Twitter: Joseph Randle expected to miss some time

[ConstantReboot]

How was McFadden before Sunday? That's what I thought. The blocking was the major difference.

How was MacFadden before Sunday? One word - UNDERUTILIZED.

Once we got rid of that RBBC concept MacFadden took off. You feed the had that is hot. In regards to Randle, he would run a few big plays in the beginning of the game but not enough to get hot. In fact, he gets colder as the game wore on. Lets face it. Randle is and will always will be nothing more than a change of pace back. Trying to make him into something thats he's not is wasting valuable time and resources on a scrub.

 

[xwalker]

It can't be understated how much better the OL blocked yesterday. They went to a more power scheme and got some guys out in front of the RBs. If they can keep that up then it really might not matter if it is Randle, McFadden or Michael.

Yes, the blocking was the key to the improved running game. They did make changes in the scheme and they had improvements from individual players. Collins is terrific physically; whereas, Leary never should have returned from the Groin injury when he did because it was obviously not close to 100%. Martin had started to look like himself in the Pats game and now seems to finally be past the neck injury that kept him out of the preseason and limited him early in the regular season. Hanna was a big part of the running game last season and he was back so I assume that helped; although, I didn't focus on him.

The threat of having a QB that would throw the ball also appeared to back the defense off from loading up against the run.

The Seahawks will be difficult but if Dez returns they'll likely double him which will also help the running game.

I agree that any of the RB can probably have success as a runner if the blocking is as good as it was in the Giants game. I suspect that pass blocking might be C-Mike's limitation.

The biggest issue with the RBs this year as compared to last is that none of them are playing ST; whereas, last season both Randle and Dunbar played ST.

 

[xwalker]

Don't get what's so hard for fans to grasp that this committee crap doesn't work.

McFadden is the starting back and should get 20-25 carries. Period.

The problem with that is that McFadden was having success before he had a lot of carries and Randle averaged 12 yards per carry before he was injured.

The only way that McFadden getting almost all of the carries 29 of 36 helped him to be successful on his first 6 carries was if they told him he would get all the carries and that mentally caused him to run better. I think you can admit that's a bit of a stretch.

 

[Kevinicus]

How was MacFadden before Sunday? One word - UNDERUTILIZED.

Once we got rid of that RBBC concept MacFadden took off. You feed the had that is hot. In regards to Randle, he would run a few big plays in the beginning of the game but not enough to get hot. In fact, he gets colder as the game wore on. Lets face it. Randle is and will always will be nothing more than a change of pace back. Trying to make him into something thats he's not is wasting valuable time and resources on a scrub.

So...Randle couldn't do better without the RBBC concept? He did better than McFadden during RBBC, maybe he does better without it too.

It's amazing that people can't see the effect that the OL has on the running game and simply think it comes down to the RB only.

 

[ConstantReboot]

So...Randle couldn't do better without the RBBC concept? He did better than McFadden during RBBC, maybe he does better without it too.

It's amazing that people can't see the effect that the OL has on the running game and simply think it comes down to the RB only.

Randle has never rushed for over 100 yards this season. He had every chance to do so but never got hot like MacFadden. The reason is that Randle is a home run hitter. But he strikes out a lot and is nothing more than a change of pace back.

Our oline is the same as last year. Thus its not their fault that Randle dances too much in the back field and doesn't hit the hole hard enough. Randle is the problem with our run game.

 

[Kevinicus]

Randle has never rushed for over 100 yards this season. He had every chance to do so but never got hot like MacFadden. The reason is that Randle is a home run hitter. But he strikes out a lot and is nothing more than a change of pace back.

Our oline is the same as last year. Thus its not their fault that Randle dances too much in the back field and doesn't hit the hole hard enough. Randle is the problem with our run game.

Wow is all I can say. Not an ounce of logic in that post at all.

 

[CowboyStar88]

The problem with that is that McFadden was having success before he had a lot of carries and Randle averaged 12 yards per carry before he was injured.

The only way that McFadden getting almost all of the carries 29 of 36 helped him to be successful on his first 6 carries was if they told him he would get all the carries and that mentally caused him to run better. I think you can admit that's a bit of a stretch.

You just can't give any RB not name Randle credit for anything.. You go but wait look at this he rushed for 12 YPC he would've been great!

Really your bias is shining through again just like with Parnell.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

It can't be understated how much better the OL blocked yesterday. They went to a more power scheme and got some guys out in front of the RBs. If they can keep that up then it really might not matter if it is Randle, McFadden or Michael.

