ITS: Ungrateful fans need to stop taking Dak Prescott for granted

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He's good, he plays great sometimes, but he's not elite...although he's paid like he's elite...

Plenty of teams with much worse options, but also plenty with better options...definitely better than the average but not much better

ok, what does getting paid like Elite mean? this is getting so old and so meaningless that even the most ardent Bash Dak over Dallas cult have stopped arguing it. what is non-elite money?


top 15 are paid 30M and above? top 10 are 40M and above. I know there aren't 10 Elite QBs in the league. its the market. its the NFL. get used to it. its about to get blown out of the water, with Lawrence, Herbert, Burrow coming up for contracts.

 

[Techsass]

yeah, I agree guys let's blame everybody but the guy Mike said wasn't elite and has to bring in another quarterback to train him so he doesn't keep choking. I like Mike, he knows what he has.

Whatever happened to McCarthy 's QB school? I haven't heard a word about it since he got hired.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

2-4 in the playoffs and one of the wins was against an 8-9 losing team that had no business in the playoffs

fact

So ur saying we're not really 2-4, we're more like 2* -4? Or 1-3*

Geez that's depressing.

Thanks for ruining my day

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I disagree, he was paid at an elite level, his contract is situated such that he will also be extended at an elite level...the fact that others have been given higher contacts as the cap has grown is diluting the view...when he is extended this year hewill again be in the top 3

no, its not diluting anything. its the cycle of salaries in NFL and it keeps going up. its the market in NFL when top 15 QB salaries are 30M and above. its a meaningless argument on your part.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

We’d all love to have an Elite qb . Unfortunately there’s not enough to go around 32 teams .

Most franchises have to settle for much less and try and build around the best they can.

Exactly, in any generation in the NFL, there's usually only a few that are elite. In the 70s, you had Staubach, Stabler, and Bradshaw. In the 80s, you had Elway, Marino, and Montana. In the 90s, Aikman, Young, Elway, Favre, and Kelly. 00s, you had Brady, Rothelisberger, and Peyton Manning. 2010s Peyton Manning, Brady, and Rodgers. 2020s: currently Mahomes and Joe Burrow.

Then, there are a lot of really good QBs. You know, the likes of Dak, Romo, Phil Simms, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, and others who were or are very good. In the case of Simms and Manning they had excellent coaches in Parcells and Coughlin respectively. Romo had Parcells for a few seasons, only half of the last was with him as a starter. What could've been if Romo had Parcells a bit longer.

Then you have some like Dak and Matt Ryan who had, at one point, horrible coaches. Dak has a better coach now, but Garrett was terrible. Hence the fact that nobody has hired him to coach since the Giants sacked him as OC.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

And a playcaller who was world class one week, and couldn't coach a high school team the next. Mike McCarthy is experienced enough to know how to adjust a game plan.

I am going to miss 4 WRs running 10 yard curl routes.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Most of the ungrateful fans that claim Dak sucks and is a liability weren’t watching the Cowboys in the mid to late 80s and early 2000s.

some weren't born and consider that ancient history. some just want to b!tch and moan.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Whatever happened to McCarthy 's QB school? I haven't heard a word about it since he got hired.

Mike said the school was out for the mouthbreather. He would wait until they get rid of dak and get somebody else. You can only lead a horse to water so much before realize you have a dumb horse. shrugs

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He's not anywhere near Romo as a talent.

You think Prescott could make Laurent Robinson look like a quality NFL WR? Spare me.

when did Robinson look like an NFL WR? or didn't Dak make Williams look like an NFL WR?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He’s not a Super Bowl QB. So why waste more time? I’d draft someone in the first round next year and drop Dak in 2025 barring a championship in the interim.

He also had his worst season as a pro last year. Criticism is appropriate at this point. I’m holding out a sliver of hope that he can drive the bus to a championship game but it’s sorta naive to expect it considering the trajectory.

what's a superbowl QB? please define. and then please tell us how to get one.

