Jerry Jones says we can get away with lesser talent on OL

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FuzzyLumpkins;5007995 said:
I don't think you are embarrassing yourself whatsoever, Mike. As wholisitic generalizations around this place go, I though it was one of the better looks.

People want us to win every year but all things being equal, a 3% chance is a 3% chance. With parity and more than a little mismanagement its surprising that we have been .500 over the past 17 years.

The drafting for backups, letting Lacewell run the scouting department for a decade, Dave Campo, bad trades for WR, the Hutch/Carter era, and more.

We've been mismanaged no doubt but even had we not made said mistakes nothing is guaranteed and there is a ton of parity.

I know it's easy to be the cynic but I am just not going to do it.

Thanks Fuzzy!
 

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RastaRocket;5008017 said:
Saw this on another website. The difference between the Cowboys LT and RT.

You know I wouldn't mind Free's body type if he actually had some mammoth arms. Yet instead he combines a weak chest and fat stomach with skinny arm/forearms and frail legs. I get disgusted even looking at still pictures of this guy. Him and Sensabaugh need to go!
 

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Frozen700;5008008 said:
Oh I looked.

I just don't bang my head, and throw my keyboard up against the wall, everytime Jerry opens his mouth.

There is nothing you can do about it, so suck it up. Making a post every 5 minutes, or stalking every thread about Jerry, spewing your venom and hate for him, is pointless...sorry.

Great post.

And it's great because it's realistic.
 

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this is what happens when an oil man/huckster thinks he knows what he is doing and everyone else is hiring professional football people.
 

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MichaelWinicki;5007887 said:
Of course it's almost always going to end in heartbreak!

You've got a league of 32 teams, meaning with all things being equal, all teams have a little over a 3% chance of winning the Super Bowl.

Granted it may be kind of cool if all the other teams simply "gave up" and let the Cowboys win the SB more often, but as we know that's not how this stuff works.

Now this is a realistic post.

MichaelWinicki;5008067 said:
Great post.

And it's great because it's realistic.
 

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mmillman;5008070 said:
this is what happens when an oil man/huckster thinks he knows what he is doing and everyone else is hiring professional football people.

:laugh2:

And only a handful of these so called "professional football people" do a decent job. You sound as if 31 other teams are hiring these "football people" and making tremendous strides. Funny.
 

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Fletch;5008122 said:
:laugh2:

And only a handful of these so called "professional football people" do a decent job. You sound as if 31 other teams are hiring these "football people" and making tremendous strides. Funny.

That's the thing...

You've got a lot of folks who simply think that hiring a "football-guy" is the magic.


Several years ago the Bills hired Tom Donahoe, who was considered "da bomb" when it came to front-office guys to get the Bills back into the playoffs on a yearly basis. He then hired the then hot head coaching names in Greg Williams and then Mike Mularkey.

The whole thing was a disaster.

But there are many examples of similar failures...

Jimmy in Miami
Parcells in Miami
Pioli in KC
Holmgren in Cleveland

A "football guy" isn't a guaranteed ticket to success.
 

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MichaelWinicki;5008127 said:
That's the thing...

You've got a lot of folks who simply think that hiring a "football-guy" is the magic.


Several years ago the Bills hired Tom Donahoe, who was considered "da bomb" when it came to front-office guys to get the Bills back into the playoffs on a yearly basis. He then hired the then hot head coaching names in Greg Williams and then Mike Mularkey.

The whole thing was a disaster.

But there are many examples of similar failures...

Jimmy in Miami
Parcells in Miami
Pioli in KC
Holmgren in Cleveland

A "football guy" isn't a guaranteed ticket to success.

Look at it from a different prospective. We have suffered through 15+ years of utter failure. Yet we have fellow fans defend the source of that failure tooth and nail. You don't get the disgust fine but the disgust is valid. Honestly it is more valid then the hope that this is a smoke screen or that everything will be ok. Even more infuriating to me is people defend this man when he has said himself he has done a horrible job. A football guy would at least give us hope, as it is, we are relegated to hoping Jerry gets lucky or doesn't screw us to bad.
 