It will matter. Randle bounces around too much, too often. The frustration with McFadden is that he doesn't have great balance and takes the wrong lane quite a bit. But overall...he can produce out there on the field. Also, remember that 3rd and 2 where McFadden got the first down all on his own. The play call was terrible because it was obvious and the blocking wasn't there and McFadden somehow powered thru and got the first down. There's no way in the world Randle ever does that. McFadden and Michael are the guys that should be getting the carries on this team. Hopefully Michael will get up to snuff in pass pro.





YR

 

[Nightman]

It will matter. Randle bounces around too much, too often. The frustration with McFadden is that he doesn't have great balance and takes the wrong lane quite a bit. But overall...he can produce out there on the field. Also, remember that 3rd and 2 where McFadden got the first down all on his own. The play call was terrible because it was obvious and the blocking wasn't there and McFadden somehow powered thru and got the first down. There's no way in the world Randle ever does that. McFadden and Michael are the guys that should be getting the carries on this team. Hopefully Michael will get up to snuff in pass pro.





YR

That 3rd down was a fluke with McFadden. He fought hard and got it, but he wouldn't get it again in most cases IMO.

The problem with McFadden is he can't be counted on. He can't carry the load or keep producing at a high level.

Randle is fine is small doses as well.

The RBBC committee is not my first choice but now that we are committed to it, use them all up.

 

[xwalker]

You just can't give any RB not name Randle credit for anything.. You go but wait look at this he rushed for 12 YPC he would've been great!

Really your bias is shining through again just like with Parnell.

Nope. I've been a big defender of McFadden ever since they signed him. I've been over and over how people tried to claim other RB were all better because of ypc stats but that in reality they were not. They just had small sample sizes as backups which made it appear they were better. McFadden had a much higher ypc as a backup and the other RB had a lower ypc when they started.

It a long posting history of being being supportive of McFadden.

You guys go to line is that I must have a bias against some player when I point out that you're incorrect or being misleading.

It's not as if I knew Parnell personally. He was better than Free and had upside with more experience while Free is on the decline after multiple foot/ankle surgeries. Most people now realize that keeping Free over Parnell was a mistake. I just posted the truth based on game footage just like I'm doing with the RBs.

IIRC you were in the group that gave McFadden no chance just a week or so ago.

 

[Aven8]

How can anybody judge Cmike and his whole 7 carries is beyond me! For the 5 he was in I noticed a couple of blitz pickups he had from coming across the formation so that's a plus.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Nope. I've been a big defender of McFadden ever since they signed him. I've been over and over how people tried to claim other RB were all better because of ypc stats but that in reality they were not. They just had small sample sizes as backups which made it appear they were better. McFadden had a much higher ypc as a backup and the other RB had a lower ypc when they started.

It a long posting history of being being supportive of McFadden.

You guys go to line is that I must have a bias against some player when I point out that you're incorrect or being misleading.

It's not as if I knew Parnell personally. He was better than Free and had upside with more experience while Free is on the decline after multiple foot/ankle surgeries. Most people now realize that keeping Free over Parnell was a mistake. I just posted the truth based on game footage just like I'm doing with the RBs.

IIRC you were in the group that gave McFadden no chance just a week or so ago.

I didn't say anything about DMC.

I advocated C-Mike over Randle

What did we post that was "incorrect" or " misleading" about Sunday?

You are one of those guys who always has to be right and if maybe you're wrong you will find away to spin it so that you are right.

There you go with the Parnell stuff. So because you posted Videos and your analysis that makes it "truth". The coaches and scouts and decision makers disagree with you and your scouting. You can keep saying it over and over again but it's still an "opinion".

Ever since the game ended you have mention Randles 2 carries for 12 yards in multiple posts. I don't care about your history of backing DMC. I am talking about what he did Sunday and how your posts have come off about the run game. It's been all about the blocking and what Randle could've done because he ran for 12 YPC on 2 carries.

 

[DMAC]

So you dont limit a players carries that is injury prone? Really? Hmmmmm........I really have nothing to say to that. Its not worth arguing.

As far as Romo, that is about the silliest example I have ever seen. Nobody limits QB snaps.

Limiting carries because a player is "injury prone" would be flat out stupid. If he was hurt, nursing an injury, less than 100%, ok. But not because he is "prone" to injuries. Show me one example where anyone has done that. And with McFadden, it would be counter productive, as he gets better the more he carries the ball.

As far as Romo, I was just trying to point out how silly the whole "injury prone" statement about McFadden was. At least you got half of it.

 

[xwalker]

I didn't say anything about DMC.

I advocated C-Mike over Randle

What did we post that was "incorrect" or " misleading" about Sunday?

