Julius Jones Can Be Easily Replaced In The Draft

[Hostile]

Thanks, as always, for your thoughts. The chances of drafting someone with the minimum of JuJones skills seems pretty good to me as like I said, JuJones has not raised the bar very high. I'm willing to take the chance, and you are not. We therefore disagree. No big deal. Like I've stated repeatedly, I'm sick of waiting for JuJones' big breakout year. Maybe this upcoming season will prove me wrong, but I've based my opinion only on what I've seen on the field.
I hope we do draft a RB who has potential. It would be fun to compare notes with you at the end of next season if we did.

Once again I throw the challenge out there to wow me with this idea and how to make it work. The question is, will you actually try this time or just more piss and moan?

I'm not impressed by repeated mantras simply restated. Yeah, I already got it. Now, lay out a plan to fix it.

If you can.

 

[TheProphet]

You don't really know football if you think JJ is a utility player. He is somewhat of a run by the numbers guy. If the play is off tackle left that is where he goes. If the hole is there he can and has taken it to the house. If the hole is closed, he does not improvise well. That is my only gripe with him. Easily replaced, I don't think so. Remember Troy Hambrick, Swurving Curving, Cason, etc. etc. We have gone through a lot of guys who are ordinary JJ may not be Emmitt but he ain't Cason either.

No JuJones is no Cason...he's sort of like a slight upgrade of Hambrick.
Sorry just because we've had a run of middling to bad RB's ever since ES does not mean we should be satisfied with just a very ordinary JuJones.
As long a JJ is selecting the groceries, we will continue to be challenged in the player selection area.

 

[TDH]

my response to this thread is......we are finally going to see the real Julius carrying the ball, i really feel while BP was here, JJ was restricted, there were alot of times, i wished JJ wouldve broke it back to the outside, and for some reason he just went straight ahead for a yard or 2. so my vote is NO to trading Julius, personally i would like to see him catch more screens and have MB3 relieving im in short yardage and goal line situations.

Yeah...it was big bad bill that told jj he'd better NEVER make the first man miss. It was big bad evil bill that told Sir Julius to have happy feet, never hit the hole hard, and have absolutely no vision whatsoever. Some of you guys crack me up with how much you wanna blame bill for our teams play last yr. Fact is, alot of it lies with the players themselves. In this case, I suspect we will all see this year exactly what JJ is (adequate at best) w/o bill, but of course, that doesnt mean that those who are supporting him now will stop this "flashes of greatness" nonsense. (some long gains your rookie year on DRAWS does not = "flashes of greatness")

 

[Stash]

Thanks, as always, for your thoughts. The chances of drafting someone with the minimum of JuJones skills seems pretty good to me as like I said, JuJones has not raised the bar very high. I'm willing to take the chance, and you are not. We therefore disagree. No big deal. Like I've stated repeatedly, I'm sick of waiting for JuJones' big breakout year. Maybe this upcoming season will prove me wrong, but I've based my opinion only on what I've seen on the field.
I hope we do draft a RB who has potential. It would be fun to compare notes with you at the end of next season if we did.

More of the mindless "poke and hope" strategy.

Let's bash Jones but provide nothing as a viable alternative.

Let's just complain about what we do have and call anything we don't have better.

Let's cause a team need where at present we don't have one.

 

[montgod]

I will just paste a link to my response to the other thread on this subject: http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84070&page=5

And to add, at this juncture, do you think the only thing the Boys need to reach the SB is a superstar RB? Because in the end, that is the question you need to ask yourself. If you give up JJ, what do you have in return and how close have you made your team to get to the SB without him?

As other's have stated, Parcells didn't necessarily run JJ as much as he could. If you look at MB's stats, most of those TDs could have easily been had by JJ if Parcells would have let him get in there. Not only that, but MB still hasn't been totally proven. As a duo though, they are proven and ready to come into their own imo.

So, if think Dallas was just a RB away from the SB, then sure, you go and get one...and even if you do, most likely it would not be an unproven rookie (for those AP supporters). At if this was the case, which I don't think it is, who would you get at this juncture? No one who is available is better then JJ, that is a fact so why even venture to believe a rookie can duplicate or be better at this stage then JJones? It's just not logical.

What Dallas needs is to focus on it's weaknesses and come in next year and get the job done to get to the SB and win. RB isn't one of the areas of weakness so why waste time talking about it just because it seems like a hot subject or because it's a very visible position. It's not a weakness, move on.

JJones isn't Emmitt, but he sure isn't a bum either. He gets the job done and I think he will do even better with more reps next year. Watch Barber and Jones next year when they are in the second year of being a rb duo. I think you will be pleasantly surprised, rather then waiting to see IF... IF whoever replaces JJones can do the same job or better.

 

[Hostile]

More of the mindless "poke and hope" strategy.

Let's bash Jones but provide nothing as a viable alternative.

Let's just complain about what we do have and call anything we don't have better.

Let's cause a team need where at present we don't have one.

Right on the friggin' :money: Stash.

 

[bbgun]

Like I said last week, better the devil you know. JJ is above average, but his replacement might very well be worse.

 

[Rampage]

the dallas cowboys have the 3rd best starting rb in the division. that's a problem

 

[Hostile]

the dallas cowboys have the 3rd best starting rb in the division. that's a problem

Got a plan to fix the problem, or you just piling in on the piss and moan session?

 

[zrinkill]

Maybe he's as tired of the "Dumb and Dumber" act as the rest of us?

