Jean-Jacques Taylor: Henson Project Could Be Sacked

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iceberg said:
he played behind worse in NFLE and showed some mobility.

that aside - just keep in mind *I* didn't make the OL complaint this time. : )

I just thought I would sneak up behind you and yell, "BOO"!

Carry on....

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I haven't seen one quote from Parcells backing JJT's reasoning, such as the part about him lacking decision-making, did anything in Parcells' speech about Henson did he even hit that he was lacking in that department?

Parcells has already made up his mind, yeah, ok
 

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superpunk said:
Hung by his boys?

Jumpin jehosaphat on a pogo stick. We were still alive for the playoffs, regardless of how slight that wondow was, until the Saints game! Parcells should have just told the players, who dedicated countless hours to the season "Well, it's over. Not mathematically over, of course - but I know you scrubs don't have what it takes."???????

Yeah. I could have gotten behind THAT.

super - calm down for a bit and go back (2) years ago w/me when vinnie T was our qb. the last 3 games of the season were meaningless - we were out of the playoffs and we knew vinnie was NOT our long term answer.

this is the birth of "the best chance to win".

win what? another game? three at the most? at what cost?

2 years later henson OR romo still has no real NFL experience to guide us in their abilities.
 

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superpunk said:
Hung by his boys?

Jumpin jehosaphat on a pogo stick. We were still alive for the playoffs, regardless of how slight that wondow was, until the Saints game! Parcells should have just told the players, who dedicated countless hours to the season "Well, it's over. Not mathematically over, of course - but I know you scrubs don't have what it takes."???????

Yeah. I could have gotten behind THAT.

This is what I think alot of people forget...all the other members of that football team worked as hard as they could to get where they were, yet, you have some that want to put ONE inexperienced player above all of that...just so they could "see"? :eek:

Makes no sense to me...that is why I understand why Parcells did not want to give playing time to the kiddys...

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iceberg said:
super - calm down for a bit and go back (2) years ago w/me when vinnie T was our qb. the last 3 games of the season were meaningless - we were out of the playoffs and we knew vinnie was NOT our long term answer.

this is the birth of "the best chance to win".

win what? another game? three at the most? at what cost?

2 years later henson OR romo still has no real NFL experience to guide us in their abilities.

NVM. I misread something you had written earlier. Sorry, I deleted my post.

I do however, not agree with the "game experience" deal. The coaches have a pretty good idea what these players can do, and some meaningless snaps in games where the defenses can tee off on the QB aren't going to make the difference between success and failure. It's a pointless excercise.
 

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and just as easily as JJT wrote this article, I could easily say that since Parcells noticed his good TD to INT ratio, that Henson is just the kind of QB Parcells loves, one that limits turnovers

see how easy that is? reading between the lines is fun!
 

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iceberg said:
2 years later henson OR romo still has no real NFL experience to guide us in their abilities.

and 3 games, or even 8, is really going to make that big of an impact on them :rolleyes:

the only number of games I see having a great impact on a young QB is 16, at least...
 

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summerisfunner said:
and 3 games, or even 8, is really going to make that big of an impact on them :rolleyes:

the only number of games I see having a great impact on a young QB is 16, at least...

The ultimate goal is to "win" the game...that's what players work so hard for, even if it's just 1 game! The regular season is not the time to put some floundering kid out there to try and learn how to play...the team plays to win, period!

Hell, look at the Redstinks...they finally won a few games last year, and look at them now! They think they are the "cock of the walk"! :lmao:
 

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CowboyManDan said:
I'm waiting until we see how training camp and preseason goes before I give up on Henson. I, and I know I'm not the only one, think he had a good NFLE season.

I agree with you. To use one of Campo's lines "I saw some good things out there from him" in NFLE
 

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InmanRoshi said:
We know he's marginally better than Timmy Chang and marginally worse than Tony Romo.

Amazing that you would know Romo is better when he never even played in a real game (or a full 4 quarters) in close to 4 years.

Timmy Chang (QB, Rhein) - 50/89 56% for 659 yards, 4 TD, 3 INT

D.Henson, (QB,Rhein) 109/203 54% for 1,321 Yards 10 TD, 3 INT

I would say the Henson was more than marginally better than Chang, but to each their own.
 

