Jerry Jones says Cowboys will NOT draft QB with no. 4 pick *Super Hot Pants Mega Merge*

[jnday]

As a matter of fact I PM'ed you the moment it happened... You weren't pleased. I did not register the same level of displeasure but I was not thrilled with giving up a pick.

However I understand how/why they did it... At that point Claiborne was rated very highly.

I'd rather husband the picks.

I was blasted by 99% of this board for hating the Mo pick and the trade up made it even worse . I still remember all the posts saying that he was a ballhawk and he was the next Peterson. He was a decent college player , but he was not in the same league as Peterson.

 

[jnday]

It would take a lot of belief the prospect was "Aikman-like" to justify it to me.

But as of today none of these guys seem to be anywhere close to that (Aikman's) talent level.

That is what message board fans are saying. Behind closed doors, scouts may see the next Manning or Brady. If they do, they sure are not going public with that info.

 

[Risen Star]

If they truly believe that a QB is the next Aikman, you wouldn't support trading up?

It makes zero sense. We're talking about the most important player on the field. No player is more impactful than the QB. We're at 4. Going to 1 isn't going to take an historic haul. I just don't know how you don't do it if the people paid to evaluate the talent are telling you that player is on the board.

For what? Joey Bosa? Jalen Ramsey? Really?

 

[Stash]

It would take a lot of belief the prospect was "Aikman-like" to justify it to me.

But as of today none of these guys seem to be anywhere close to that (Aikman's) talent level.

I'm curious in what way you feel that they aren't "anywhere close to Aikman's talent level"?

 

[Alexander]

If the scouts have one of these QBs rated as a top five player and Jerry passes, he is truly an idiot and he has learned nothing from these last 30 years of failure . I never expected him to draft a QB with the 4th pick, even if it is the right thing to do for the long term future of the team.

That begs the question, what if our scouts are stupid too?

Well, I had better stop here because it could be seen as questioning the genius of Will McClay.

 

[Alexander]

Ramsey and Jack are solid prospects, Bosa is the most questionable of the three. No one should be disappointed with Ramsey or Jack.

Um, does disappointed mean questioning how on earth either of them fit, or should we all just be thankful we got the freak athlete and the rest will just take care of itself?

 

[dfense]

I find that comical considering you're a guy who celebrated the trade up for the irrelevant Morris Claiborne. But a player the team has graded as a franchise QB? No way, man.

You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who did not agree Claiborne was a top 5 pick. Everyone loved him. Everyone was wrong. It happens.

Now he's just afraid to get burned again. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice....

 

[Direwolf63]

That still does not stop people thinking what he says is a "smokescreen".

I guess that is a defense mechanism to deal with the idiotic gibberish that comes out of his mouth.

We all need to do something to cope. Otherwise madness ensues.

 

[Floatyworm]

Why do people keep forgetting Jack is a pretty damn good running back too....You get 2 players for the price of one. This is a no-brainer for me if Wentz is off the board.

 

[Plankton]

I have the locks changed on the war room, slip Jerry a couple of bottles of JW Blue, and pick the QB.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm curious in what way you feel that they aren't "anywhere close to Aikman's talent level"?

Based upon many reasons... I don't see (at this point) any of them having Aikman's ability.

I followed Aikman during that senior season. He was a consensus top 3 selection from the beginning of the season on. There was no late rising after the season was completed, there was no quibbling about his hand size. And after his bowl game he was a solid #1 selection... right across the board.

One of these guys could be a Troy Aikman, but there certainly isn't a lot evidence at this juncture that any of them are close to being in his area-code of talent.

 

[mattjames2010]

Um, does disappointed mean questioning how on earth either of them fit, or should we all just be thankful we got the freak athlete and the rest will just take care of itself?

"Where do they fit" - Ramsey has a high ceiling at safety, I'm sure whoever drafts him will test him at corner and see how it goes. You know, kinda like Byron Jones. There's no question where Jack will go, unless we bring back McClain. As for Bosa, the issue isn't where he fits, it's if he's talented enough.

If we don't want any of the defensive guys, trade down. Simple.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

That is what message board fans are saying. Behind closed doors, scouts may see the next Manning or Brady. If they do, they sure are not going public with that info.

Of course, and if they truly believe that then draft the guy.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I was blasted by 99% of this board for hating the Mo pick and the trade up made it even worse . I still remember all the posts saying that he was a ballhawk and he was the next Peterson. He was a decent college player , but he was not in the same league as Peterson.