:shake:

Yup ......

 

[Rampage]

Got a plan to fix the problem, or you just piling in on the piss and moan session?

draft O grumpy wise one

 

[TheProphet]

Once again I throw the challenge out there to wow me with this idea and how to make it work. The question is, will you actually try this time or just more piss and moan?

I'm not impressed by repeated mantras simply restated. Yeah, I already got it. Now, lay out a plan to fix it.

If you can.

What the heck are you looking for guy?? Names of potential draftees?

Any of the top prospects works for me. One of those guys should still be around by 22nd (Adrian Peterson - a pipe dream, Marshawn Lynch, Chris Henry, Tony Hunt, Lynell Hamilton, Michael Bush, Kenny Irons, Courtney Bush ). The great JuJones that you keep saying we best have someone better if we are going to replace, was a whopping 2nd rounder. Again, he has shown nothing but flashes. Is your postion that you are also up for resigning him to a fat contract next year? Shouldn't we start making arrangements to replace him NOW?
For all you and I know, Jones may well be gone even before draft day...which I am fine with.

 

[dbair1967]

Julius Jones can be easily replaced in the draft by Marshawn Lynch or Adrian Peterson or Chris Henry

I know I really didnt just read this

David

 

[Hostile]

draft O grumpy wise one

Draft who O big bad one?

Do you have a plan or just flapping your gums to air them out like the rest of the get rid of Julius crowd?

 

[dbair1967]

What the heck are you looking for guy?? Names of potential draftees?

Any of the top prospects works for me. One of those guys should still be around by 22nd (Adrian Peterson - a pipe dream, Marshawn Lynch, Chris Henry, Tony Hunt, Lynell Hamilton, Michael Bush, Kenny Irons, Courtney Bush ). The great JuJones that you keep saying we best have someone better if we are going to replace, was a whopping 2nd rounder. Again, he has shown nothing but flashes.
For all you and I know, Jones may well be gone even before draft day...which I am fine with.

please...Chris Henry??Tony Hunt? Michael Bush? Courtney Bush?????

gimmee a freaking break...

David

 

[superpunk]

That supports my point SP that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Look, I'd love to have Stephen Jackson here. Ask anyone who was in the Draft chat that day. I endured weeks of "he won't be there at 24" only to see him be there at 24 and then we traded down. I nearly passed out. In truth that may be where I was through with Parcells. I'm not sure.

Let's look at some facts...

Rushing yards
Dallas...1936
St. Louis...1805

Rushing TDs
Dallas...21
St. Louis...13

Fumbles/fumbles lost
Dallas...14/6
St. Louis...15/8

From where I sit, what we have in a 2 RB system is out producing the 1 RB system with the guy I wanted. Now I see us working to improve the OL, having Romo for an entire year, and gettign aggressive on Defense.

At what point does it make sense to change how we've been running the ball? I say this fully agreeing that I'd take Marshawn Lynch if he's there. If...

I see no guarantees here.

There aren't any guarantees anywhere.

If given the opportunity, I'd rather roll the dice and get a guy like a Steven Jackson, and have Barber back him up than continue to plod along with mediocrity.

If that opportunity never arises, you do the best you can with the hand you're dealt, and hope Julius suddenly becomes dynamic. That's just not my preference for next year. But we may not have a choice.

 

[Rampage]

Draft who O big bad one?

Do you have a plan or just flapping your gums to air them out like the rest of the get rid of Julius crowd?

what do you want? names? blood types? urine samples?

 

[Stash]

What the heck are you looking for guy?? Names of potential draftees?

Any of the top prospects works for me. One of those guys should still be around by 22nd (Adrian Peterson - a pipe dream, Marshawn Lynch, Chris Henry, Tony Hunt, Lynell Hamilton, Michael Bush, Kenny Irons, Courtney Bush ). The great JuJones that you keep saying we best have someone better if we are going to replace, was a whopping 2nd rounder. Again, he has shown nothing but flashes. Is your postion that you are also up for resigning him to a fat contract next year? Shouldn't we start making arrangements to replace him NOW?
For all you and I know, Jones may well be gone even before draft day...which I am fine with.

Good thing you picked up that draft guide so you had names to put into the "Replace Julius Jones with _______" spot.

:write:

 

[Hostile]

What the heck are you looking for guy?? Names of potential draftees?

Yes, that would be called a "plan." Honestly it isn't rocket science.

Any of the top prospects works for me. One of those guys should still be around by 22nd (Adrian Peterson - a pipe dream, Marshawn Lynch, Chris Henry, Tony Hunt, Lynell Hamilton, Michael Bush, Kenny Irons, Courtney Bush ). The great JuJones that you keep saying we best have someone better if we are going to replace, was a whopping 2nd rounder. Again, he has shown nothing but flashes.

Oh good, the throw out names but don't detail how they are acquired method.I didn't see that coming.

For all you and I know, Jones may well be gone even before draft day...which I am fine with.

Yeah, Jerry Jones has assured this is going to be the case.

 

[Yeagermeister]

There aren't any guarantees anywhere.

If given the opportunity, I'd rather roll the dice and get a guy like a Steven Jackson, and have Barber back him up than continue to plod along with mediocrity.

If that opportunity never arises, you do the best you can with the hand you're dealt, and hope Julius suddenly becomes dynamic. That's just not my preference for next year. But we may not have a choice.

If we draft Jackson what makes you think we'd have drafted Barber the next year? There is no guaranty Parcells picks him.