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silverbear said:
In fact, I found myself wondering exactly what it was that Parcells "didn't see", particularly since a week or so earlier, the coach admitted he hadn't watched much of NFL Europe this spring...
That statement was as revealing as anything. Didn't Parcells say at the rookie minicamp, when asked about Henson in NFLE, that he'd watched, "All but a couple" of his games? At a time when only been four or five games had even been played?

If Parcells doesn't even bother to watch the guy play, in the offseason when he has plenty of time...
 

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Chocolate Lab said:
That statement was as revealing as anything. Didn't Parcells say at the rookie minicamp, when asked about Henson in NFLE, that he'd watched, "All but a couple" of his games? At a time when only been four or five games had even been played?

If Parcells doesn't even bother to watch the guy play, in the offseason when he has plenty of time...

Uh, they tape the games. Maybe he'd rather just sit down and evaluate them all at once after the season?
 

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Actually all but the last one or two NFLE games had been played at the point Parcells made those comments, as it was the week after the draft.
 

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summerisfunner said:
and just as easily as JJT wrote this article, I could easily say that since Parcells noticed his good TD to INT ratio, that Henson is just the kind of QB Parcells loves, one that limits turnovers

see how easy that is? reading between the lines is fun!

Good point.
The mediots should wait till we see how he does in training camp and preseason games.
 

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superpunk said:
NVM. I misread something you had written earlier. Sorry, I deleted my post.

I do however, not agree with the "game experience" deal. The coaches have a pretty good idea what these players can do, and some meaningless snaps in games where the defenses can tee off on the QB aren't going to make the difference between success and failure. It's a pointless excercise.

i understand and respect not agreeing - it just gets crazy when one side tries to prove right or wrong by the end of it. : )

i don't think NFL snaps are meaningless. i don't think letting a player play is meaningless to find out what they can do over the long haul, or at least get a better idea during "real" time, not just practice. i used to watch practices - it's like slow motion on shrooms - and i also feel people can play differently in a "game" vs a practice as well.

so i also disagree it's pointless.

as for other players suffering while the business gathers info for the business, they can console themselves in their nice car and home - it is a business, right? shouldn't these players be on board with long term moves if it's designed to make it better for all? this is trying to please everyone (this line of thinking) and as a business you can't do that. besides, i've never seen a player mad that the coach/owner used a meaningless game as talent evaluation. if it's there, link me. : )
 

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iceberg said:
- it's like slow motion on shrooms -

Holy @*%$, now I think I understand your posts better, now that you have revealed this little tidbit of info!

Carry on...

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summerisfunner said:
and 3 games, or even 8, is really going to make that big of an impact on them :rolleyes:

the only number of games I see having a great impact on a young QB is 16, at least...

but if you won't give them 2-3 when there's no "cost" to the franchise, when will you give them that 16?
 

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iceberg said:
i understand and respect not agreeing - it just gets crazy when one side tries to prove right or wrong by the end of it. : )

i don't think NFL snaps are meaningless. i don't think letting a player play is meaningless to find out what they can do over the long haul, or at least get a better idea during "real" time, not just practice. i used to watch practices - it's like slow motion on shrooms - and i also feel people can play differently in a "game" vs a practice as well.

so i also disagree it's pointless.

as for other players suffering while the business gathers info for the business, they can console themselves in their nice car and home - it is a business, right? shouldn't these players be on board with long term moves if it's designed to make it better for all? this is trying to please everyone (this line of thinking) and as a business you can't do that. besides, i've never seen a player mad that the coach/owner used a meaningless game as talent evaluation. if it's there, link me. : )

I can attest to that myself. I never played football but other games I played, for college etc., its one thing in practice but when it was game time, nervousness/pressure etc. played a big part on performance, negative or positive. I am pretty sure, quite a few people on this board, who might have played, might agree to that.

There are very few people that I knew of personally, who played the same pace or way, they did in practice and real game time.
 

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5Stars said:
Holy @*%$, now I think I understand your posts better, now that you have revealed this little tidbit of info!

Carry on...

:lmao:

dont knock the shrooms man, i never had a bad day on shrooms. :) :)
 
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