I didn't hate selecting Mo. He had the pre-draft pedigree.

I disliked the move up.

 

[Szczepanik]

But I guess that same double-standard doesn't apply to the quarterbacks ranked right up there too, does it?

There is no double standard here. I explained why I prefer a defensive player over the QBs, but at the same time never claimed the top QBs were not good players. A double standard would be me putting Ramsey on a pedestal while saying the QBs were talented.

 

[Risen Star]

You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who did not agree Claiborne was a top 5 pick. Everyone loved him. Everyone was wrong. It happens.

Now he's just afraid to get burned again. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice....

I wasn't wrong. I hated that move the moment it was made. Please don't lump me in with you so you feel better about it.

 

[Stash]

Based upon many reasons... I don't see (at this point) any of them having Aikman's ability.

I followed Aikman during that senior season. He was a consensus top 3 selection from the beginning of the season on. There was no late rising after the season was completed, there was no quibbling about his hand size. And after his bowl game he was a solid #1 selection... right across the board.

Entering the 2015 season, Goff was the consensus top quarterback for the 2016 draft. And his 2015 season only served to enforce that opinion. How someone has the season he had, and the finish to a college career that he did, and somehow is now being doubted is beyond me.

One of these guys could be a Troy Aikman, but there certainly isn't a lot evidence at this juncture that any of them are close to being in his area-code of talent.

I would counter that there is plenty of evidence. Namely, the fact that Goff, in one year did almost as much as Aikman did in four years. I love Aikman as much as anyone, but Goff's college productivity numbers blow Aikman's out of the water.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Entering the 2015 season, Goff was the consensus top quarterback for the 2016 draft. And his 2015 season only served to enforce that opinion. How someone has the season he had, and the finish to a college career that he did, and somehow is now being doubted is beyond me.



I would counter that there is plenty of evidence. Namely, the fact that Goff, in one year did almost as much as Aikman did in four years. I love Aikman as much as anyone, but Goff's college productivity numbers blow Aikman's out of the water.

Goff was the top QB... correct, but he has not been a consensus #1 overall guy. Nor has he been looked at with the same reverence as Aikman, either of the Mannings, Rivers... and several other top-5 picks (some of which panned out and some of which didn't).

Production... can't go by that... not gross numbers. Aikman was in a different era.

Right now Ourlads has Goff the 10th rated guy of the draft. Good prospect? Yeah. A consensus franchise guy? No.

 

[Fletch]

The revenge of Tony Romo: 3 Reasons why 2016 is his year
http://thelandryhat.com/2016/03/01/revenge-tony-romo-3-reasons-2016-year/





...“What is the one unequivocal fact that you can count on, relative to the preparation of this draft and on draft day, is that I’m planning on Romo being the quarterback for the next four or five years,” Jones said. “That’s a fact. You won’t see a decision on draft day that will fly in the face of not believing, from our standpoint, that he’ll be our quarterback for four or five years.”

The all-pro quarterback finished only two full games last season.

To prolong his career, Romo will most likely have minor surgery that involves inserting a plate to strengthen the collarbone. The mothership DallasCowboys.com confirmed that a routine scan in early February showed Romo’s recovery is progressing.

Jones’ quote might be draft day bluff to avoid letting other teams in on their true blueprints. There’s no question the Cowboys need a quarterback, someone behind the aging Romo – who will be paid a handsome $8.5 million salary in 2016 – who can learn and play when called upon.

One thing is clear: Jones clearly believes in Romo’s epic talents. Whether Dallas decides to elect a QB through the draft or free agency or the trade wire, it’s hard to believe any of the selections out there are equipped to unseat Romo from his throne.

This is despite the recent injuries and surgeries.

If there was anything to learn from 2015, it’s that the blood flowing through the organs of the Dallas Cowboys runs through one person: Tony Romo...

Let's hope we can hold on to Witten for at least another 4 to 5 years as well. No reason to separate these two BFF's.

 

[Stash]

There is no double standard here. I explained why I prefer a defensive player over the QBs, but at the same time never claimed the top QBs were not good players. A double standard would be me putting Ramsey on a pedestal while saying the QBs were talented.

"Those same NFL scouts that really like Wentz and Goff all agree that Ramsey and Jack are two of the draft's best players. Be sure to give them a call and discredit them for such analysis. "

Your quote. If the same scouts you're using to justify your defensive players are ranking the quarterbacks high as well, that's not justification of your position, at best it's a wash. If you think otherwise, it absolutely is a double-standard.