Let’s talk about Dak’s completion percentage

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Do you understand how silly this is? LOL

“He’s an MVP candidate...if he has great players surrounding him”

Holy crap haha

its a pretty funny defense from Dak lovers....give him a great WR. great OL, great RB, great TE and watch him be really good..... give any of the top 15 QBs those resources and they make that type of offense elite....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He was good enough to win. 24-28 for 280 yards is good enough for me. It was good enough for Aikman for a long time.

Trolls like you still think every QB should be Tom Brady. You live in a dream world.

When Tom Brady is available let me know and I would love to sign him. Until then Dak is the guy. For a long time. Better get used to it.

so you think 13 points is good enough to win how many games?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Who said he is playing at some unreal level? Who is propping up his completion percentage?

Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys over the last 3 years has been a text book lesson on QB play and you missed the entire class.

Oline play + competent receivers = much better play from Prescott

Bad Oline play + bad receivers = Bad Prescott play.

Very very simple formula. And its the formula for QB play in general.

Nothing genius about it.

Oline play + competent recievers....I expect great offense. not better play......other QBs with those resources create great to elite.....that's the difference.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Here you go again, in 2016 he balled out out, Hence winning ROY and was mentioned in MVP talks.

mentioned in MVP talks...really...by whom? bunch of homers.....fans.....and local media.....come on dude....you stretching it now.

 

[aaev84]

You truly don't have an understanding of football. You are ignoring the basic premise of why he has a low amount of passes/game. This is a team built around running and ball control and Zeke is one of the best RBs in the league. It becomes foolish to go pass heavy and not use our most effective weapon in Zeke just to satisfy a fans desire to fill up passing stats. It's ultimately about winning, not compiling stats. It's not a coincidence that arguably Romo's best year was also the one he averaged less than 30 passes/game. I'm sure there are plenty of seats on the Cousins bandwagon, plenty of stats, but not much winning. Der!

Romo also completed 70% of his passes with an 8.5yds avg and 34 TDs on the year. He was still incredibly productive. Those are great passing numbers considering Murray had nearly 400 attempts on the year.

 

[America's Cowboy]

This seems to be the focus on this forum the past few days...

So I went and checked the stats of league wide completion percentage, and it is unusually high across the league.

There are 4 QBs right now that are at 70% or higher. They are

Drew Brees - 75%
Kirk Cousins - 71%
Matt Ryan - 70%
Marcus Mariota - 70.3%

3 other QBs are right there at 69% - Wentz, Newton, and Rivers

You then drop down one more tier, and you have 4 at 67% - Luck, Carr, Manning, and Winston

We then get to what seems to be around league average at 66% - 8 QBs, including Prescott, fall into this category.

The QBs below the average are Brady, Mayfield, Smith, Trubisky, Dalton, Keemun, Rodgers, Flacco, and Bortles

However, it’s best to look number of throws when judging completion % so I will toss out Mariota since he has less than 300 pass attempts at this point in the season along with Winston.

So the QBs to judge Prescott to that have a similar number of pass attempts (he has 364)

Philip Rivers - 344 attempts, 69.5%
Carson Wentz - 330 attempts, 69.7%
Derek Carr - 384 attempts, 68.5%
Drew Brees - 384 attempts, 75.5%
Patrick Mahomes - 391 attempts, 67.5%
Deshaun Watson - 364 attempts, 66.5%
Mitchell Trubisky - 321 attempts, 65.4%
Baker Mayfield - 354 attempts, 63.3%
Alex Smith - 328 attempts, 62.2%
Andy Dalton - 365 attempts, 61.9%
Joe Flacco - 379 attempts, 62.2%
Blake Bortles - 369 attempts, 60.4%

So going by these numbers, Dak is right there with Deshaun Watson. The players Dak best out, 2 of them are now benched and another is a rookie.

So let’s compare Deshaun Watson and Dak Prescott a little more

Deshaun Watson - 364 passes, 66.5%, 3,031 yards passing, 8.3 average, 21 TDs, 9 INTs, sacked 41 times, 101.1 rating

PFF has him rated #15

Dak Prescott - 364 attempts, 66.8%, 2,675 yards, 7.3 rating, 14 TDs to 5 INTs, sacked 45 times, 95.4 rating

PFF has him rated #19

Looking around the league at completion % averages, Dak’s completion % becomes far less impressive.

