Lance Wasn't As Disappointing As Some Want To Believe Considering The Circumstances

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MountaineerCowboy said:
Dak fans are vastly overreacting to this game because they want Lance to fail because they, for some reason, think that's going to make Dak not chase the money next off season.

Lance wasn't bad. He protected the ball, was our leading rusher, and was trying to pass to people that won't be on a NFL roster in a month.

He'll be better next game and the Dak over Dallas fans will be back into panic mode.
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I felt like it was nearly impossible to grade him out there while he was running for his life most of the game, and like you said, throwing to a bunch of used car salesmen. He had some nice runs but we already knew he could do that. I certainly would not give up on him after 1 lackluster showing under those circumstances, but I'm leaning more towards we need to focus just as much on the next 2 drafts to find our true qb of the future.

Maybe he shows enough to get signed to a 2 year deal and either leads us to a top draft pick or lightning finally strikes him and he turns into an elite qb. So far, I'd say it's more likely going to be the former, but we'll see.
 
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Sydla said:
I am not a Dak fan. I have been clear since the GB game that they should have gone to him and his agent and tried to get them to look for trade options. I am completely disinterested in arguments about whether he should be signed or let walk after this year. The Cowboys need a new direction IMO.

That being said............... propping up Lance as some viable alternative seems odd to me. Again, if this were the Giants and the Giants fans were trying to convince themselves Lance is a viable replacement for Daniel Jones, there is little doubt many of the Cowboys fans talking up Lance would be laughing their ***** off at the Giants. Lance gets leeway here for one reason and one reason only - he's not Dak. And that's the irony here - you are claiming the Dak fans are putting Lance down because they are protecting Dak, but you are only talking about Lance as a viable replacement because you don't like Dak.
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Lets get real and say there aren't THAT many people "propping up Lance",,as being able to replace and duplicate Dak's performance.

Once we put some levity and perspective on that...we can get somewhere.

lance was ALWAYS a long shot. A Gamble.

Lets throw OUT the extremes of Chasing6 and America Cowboy and have some honest sincere conversations.
 
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Nav22 said:
Right, Dak would've had garbage pocket presence and would've been sailing passes over the heads of receivers if he wasn't throwing to washed Dez, mediocre Terrance and Beasley the midget.

Keep humiliating yourself, Angus. I can't figure out why nobody takes you seriously!
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Dak had a great O'line and Zeke. Fred beard...AND Zeke?

Come on. man. What the....
 
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Sydla said:
I think the "hate" for Lance is more because people are propping him up as a legitimate alternative to Dak at this point, which is kind of preposterous.
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I don’t think that’s really true except for a select few. I think some people are curious to see what he has since he’s the highest rated prospect the team has had since Aikman was drafted. He was even rated as a high second round pick by the organization when he came out in the draft in 2021.

I think there are people hoping he’s a future viable alternative because they don’t want to the team to pay Dak 60 million and see another failure in the playoffs for several years, but I don’t think anyone has really any emotional investment in the kid like others do in the current QB.
 
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MountaineerCowboy said:
He wasn’t very good by any means, but you have to put some context to it.

He finished the game 25/41 for 188 yards (188 yards on 25 completions is not good) and he was our leading rusher with 44 yards. Zero turnovers.

Now, not great or even that good for that matter, I know.

But…

He didn’t have Lamb, Cooks, Ferguson, or even Hendershot and Tolbert to throw to.

He was throwing to some guys that will be selling cars in a month and it showed with some ugly drops. He also had some ugly passes. They were sailing high a lot, but a couple drops hit guys right in the chest (I’m looking at you McMath)

He didn’t have Zeke or Dowdle (done after the 1st series) in the run game. I don’t think this would’ve made much of a difference anyways.

That O-Line y’all said sucked last year? Lance was having to play with their back ups.

All that combined with a very vanilla playbook and probably being told not to run much as to avoid injury.

I’d like to see him with actual NFL players around him, but unfortunately Dallas gives all the starters the preseason off, so that’s not gonna happen.

He played better than Bennett, that’s for sure, but still he wasn’t great and needs to show more if he wants to get a chance next season.

My opinion remains that we need to draft a QB in the first round regardless of how Lance performs and let Lance and the rookie battle for the starting job next season. It's time, Jerry.
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Yup....been saying this. I am expecting him to look a lot better next game which I think will be the dress rehearsal.

I knew the outcome of this game when I saw who he was playing with. I don't know why we set him up for failure like this....
 
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If you don't like Dak. Cool. I don't care, but cool.

Just don't try to gas light me by attempting to say Trey Lance is any good.

If you think Dak sucks, then you should believe Lance sucks because in every possible measurement Dak >>>>>>>>> Lance.

Just to put it this way, even though Lance...
  1. Was on one of the best teams in the NFL
  2. With arguably the best offensive minded head coach in the NFL
  3. With weapons likes of Deebo Samuel, George Kittle and Brandon Aiyuk
Lance has a career stat line of:
  • 8 games
  • 4 starts
  • 56 completions
  • 102 attempts
  • 54.9% completion
  • 797 yards
  • 7.8 yards/attempt
  • 5 TDs
  • 3 Ints
Compare that to just Dak's rookie year, where Dak won AP Offensive Rookie of the Year, and Lance makes Dak look like Dan Marino.


At this point, I couldn't care less about where Dak plays next, or even this year, but please, don't try to tell me a guy who isn't even a real BACKUP QB, and that's just based off what he has done at the NFL level, is anything close to the answer.

Like I said in the chat. If Trey is our starting QB I might actually look forward to the Draft after he starts because Dallas would probably end up with the #1 pick.

That doesn't mean Jerry won't screw that up, but I will have several months of hope out of it.

Just sayin'
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Ken said:
Yup....been saying this. I am expecting him to look a lot better next game which I think will be the dress rehearsal.

I knew the outcome of this game when I saw who he was playing with. I don't know why we set him up for failure like this....
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I think it’s only a failure if you took it serious.

McCarthy clearly wasn’t taking it serious and it was more of a practice competition.
 
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Who he had never thrown to. Ever.

You keep omitting the fact that Lance knew he was starting this pre season.

Dak didn’t. And excelled. Lance looked like he was still in his room at Oxnard
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Ouch!!!

Just watch. None of them Dak haters will reply with a sound response to refute you, because there isn't one. Facts are the facts. Lance is simply not in Dak's league and never will be.
 
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