 

[Techsass]

Whaaaa? And he didn't give us proper credits in his article?

CowboysLakerBamaFan might be a fan of the four greatest sports teams on earth...including the GA Bulldogs and Manchester United....but he's not a fan of using people using OUR collective genius here with not giving the legally required credits somewhere in the document

Ah we take credit for a lot of stuff already, plus some on this board ain't so worried about legalities.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You can thank Kellen Moore for that....

I am going to miss those 4 WR 10 yard curl routes....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Don't have to replace Dak with an equal caliber QB.

Replace him with a better *value* QB, and use the extra resources left over to build a better overall team.

ok, please tell us we don't have any money to build a better over all team? this total BS is so bad these days that most Bash Dak over Dallas Cult have stopped using it. we had 20M last year. we have 20M this year. where are all those great players you want and we CAN'T sign? and you know we are already negotiating with Diggs and Lamb.

prove where we don't have money and who do you want to sign that we can't? how do you build a team through FA?

 

[blueblood70]

Last two seasons:
Dak 19-9
Rush 5-1

Overall the Dak love smacks of insulting the rest of the team. Dak isn't dragging the team to victories. This is a very good team outside of the QB. Let's be honest, Rush is a pretty bad NFL QB. No mobility and a poor arm yet the team has consistently won with him.

IMO, there is a small minority of fans that think that Dak is terrible and a small minority who think he is elite. Most people are in the middle and have him around the 10th best NFL QB. The debate is if having the 10th best QB in the NFL is good enough or if he is just always going to let the team down when faced with the truly elite QB's.

good try, HUGE FAIL

this logic with common sense, remember those games that led to 5-1 for rush he wasnt good in most of them average at best to very bad.. Dak easily goes 5-1 in those games but in no way shape or from could Rush win many of those games that bigger points were needed, FACT..he couldnt score , failed on 3rd downs and also turned it over.. no way could rush win game where the offense would need to score 40 to win daks done it so many times ive lost count..

Washington game threw 2 picks got lucky called back. Rams game 2 fumbles but didn't lose them but hey his 107yards total passing yards and inability to do anything must have been forgotten as the d scored more then our O, oh the 3 INTs in the philly game.. bottom 10 offense skated to few wins because of the hot streak the team was on, dak also wins those games but without the drama, going away,

rush was so good offers flowed in for starting position, oh wait they ddint, oh wait many backup offers, no wait.. they saw the film..lol haters somehow were blinded by the jag like numbers.

TRY harder to not understand football jst thow up that 5-1 record as if we are some common fans inhere that didnt watch and swaw how those games were won. no way rush would get to 500 in those games you have Dak at 19-9 and also not using context 2 games last year Dak provided that defense a 17 and 14 point 4TH QTR lead and they blew it..

that same defense, run game, and Special teams plays rush had, Dak didnt get that most games..immediatly ,we saw 200 yard rush games given up, points scored against that defense and dak dropped 50, 40, 40 etc context and facts.

 

[Techsass]

What has Dak done for the Cowboys in his seven years as QB or ever for that matter. He has not been to a championship game or a SB for that matter. He sounds like another
Romo to me. Just another Jag playing for big money in the NFL. If you want to glorify NFL QB's look at Mahomes, Brady, Rogers, or Burrow. Now those are actual winning QB's.

Who won't make it to any kind of championship title games without a decent team.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The cap is very fluid. Just because we have 20 million in space right now doesn’t mean that we don’t need to push that forward in order to pay for future years. Or… We are being run by morons, who have no idea how to maximize a window.

what the heck does this even mean!? yes, the cap is fluid. the fact is that we do have 20M in cap space. the facts are that you can push money into the future. at some point, it all comes to an end and you rebuild. but that's every team. sounds like you are more worried about the cap than actually building a team (see Rams two years ago).

