Julius Jones Can Be Easily Replaced In The Draft

[Hostile]

Julius Jones can be easily replaced in the draft by Marshawn Lynch or Adrian Peterson or Chris Henry

:laugh2:

No wait.

 

[Stash]

Julius Jones can be easily replaced in the draft by Marshawn Lynch or Adrian Peterson or Chris Henry

Or maybe with some free agent who's already signed with another team, right?



Like there's a chance that this team can get either Lynch or Peterson........

And oh yeah, let's use our first round pick to fill the hole we create by trading our starting running back for a third rounder!

 

[zrinkill]

:laugh2::laugh2:

 

[Jarv]

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I like Tyson Thompson. He was a 2nd year guy improving from a small school with little experience. He could be a shocker to us all this year.

Oh, as to the thread, keep all 3 backs.

 

[Bizwah]

Have we all forgotten our team history?

I'd trade any player for the right price....ANY player....(ahem, Walker)

That being said, I don't think we'd get the right price for Julius. If rumors are correct, and we're being offered a third, then I say forget it. Plus, we can't have any trade rumor on this board unless it involves Dexter Coakley.

Julius can still be a good back. Sometimes it takes a while for running backs to come into their own. Look no further than Priest Holmes or even Thomas Jones.

No, I'm for giving JJ another year unless we're blown away with a trade offer. Even if JJ walks next season, we'll be ok. RBs can be had in any draft. They're much easier to find than other positions, and don't need to be groomed (like a QB or WR).

 

[Hostile]

Exactly.

That's why I said this earlier;

That supports my point SP that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Look, I'd love to have Stephen Jackson here. Ask anyone who was in the Draft chat that day. I endured weeks of "he won't be there at 24" only to see him be there at 24 and then we traded down. I nearly passed out. In truth that may be where I was through with Parcells. I'm not sure.

Let's look at some facts...

Rushing yards
Dallas...1936
St. Louis...1805

Rushing TDs
Dallas...21
St. Louis...13

Fumbles/fumbles lost
Dallas...14/6
St. Louis...15/8

From where I sit, what we have in a 2 RB system is out producing the 1 RB system with the guy I wanted. Now I see us working to improve the OL, having Romo for an entire year, and gettign aggressive on Defense.

At what point does it make sense to change how we've been running the ball? I say this fully agreeing that I'd take Marshawn Lynch if he's there. If...

I see no guarantees here.

 

[Hostile]

Or maybe with some free agent who's already signed with another team, right?



Like there's a chance that this team can get either Lynch or Peterson........

And oh yeah, let's use our first round pick to fill the hole we create by trading our starting running back for a third rounder!

That's the part that just baffles me.

 

[CowboyChris]

my response to this thread is......we are finally going to see the real Julius carrying the ball, i really feel while BP was here, JJ was restricted, there were alot of times, i wished JJ wouldve broke it back to the outside, and for some reason he just went straight ahead for a yard or 2. so my vote is NO to trading Julius, personally i would like to see him catch more screens and have MB3 relieving him in short yardage and goal line situations.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Let's all face facts. Julius Jones is NOTHING SPECIAL. He can be replaced in the draft with relative ease. He will never be much more than adequate. This guy will never come close to ES or TD, he'll never be one of the greats---plus his contract is up. Time to move the guy in my opinion. One good run every 4 games or so, ain't cuttin' it. Plus he's dinged up far to often. Time to upgrade at the RB position. Dump JuJones now. Thoughts?

Where do you come up with these posts???

Do you think these up or do your kids?

All I have to do is read the title and I know who posted it.

Thats not a good thing either.

 

[jeffreyweinstein33]

Let's all face facts. Julius Jones is NOTHING SPECIAL. He can be replaced in the draft with relative ease. He will never be much more than adequate. This guy will never come close to ES or TD, he'll never be one of the greats---plus his contract is up. Time to move the guy in my opinion. One good run every 4 games or so, ain't cuttin' it. Plus he's dinged up far to often. Time to upgrade at the RB position. Dump JuJones now. Thoughts?

You don't really know football if you think JJ is a utility player. He is somewhat of a run by the numbers guy. If the play is off tackle left that is where he goes. If the hole is there he can and has taken it to the house. If the hole is closed, he does not improvise well. That is my only gripe with him. Easily replaced, I don't think so. Remember Troy Hambrick, Swurving Curving, Cason, etc. etc. We have gone through a lot of guys who are ordinary JJ may not be Emmitt but he ain't Cason either.

