La'el Collins Thread - Cleared post 767; visited Cowboys - 05/06/15

[reddyuta]

I hope he doesnt go to NFC team if he doesnt sign with us,that would be unfortunate.

 

[IAmLegend]

Cowboys and Seahawks are the only "contenders" that can offer him a place to live with no State Income Tax. If that matters to him.

 

[DBOY3141]

I thought all UDFA contracts are for 3 years? Pretty sure thats accurate. I've read at least 20 teams are prepared to offer him a fully guaranteed 3 year minimum deal so I don't think contract figures will be a factor.



UDFAs can sign an extension after 2 years as opposed to the drafted players who can only extend after the 3rd year. There would be no reason to tell him this. After his 2nd season tell him you'll look to extend him. Thats what he would want to hear. I sincerely doubt a team is just going to cut him after next year and limit their ability to re-sign him when they can exclusively look to extend him anyways.

I'm sure his agent knows all the rules and they are looking at his next deal vs this one.

 

[DBOY3141]

Cowboys and Seahawks are the only "contenders" that can offer him a place to live with no State Income Tax. If that matters to him.

I think Carolina could be one to watch. He could start and I think he and Trai Turner are pretty good friends, who the Panthers drafted last year.

 

[fishspill]

I'm sure his agent knows all the rules and they are looking at his next deal vs this one.

I'm figuring with the pieces we'll need to sign on the OL around that time he won't be able to count on getting the deal he'll want. I'd just assume we aren't on his radar because of this.

 

[IAmLegend]

I think Carolina could be one to watch. He could start and I think he and Trai Turner are pretty good friends, who the Panthers drafted last year.

Good point.

 

[Nightman]

@bkight13 The Cowboys didn't give Leary a large signing bonus they only guaranteed a large portion of his base salary. His signing bonus was $9k while they guaranteed $205k of his base salary. Thats similar to what Collins is likely to get except his base salary will likely be fully guaranteed. Teams only have 86k total to split amoung all udfa in signing bonus, but can guarantee any portion of his base salary.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4693534/cowboys-paid-undrafted-ronald-leary

Thanks for the clarification. I knew they couldn't offer more than 88k to all their UDFAs but I thought they changed the rule after Leary.

Most teams will probably guarantee his full 3yr/1.5m contract

 

[DBOY3141]

I'm figuring with the pieces we'll need to sign on the OL around that time he won't be able to count on getting the deal he'll want. I'd just assume we aren't on his radar because of this.

yep, Fred and Martin are going to get paid.

 

[AzorAhai]

Thanks for the clarification. I knew they couldn't offer more than 88k to all their UDFAs but I thought they changed the rule after Leary.

Most teams will probably guarantee his full 3yr/1.5m contract

I've read multiple times on twitter at least 20 teams are prepared to do just that. He'll have plenty of teams to consider thats for sure.

 

[IAmLegend]

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Belichik works his magic and this kid wins up a Patriot. They need O-Line help as bad as anybody.

 

[btcutter]

Thanks for the clarification. I knew they couldn't offer more than 88k to all their UDFAs but I thought they changed the rule after Leary.

Most teams will probably guarantee his full 3yr/1.5m contract

GM will have to do better than that. JJ has to be creative in working in some guarantee that if he becomes a starter or even contribute significantly that he will rip up that contract and pay him properly.

 

[reddyuta]

one of the thing working against maybe we will have to pay Fred and martin big money ,Collins might think he has better chance of a big payday elsewhere.

 

[tyke1doe]

Cowboys, Texans, Dolphins, Buccaneers, Jags and Seahawks are the only "contenders" that can offer him a place to live with no State Income Tax. If that matters to him.

There's a state income tax in Florida.

My bad: You did say "contenders". Some would argue the Texans are contenders also.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

FTFY.

There's a state income tax in Florida.

They're not contenders.

 

[tyke1doe]

They're not contenders.

Yeah, I caught my error. That's why it's good to read twice.

 

[Nightman]

GM will have to do better than that. JJ has to be creative in working in some guarantee that if he becomes a starter or even contribute significantly that he will rip up that contract and pay him properly.

I don't think they can rip up the contract for an UDFA. It is a 3yr/1.5m deal no matter what.

They can extend his deal after two years instead of 3 years for draftees, but I don't think he can cash in until year 4 at the earliest. But even then they can only offer him around 4m as RFA on a first round tender. Another team could sign him to an offer sheet, but they would have to give up a first as well.

They don't want top players to make an end run around the draft. If would lead to a ton of guys saying "don't draft me or I will sit out"

 

[cheftjpeck]

There's a state income tax in Florida.

My bad: You did say "contenders". Some would argue the Texans are contenders also.

FWIW
Florida does not have a state income tax

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Former LSU tackle and undrafted free agent La'el Collins was questioned by police in Baton Rouge, La. on Monday. The 21-year-old, however, is still not being considered a suspect in the murder investigation of his former girlfriend Brittney Mills, Baton Rouge (La.) Police said.

Collins sat with investigators for over an hour.

"There is that possibility of more questioning of Mr. Collins," Baton Rouge Police public information officer Don Coppola said Monday per the USA Today. "No one can be ruled out until an arrest has been made."

Mills was shot to death late last month and through his relationship with her, Collins was requested by police to give any additional details. Because of the cloud of uncertainty, Collins, once a projected first-round pick in the NFL Draft, was not selected over the weekend.

"The investigation is going to continue, and La'el is going to now start making efforts to get his football career back on track," Collins' attorney Jim Boren said. "He answered all the questions they had. Every question. We didn't claim the fifth (refusal to answer a question as it may incriminate). We answered every single question. We gave them all the information they asked for, and he's ready to get his life back."

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...l-collins-questioned-by-police-in-murder-case

 

[Joe Realist]

i don't think we need this on this team - even if he is clean

 

[CCBoy]

Lawyer says La’el Collins met with police, answered all their questions
Posted by Michael David Smith on May 4, 2015, 1:36 PM EDT

Getty Images
The attorney for La’El Collins says he met with police today and is fully cooperating in the investigation of the murder of his pregnant ex-girlfriend.

“It went fine; we answered all their questions,” attorney Jim Boren told the Times-Picayune. “La’el is not going to make any comments. I’m not going to have any comments. The investigation is going to continue. La’el is now going to start making an effort to start getting his football career back on track.”

Asked if he thinks Collins will be cleared, Boren replied, “Only the police can answer that question. In my mind he’s been cleared from the very beginning. I think he’s not a suspect. He answered all the questions they had. Every question, we didn’t claim the fifth. We answered every single question. We gave them all the information they asked for. He’s ready to get his life back.”

Collins is under no legal obligation to say anything, but he knows that the only way he’s going to be able to convince an NFL team to sign him is if he can show that he was not involved in the deaths of Brittney Mills and her baby. Collins was expected to be a first-round draft pick until news of Mills’s death surfaced last week. If he’s exonerated he’ll be perhaps the most sought-after undrafted free agent in NFL history.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...met-with-police-answered-all-their-questions/