FO..that is the real question and the nflpa needs to be on this...if they are not part of it. It makes no logical sense for a professional sports organisation to try and harm their biggest assets. It is self defeating and proves the need for change at the NFL corporate level.

Below is from that ruling from the appeals court, the issue important to Zeke will be bolded:

We hold that the commissioner properly exercised his broad discretion under the collective bargaining agreement and that his procedural rulings were properly grounded in that agreement and did not deprive Brady of fundamental fairness. Accordingly, we reverse the judgement of the district court and remand with instructions to confirm the award.

I expect that Zeke will have a hell of a case over the issue of fairness.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

Two things here:
1) Zeke needs to not be an idiot

but more importantly...
2) Goodell with ANOTHER overreach of power. Zeke will appeal it down, but that's still not great.

 

[LocimusPrime]

With money comes headaches. Mo money mo problems

 

[tyke1doe]

Yes they can. And he has pretty much no case in court. The precedent was set with the Brady case. The CBA gives Goodell great power. There are no Constitutional rights involved.

After researching, sadly, you are correct.
Court says Goodell is judge, jury and executioner.

 

[CWR]

http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/11/ezekiel-elliott-domestic-violence-injury-photos/

photo's of her injuries now out

Pretty sure those have been out, or there were VERY similar ones already out.

 

[TheHerd]

I'm in NH too, can't take much more of these Pats fans around here

Haha, agreed. Once the emperor leaves and they go back to 7-9, the Sox take over again. Pats fans are the most bandwagoners ever. It's just been a long ride.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

Haha, agreed. Once the emperor leaves and they go back to 7-9, the Sox take over again. Pats fans are the most bandwagoners ever. It's just been a long ride.

Garappolo looks great, so I'm concerned they'll be good for another decade.

 

[TheHerd]

I'm in NH too, can't take much more of these Pats fans around here

Your profile says CA. Where you at?

 

[haleyrules]

With money comes headaches. Mo money mo problems

Ha! With no money...comes the greatest problems of all. Money solves troubles...lack of dough creates troubles!! I still love you.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I never said, nor even think he should be prosecuted for this, because at the end of the day, she was fine with it. However, when discussing his judgment, I think it's reasonable to point out he committed sexual assault on that day

So you think sexual assault should not be prosecuted? She was with him and did not take issue with it. She went with him to Miami.

Sexual assault involves the girl saying no. Great to see we have yet more men that don't even care what the woman's opinion is.

 

[tyke1doe]

I didn't steal it. By law that is not theft. You consented to me taking your car because you never went to law enforcement to file a complaint.

Just like if I give you a noogie and you don't complain, you consented to me doing that and it's not assault.

Or if I walk up to your house with no trespassing signs and hang out for a while and you don't complain...you have consented to me being on your property and I didn't trespass.


YR

I don't think that's true. There have been domestic assault cases that have been prosecuted even when the victim, for fear, didn't testify. As long as you have witnesses who can testify that a crime has occurred and the evidence to support that testimony, a case can be brought.

 

[Philmonroe]

I know we are ALL upset at the 6 game suspension, I was at first. But after careful consideration, this can save Elliott. He's been a "cant' touch me" player since he came into the league, just doing whatever he wants when he wants. When you're the stud everywhere you go, it's inconceivable to be punished for anything.

Let's take the 6 games, or 4, or whatever is handed down and let's learn from this (Just like Dez Bryant learned) and let's get on with the business of winning super bowls next year and so on.

We all need to get over this and get ready to go to battle with what we have. This means that Dak will probably get more opportunities to make plays, and that's not a bad thing if we're looking for our future Super Bowl type QB. Imagine if he were lost 6 weeks to injury, how would we handle it then?

I don't believe in punishment unless you did something wrong not to send a message.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

If you read the last page of the player contract there is a clause that states the commissioner can do what he wants against conduct detrimental.

In reality though the NFL cannot do what it wants. There are provisions in labor law against inequitable punishments. If the NFLPA can present cases where players were treated differently then they have a case. Judge Nelson and Doty have taken the NFL to task over this as well.

All I know is that this upcoming NFL CBA negotiation is going to be a doozy. Collusion, player discipline, money, and on and on. At least this time Goodell and the NFL is not going to have massive public support like they did 5 years ago.

You got that right. I'm one hundred percent behind the players next time, something I've never been before. Even if it's a long holdout I don't care. Sick of all this nonsense. Sports should be fun. If I wanted to watch Law & Order I'd turn that on not the NFL.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't think that's true. There have been domestic assault cases that have been prosecuted even when the victim, for fear, didn't testify. As long as you have witnesses who can testify that a crime has occurred and the evidence to support that testimony, a case can be brought.

What about if the only witness available testifies that no crime occurred and indicates a conspiracy?

 

[TheHerd]

Garappolo looks great, so I'm concerned they'll be good for another decade.

Tom terrific has a few years left, Garappolo will be long gone. But even for all the Brady heroics, the Belichick defense always comes up big. The D is a bigger part of their success them anyone admits. The Brady as god story plays better.

 

[Clove]

I don't believe in punishment unless you did something wrong not to send a message.

Do you believe in "not" learning from your antics? Antics, by the way, the league can punish you for as evidence.

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

Yes they can. And he has pretty much no case in court. The precedent was set with the Brady case. The CBA gives Goodell great power. There are no Constitutional rights involved.

The only issue here is that Brady deflating footballs did not brand him as a woman beater, did not affect endorsements, and did not put him one more set up away from ending his career. The NFL in this case is branding Zeke for the rest of his life as a criminal. This will have implications in every facet of his life. I think a case can be made in court.