You are one of those guys who always has to be right and if maybe you're wrong you will find away to spin it so that you are right.

There you go with the Parnell stuff. So because you posted Videos and your analysis that makes it "truth". The coaches and scouts and decision makers disagree with you and your scouting. You can keep saying it over and over again but it's still an "opinion".

Ever since the game ended you have mention Randles 2 carries for 12 yards in multiple posts. I don't care about your history of backing DMC. I am talking about what he did Sunday and how your posts have come off about the run game. It's been all about the blocking and what Randle could've done because he ran for 12 YPC on 2 carries.

You just can't give any RB not name Randle credit for anything.. You go but wait look at this he rushed for 12 YPC he would've been great!

Really your bias is shining through again just like with Parnell.

You brought up the subject of me not giving McFadden credit and claimed I only give Randle credit which is blatantly false.

You brought up the subject of Parnell. The mastermind of the OL that Garrett ran off (Bill Callahan) preferred Parnell to Free. There were no scouts that disagreed with me. Parnell got significantly more money than Free and they decided to go the cheaper route like the did with Murray. Free's contract will be a 1 year, 6M deal if they cut him after this season which might have been their plan considering that they used a premium pick (3rd round) on an OT. It appears their choice was Free 1 year, 6M or Parnell 5 years, 32M. Garrett is the only person that like Free more than Parnell because they are close friends. Jerry let Garrett have his way on that after Jerry let his other buddy (Murray) go.

I've showed you specifically how you were wrong yet you try to "spin" it to keep from admitting that you were indeed wrong an then try to claim that's what I'm doing to deflect from your own spin.

 

[xwalker]

Limiting carries because a player is "injury prone" would be flat out stupid. If he was hurt, nursing an injury, less than 100%, ok. But not because he is "prone" to injuries. Show me one example where anyone has done that. And with McFadden, it would be counter productive, as he gets better the more he carries the ball.

As far as Romo, I was just trying to point out how silly the whole "injury prone" statement about McFadden was. At least you got half of it.

McFadden was have success way before he got to 29 carries. He had success on his first 6. It was not more carries that made him successful in this game. It was better blocking and the threat of a passing game.

 

[xwalker]

How can anybody judge Cmike and his whole 7 carries is beyond me! For the 5 he was in I noticed a couple of blitz pickups he had from coming across the formation so that's a plus.

The members of the C-Mike cult have said McFadden is terrible despite him only averaging about 7 carries per game prior to this past game.

I'm not sure anybody said C-Mike was terrible. Many have just said he didn't do anything to wow us as promised by his fan club. I still think he has some ability but was way over hyped by some fans.

 

[Aven8]

The members of the C-Mike cult have said McFadden is terrible despite him only averaging about 7 carries per game prior to this past game.

I'm not sure anybody said C-Mike was terrible. Many have just said he didn't do anything to wow us as promised by his fan club. I still think he has some ability but was way over hyped by some fans.

It wasn't overhype so much, as just the unknown, similar to the Gus Johnson hype in PS. We knew what we had/have wasn't that great so we wanted a new toy. And while we're on the subject, with the stretch holes the Oline were opening up the other night, my bet is Cmike or Randle would have had similar output.

Cmike still is unknown, just as we all thought Dmac was a bum just a week ago. Until you can actually feed the kid the rock we won't know, but 1 or 5 carries isn't enough for any back.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Randle has never rushed for over 100 yards this season. He had every chance to do so but never got hot like MacFadden. The reason is that Randle is a home run hitter. But he strikes out a lot and is nothing more than a change of pace back.

Our oline is the same as last year. Thus its not their fault that Randle dances too much in the back field and doesn't hit the hole hard enough. Randle is the problem with our run game.

Everyone is having big time RB rueage this year over Chris Johnson. He's crushing it. After all, he can walk on water...right?

Anyway Johnson is at 5.1 and Randle is at 4.1 on 76 carries for 315 yards. So if Randle had matched that 5.1 and was now sitting 76 carries for 388 yards would you be happy? Over 76 more yards or 15 yards per game not even counting last week?

 

[DMAC]

McFadden was have success way before he got to 29 carries. He had success on his first 6. It was not more carries that made him successful in this game. It was better blocking and the threat of a passing game.

Historically, even in college, he gets better as he gets more touches and finds his rhythm. No necessarily this past Sunday.

 

[xwalker]

Historically, even in college, he gets better as he gets more touches and finds his rhythm. No necessarily this past Sunday.

I watched all of his carries from last season after the Cowboys signed him. That was not true from him last season. He was actually his best in 3 games when he was the backup.

He was almost always hugely successful in college in his first 10 carries.