Lance still working on his game

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16 games as the starter in college and 3 years of practice time.

Not nothing, but a lot less than most QBs coming out of college into the draft.

Can't complain about his business sense. Got the 3rd pick in the draft. But for his injuries and the fluke of Purdy, he'd still be the QB in SF.
Yes. He advances quickly.

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“a person who is outstandingly talented or admired, especially an up-and-comer.”
 

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Trey Lance only played 4 games where he got double digit attempts.

His QB rating was 110+ in two and 50+ in two. His YPA for the wins was 10+. He also ran a lot and got significant yardage.

He has played very well and very poorly.

Maybe they can train him up. But even as is, I'll take 50% chance of good starter play out of a backup.

Running QBs are ideal as backups, IMO. A running QB is a significant add to the offense. The downside is long term injury risk. But I'll take the add for higher production out of the backup and not care about long term injury risk for a backup.

It's 50-50 whether the poor games or the good games were the aberration, and those odds should only improve as he gets more experience. I'm not penciling Lance in becoming a good starter, but there's a good chance he'll get there someday, particularly if he can stick with a team for a few years. Sticking with the team for years is how Cooper became a competent backup, IMO. It wasn't arm talent or foot speed.

Back to Lance, he's a decent backup already based on his record, and has upside to a starter.

Signing Lance was a very good risk/reward move by our GM.
he has to beat Rush for back up and that has to happen in 2024. in 2025, his option will cost $25M. if he hasn't shown enough by then to be a future starting QB, then no way in heck we should sign a back up to 25M.
 

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16 games as the starter in college and 3 years of practice time.

Not nothing, but a lot less than most QBs coming out of college into the draft.

Can't complain about his business sense. Got the 3rd pick in the draft. But for his injuries and the fluke of Purdy, he'd still be the QB in SF.
and SF would be struggling to make playoffs with him.
 

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Yes. He advances quickly.

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“a person who is outstandingly talented or admired, especially an up-and-comer.”
and tby your own definition above, that doesn't apply to lance. he is not a QB talent, now three years in we know his college draft grade was a mistake. he is not an up-and-comer. he is actually faded as he went from the next best thing to 3rd stringer on his original team then got traded for a 4th rounder. that's going backwards.
 

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and tby your own definition above, that doesn't apply to lance. he is not a QB talent, now three years in we know his college draft grade was a mistake. he is not an up-and-comer. he is actually faded as he went from the next best thing to 3rd stringer on his original team then got traded for a 4th rounder. that's going backwards.
The story has not played out enough for you to make such absolute determination.
 

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he is not a QB talent, now three years in we know his college draft grade was a mistake. he is not an up-and-comer. he is actually faded as he went from the next best thing to 3rd stringer on his original team then got traded for a 4th rounder. that's going backwards.
Hasn't been proven yet. We will find out next summer.
 

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The story has not played out enough for you to make such absolute determination.
well, so far by the results and what has transpired with him over the last few years, I am much closer to the truth, than wishful thinking of a few clicking their heels and wishing they were back in kansas. this ain't the yeloow brick road
 

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Hasn't been proven yet. We will find out next summer.
it has been proven so far that he is not talented as his draft status. in fact the team that gave up so much to get him, plain gave up and took a 4th rounder, two years into his career.

so yeah, so far, he is nothing but a long shot. gamble
 

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well, so far by the results and what has transpired with him over the last few years, I am much closer to the truth, than wishful thinking of a few clicking their heels and wishing they were back in kansas. this ain't the yeloow brick road
Okay man. Whatever makes you happy. If thinking like about your opinion makes you happy...by all means!
 

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At the time of the trade, Purdy's backup was Sam Darnold, not Trey Lance so even if Purdy was a flash in the pan, Lance would not have been the next in line. So that debunks your comment. The 49ers realized they were never going to get their investment back for Lance so they took what the Cowboys offered. That doesn't mean they thought any less of Lance, it's just the price of doing business. Lance is still able to develop into a starting QB. Go ahead with your assumptions but they are wrong.
The fact that Darnold was the backup proves my comment. Lance couldn’t even beat out Darnold who was a bust. Lance was given an opportunity at both the starting and backup jobs and failed. The 49ers saw no hope in Lance and offered him in a trade. The best they could get was a 4th round pick and jumped at it. The jury is still out on Lance but the odds of him developing into a solid starting QB are slim. With the QB we have he’s not going to get an opportunity to start unless he wins the backup job and there’s an injury. We don’t agree so it’s best we move on.
 

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Tony Romo didn't throw a regulation pass until his 4th season. He wasn't activated a single game his rookie season.

Parcells not only developed him, but he made sure to put Romo in a situation where he had a fair opportunity to succeed. It paid off.

Only two HC's in history have developed quarterbacks who ended up as starters after not throwing a single pass for at least their first two seasons. Those two HC's are Bill Parcells and Tom Landry. Romo was the 2nd time Parcells did this. The first time was with Jeff Hostetler. Landry did this with Gary Hogeboom.

Forget Trey Lance's draft position, it was clearly an error on the 49ers part. He only played in 17 college games. Realistically, he probably should have been a 2nd round pick.

We will see if he is worth the trouble next preseason.
Don't forget Danny White, although he did start as the punter for a few seasons, sat on the bench as QB
 
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