 

[TheProphet]

Serious question for those wanting to trade Julius. (See how this can be asked in an EXISTING thread on the topic? Amazing huh?)

First let's set up some facts...

Last year this offense scored 425 points (2 points behind Chicago & Indianapolis, 3 points from 2nd in the NFL), was 3rd in rushing TDs in the NFL, 4th best at not fumbling and at not giving up fumbles, and 13th in the NFL in rushing yardage.

All of this despite a so so Offensive Line.

And now the hook...

Clearly what this offense is doing works, and we have now solidified our Offensive Line. Why is trading our leading rusher at the top of your list of things we absolutely have to do?

Because we can do better. JuJones hasn't shown he is durable enough to take the load full time. He has flashes of greatness, but he is not consistant. Being 13th in the league in rushing is hardly something to support your arguement that all is fine with JuJones. Barber gets most the credit for the TD rushes.
It is no mystery that the premier teams all have an excellent running attack. Our proud legacy support this as well. How many SB's have we won with a middling RB? How many championship runs have we had with a middling back? Answer, el zippo.

In the case of JuJones, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then guess what? It must be a duck!

 

[Hostile]

Because we can do better. JuJones hasn't shown he is durable enough to take the load full time. He has flashes of greatness, but he is not consistant. Being 13th in the league in rushing is hardly something to support your arguement that all is fine with JuJones. Barber gets most the credit for the TD rushes.
It is no mystery that the premier teams all have an excellent running attack. Our proud legacy support this as well. How many SB's have we won with a middling RB? How many championship runs have we had with a middling back? Answer, el zippo.

In the case of JuJones, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then guess what? It must be a duck!

Instead of spouting off with all of this not funny nonsense and then laughing at your own wittiness, why don't you wow me with your football acumen and explain how this is guaranteed and easily done as your tag team partner aludes and you apparently agree. Impress me for a change instead of depress me.

If you can. No, I won't be holding my breath.

 

[Rampage]

give jj 1 more year to return to form(rookie year). when i say "form" i don't mean having all those 120+ yard games. i mean his style of running. his rookie year style was hitting the holes hard, bouncing outside when a play looked dead. his style the past 2 years has been being a piledriver. so give him 1 more year cause rb is one of the easier positions to replace

 

[TheProphet]

Instead of spouting off with all of this not funny nonsense and then laughing at your own wittiness, why don't you wow me with your football acumen and explain how this is guaranteed and easily done as your tag team partner aludes and you apparently agree. Impress me for a change instead of depress me.

If you can. No, I won't be holding my breath.

You seem to think that it is not worth the risk to even try to do better. There are no guarantees, and I have not claimed such, but the bottom line is that the bar is not currently raised very high with JuJones despite what a few of you fellas think. You seem to think that we should keep him around because he is "adequate". Sorry, but I disagree as "adequate" shouldn't cut it for the Dallas Cowboys. If that opens me up to your sarcasm, then so be it.
If an interesting option is available to us on draft day, then we should take it. There have been many draft day busts in the RB position, just as there has been many diamonds in the rough discovered outside the first round.

You seem awfully prickly today. Everything alright?

 

[TheProphet]

give jj 1 more year to return to form(rookie year). when i say "form" i don't mean having all those 120+ yard games. i mean his style of running. his rookie year style was hitting the holes hard, bouncing outside when a play looked dead. his style the past 2 years has been being a piledriver. so give him 1 more year cause rb is one of the easier positions to replace

Bottom line, just as you say, he is easily replaceable at this point. I'm sick of waiting for a supposed break out year for him. He's adequate at best..

 

[Stash]

You seem to think that it is not worth the risk to even try to do better. There are no guarantees, and I have not claimed such, but the bottom line is that the bar is not currently raised very high with JuJones despite what a few of you fellas think. You seem to think that we should keep him around because he is "adequate". Sorry, but I disagree as "adequate" shouldn't cut it for the Dallas Cowboys. If that opens me up to your sarcasm, then so be it.
If an interesting option is available to us on draft day, then we should take it. There have been many draft day busts in the RB position, just as there has been many diamonds in the rough discovered outside the first round.

You seem awfully prickly today. Everything alright?

Maybe he's as tired of the "Dumb and Dumber" act as the rest of us?