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Shiloht88;5008135 said:
Look at it from a different prospective. We have suffered through 15+ years of utter failure. Yet we have fellow fans defend the source of that failure tooth and nail. You don't get the disgust fine but the disgust is valid. Honestly it is more valid then the hope that this is a smoke screen or that everything will be ok. Even more infuriating to me is people defend this man when he has said himself he has done a horrible job. A football guy would at least give us hope, as it is, we are relegated to hoping Jerry gets lucky or doesn't screw us to bad.

Utter failure?

There have been points of utter failure... The three Campo years and the last partial year of the Wade regime... Yep... failure.

Jerry & Co have made some very bad mistakes.

But there have been some good seasons too.

And some seasons of mediocrity.
 

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mmillman;5008070 said:
this is what happens when an oil man/huckster thinks he knows what he is doing and everyone else is hiring professional football people.
You mean like those teams preparing for a top 10 draft pick?
 

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you win by controlling the line of scrimmage. On offense it makes your qb, rb and wr's better.

on defense it makes your lb, and db's better.
 

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big dog cowboy;5008153 said:
You mean like those teams preparing for a top 10 draft pick?

No I mean a team that hasn't been a serious contender since the mid to late 90's.
 

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MichaelWinicki;5008151 said:
Utter failure?

There have been points of utter failure... The three Campo years and the last partial year of the Wade regime... Yep... failure.

Jerry & Co have made some very bad mistakes.

But there have been some good seasons too.

And some seasons of mediocrity.

I guess I missed the "good" seasons in the past 15 years.

Utter failure no. Utter mediocrity yes.

Hey if you want this franchise considered with the likes of the bengals, browns, rams etc. as you seem want to do throughout this thread then keep on making a fool out of yourself defending a guy who admits he would have fired himself for his lack of success had he not been his own boss. You and your few supporters look absolutely ridiculous with you defense of the way he has run the team.
 

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big dog cowboy;5008153 said:
You mean like those teams preparing for a top 10 draft pick?

You know why they are? Some may argue Stafford, but I say not one team in the top 10 has a franchise quarterback.

Romo is a franchise QB in my opinion and he's good enough to take you to the promised land; the Cowboys have just done a horrific job of putting the right pieces around him (OL). It all starts up front.
 

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utrunner07;5008160 said:
I guess I missed the "good" seasons in the past 15 years.

Utter failure no. Utter mediocrity yes.

Hey if you want this franchise considered with the likes of the bengals, browns, rams etc. as you seem want to do throughout this thread then keep on making a fool out of yourself defending a guy who admits he would have fired himself for his lack of success had he not been his own boss. You and your few supporters look absolutely ridiculous with you defense of the way he has run the team.

Hey, I want a consistent winner myself.

But I'm also resigned to the fact that Jerry ain't stepping down so the franchise is going to have to find a way to work around/through that obstacle. In the mean time I'm not going to waste a lot of posts continually beating up the past– but there have been some successful seasons over the past 15 years.
 

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MichaelWinicki;5008167 said:
Hey, I want a consistent winner myself.

But I'm also resigned to the fact that Jerry ain't stepping down so the franchise is going to have to find a way to work around/through that obstacle. In the mean time I'm not going to waste a lot of posts continually beating up the past– but there have been some successful seasons over the past 15 years.
I would say winning the division and going both 13-3 and 11-5 should be "good seasons". Because they lost both years in the second round of the playoffs (one after a win, the other after a bye) I would say they were not "great".
 

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DFWJC;5008173 said:
I would say winning the division and going both 13-3 and 11-5 should be "good seasons". Because they lost both years in the second round of the playoffs (one after a win, the other after a bye) I would say they were not "great".

I'm on board with that definition.
 
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