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

What has Dak done for the Cowboys in his seven years as QB or ever for that matter. He has not been to a championship game or a SB for that matter. He sounds like another
Romo to me. Just another Jag playing for big money in the NFL. If you want to glorify NFL QB's look at Mahomes, Brady, Rogers, or Burrow. Now those are actual winning QB's.

Firstly, to me, Romo was not a Jag by any means. He may not have won a championship, but neither did Marino. And Marino had an excellent coach in Don Shula. Besides 4 seasons with Parcells (only one of which had him starting), he had Jason Garrett as either OC or HC. Not exactly an awe-inspiring coach. And he got very unlucky in some games on teams that we were lucky to even get 8 wins in some seasons. 2013 was a season where Romo got so unlucky on several occasions. Especially in the case of the Broncos game, he had games where his play should have won us the game. But, our defence that year was so putrid that it wasn't enough. That season alone should teach fans that it's more than just the QB. You need an actual team around you. If Romo had a half-decent defence, we probably have a fairly deep run in the playoffs (before probably losing to Dan Quinn's Legion of Boom). Even then, we were one win away that year from winning the division. Mainly, because Romo led a fantastic comeback against Washington.....only to get hurt and miss the next game. 2014, he played brilliantly, but got very unlucky against the Packers. So, to me, he was an outstanding QB if not borderline elite. He just got very unlucky in some situations.

As for Dak, sure, he's not elite, but he'd definitely not a JAG. The numbers he's put up is very good. Yes, he had a bad season last season, but, overall, he's been solid. Mind you, he only had one noteworthy WR and an injured WR (along with a few tight ends) and Pollard to work with. I'm excited to see what we do this year with Lamb, Cooks, a healthy Gallup, and a nice trio at TE.

 

[Captain-Crash]

me and rusty would like to see dak in a squirrel outfit, hunting nuts.

 

[LittleD]

Firstly, to me, Romo was not a Jag by any means. He may not have won a championship, but neither did Marino. And Marino had an excellent coach in Don Shula. Besides 4 seasons with Parcells (only one of which had him starting), he had Jason Garrett as either OC or HC. Not exactly an awe-inspiring coach. And he got very unlucky in some games on teams that we were lucky to even get 8 wins in some seasons. 2013 was a season where Romo got so unlucky on several occasions. Especially in the case of the Broncos game, he had games where his play should have won us the game. But, our defence that year was so putrid that it wasn't enough. That season alone should teach fans that it's more than just the QB. You need an actual team around you. If Romo had a half-decent defence, we probably have a fairly deep run in the playoffs (before probably losing to Dan Quinn's Legion of Boom). Even then, we were one win away that year from winning the division. Mainly, because Romo led a fantastic comeback against Washington.....only to get hurt and miss the next game. 2014, he played brilliantly, but got very unlucky against the Packers. So, to me, he was an outstanding QB if not borderline elite. He just got very unlucky in some situations.

As for Dak, sure, he's not elite, but he'd definitely not a JAG. The numbers he's put up is very good. Yes, he had a bad season last season, but, overall, he's been solid. Mind you, he only had one noteworthy WR and an injured WR (along with a few tight ends) and Pollard to work with. I'm excited to see what we do this year with Lamb, Cooks, a healthy Gallup, and a nice trio at TE.

Brady didn't have great receivers for most of his years. Yes, he had Gronk.
Losers always fall back on stats while winners hold up SB trophies.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Escobar had few receptions, but 6 tds and ypc > 8 in 2013 and 2014. The last full Romo years.
For a second TE, he was looking like an NFL player.
Then his numbers crashed post Romo, then he couldn't stay employed in SemiPro - (though to be fair, I think he did get some knee injury sometime after 2014).

Yeah maybe I just have a different memory of him. I remember them using him in some end zone stuff....but honestly I don't remember him looking any better than what we've had in guys like Jarwin or Fasano or whoever. Just a guy. Respectfully anyway I know he's passed.