:shake:

 

[DallasEast]

Being 13th in the league in rushing is hardly something to support your arguement that all is fine with JuJones. Barber gets most the credit for the TD rushes.

Barber is a short yardage back. His touchdown runs were:

TD #1: Washington/Game 1 - Barber 1-yard touchdown run
TD #2: Tennessee - Barber 1-yard touchdown run
TD #3: Philadelphia – Barber 2-yard touchdown run
TD #4: Houston - Barber 1-yard touchdown run
TD #5: Carolina – Barber 3-yard touchdown run
TD #6: Carolina – Barber 14-yard touchdown run
TD #7: Arizona – Barber 5-yard touchdown run
TD #8: Indianapolis – Barber 5-yard touchdown run
TD #9: Indianapolis – Barber 1-yard touchdown run
TD #10: New York Giants – Barber 1-yard touchdown run
TD #11: New York Giants - Barber 7-yard touchdown run
TD #12: Atlanta - Barber 9-yard touchdown run
TD #13: Atlanta - Barber 3-yard touchdown run

He averaged a little over four yards to paydirt on all of his touchdown runs. That's what a short yardage back's job is. That's why Parcells pulled Jones off the field for just those types of situations. If Parcells ran a 1-back offense, perhaps he would have allowed Jones the opportunity to run for those touchdowns, but he emphasized a 2-back offense. How can Barber's touchdowns be held against Jones?

 

[Hostile]

You seem to think that it is not worth the risk to even try to do better. There are no guarantees, and I have not claimed such, but the bottom line is that the bar is not currently raised very high with JuJones despite what a few of you fellas think. You seem to think that we should keep him around because he is "adequate". Sorry, but I disagree as "adequate" shouldn't cut it for the Dallas Cowboys. If that opens me up to your sarcasm, then so be it.

The first backtrack of the day. Try not to strip your gears switching directions so fast.

Here's your first comment to me...

Because we can do better.

Yet now, "there are no guarantees." That's convenient. So the idea isn't to come up with a better solution, it's just to once again piss on a current player and moan about a topic with no clear idea how to make it better.

Oh and take a good long look at my earlier posts. I clearly said Lynch would be an improvement. BTW that is the benchmark for me, improvement. I'm not interested in a lateral move, not a step backwards. You've not offered any plausible nor possible solution and neither has your tag team partner. Don't forget it is his contention that this task of replacing him is "easy."

Sorry, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.

If an interesting option is available to us on draft day, then we should take it. There have been many draft day busts in the RB position, just as there has been many diamonds in the rough discovered outside the first round.

I get it, we should take an option that might turn out to be a bust. Brilliant. I stand in awe of this great idea.

You seem awfully prickly today. Everything alright?

Well, what can I tell ya, my username doesn't say Huggy Bear. I often get "prickly" at the piss and moan threads. I'm just funny that way.

 

[TheProphet]

The first backtrack of the day. Try not to strip your gears switching directions so fast.

Here's your first comment to me...

Yet now, "there are no guarantees." That's convenient. So the idea isn't to come up with a better solution, it's just to once again piss on a current player and moan about a topic with no clear idea how to make it better.

Oh and take a good long look at my earlier posts. I clearly said Lynch would be an improvement. BTW that is the benchmark for me, improvement. I'm not interested in a lateral move, not a step backwards. You've not offered any plausible nor possible solution and neither has your tag team partner. Don't forget it is his contention that this task of replacing him is "easy."

Sorry, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.

I get it, we should take an option that might turn out to be a bust. Brilliant. I stand in awe of this great idea.

Well, what can I tell ya, my username doesn't say Huggy Bear. I often get "prickly" at the piss and moan threads. I'm just funny that way.

Thanks, as always, for your thoughts. The chances of drafting someone with the minimum of JuJones skills seems pretty good to me as like I said, JuJones has not raised the bar very high. I'm willing to take the chance, and you are not. We therefore disagree. No big deal. Like I've stated repeatedly, I'm sick of waiting for JuJones' big breakout year. Maybe this upcoming season will prove me wrong, but I've based my opinion only on what I've seen on the field.
I hope we do draft a RB who has potential. It would be fun to compare notes with you at the end of next season if we did.

 

[burmafrd]

Well, Prophet, why don't you go and check drafts for the last 10 years and see how many backs do not EVER gain 1000 yds. Maybe you could learn something.