This is mediocre QB play.

Several key factors you left out:

Receiving weapons
Oline
Playcalling

Those 3 affect any QBs performance more than anything else.

Since this Offense has surrounded Dak with lesser weapons and performance, it's a great testament to how good Dak is and could be if he was surrounded with better talent and surrounding player performance.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

This seems to be the focus on this forum the past few days...

So I went and checked the stats of league wide completion percentage, and it is unusually high across the league.

There are 4 QBs right now that are at 70% or higher. They are

Drew Brees - 75%
Kirk Cousins - 71%
Matt Ryan - 70%
Marcus Mariota - 70.3%

3 other QBs are right there at 69% - Wentz, Newton, and Rivers

You then drop down one more tier, and you have 4 at 67% - Luck, Carr, Manning, and Winston

We then get to what seems to be around league average at 66% - 8 QBs, including Prescott, fall into this category.

The QBs below the average are Brady, Mayfield, Smith, Trubisky, Dalton, Keemun, Rodgers, Flacco, and Bortles

However, it’s best to look number of throws when judging completion % so I will toss out Mariota since he has less than 300 pass attempts at this point in the season along with Winston.

So the QBs to judge Prescott to that have a similar number of pass attempts (he has 364)

Philip Rivers - 344 attempts, 69.5%
Carson Wentz - 330 attempts, 69.7%
Derek Carr - 384 attempts, 68.5%
Drew Brees - 384 attempts, 75.5%
Patrick Mahomes - 391 attempts, 67.5%
Deshaun Watson - 364 attempts, 66.5%
Mitchell Trubisky - 321 attempts, 65.4%
Baker Mayfield - 354 attempts, 63.3%
Alex Smith - 328 attempts, 62.2%
Andy Dalton - 365 attempts, 61.9%
Joe Flacco - 379 attempts, 62.2%
Blake Bortles - 369 attempts, 60.4%

So going by these numbers, Dak is right there with Deshaun Watson. The players Dak best out, 2 of them are now benched and another is a rookie.

So let’s compare Deshaun Watson and Dak Prescott a little more

Deshaun Watson - 364 passes, 66.5%, 3,031 yards passing, 8.3 average, 21 TDs, 9 INTs, sacked 41 times, 101.1 rating

PFF has him rated #15

Dak Prescott - 364 attempts, 66.8%, 2,675 yards, 7.3 rating, 14 TDs to 5 INTs, sacked 45 times, 95.4 rating

PFF has him rated #19

Looking around the league at completion % averages, Dak’s completion % becomes far less impressive.

This is mediocre QB play.

Average starting QB while not even having completed his 3rd full season and is only 25 yeara old? I'LL TAKE IT

Now imagine him with good coaching and better weapons? Goodness

 

[atlantacowboy]

Completion % on its own and out of context is meaningless. We benched Brandon Weeden in 2015 and he was completing 72% of his passes. Completion % is a small part of a much larger picture.

 

[pancakeman]

Dont understand the rush to sign an average qb to a long term contract

The sad truth is that it’s hard to find even an average qb.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

This seems to be the focus on this forum the past few days...

So I went and checked the stats of league wide completion percentage, and it is unusually high across the league.

There are 4 QBs right now that are at 70% or higher. They are

Drew Brees - 75%
Kirk Cousins - 71%
Matt Ryan - 70%
Marcus Mariota - 70.3%

3 other QBs are right there at 69% - Wentz, Newton, and Rivers

You then drop down one more tier, and you have 4 at 67% - Luck, Carr, Manning, and Winston

We then get to what seems to be around league average at 66% - 8 QBs, including Prescott, fall into this category.

The QBs below the average are Brady, Mayfield, Smith, Trubisky, Dalton, Keemun, Rodgers, Flacco, and Bortles

However, it’s best to look number of throws when judging completion % so I will toss out Mariota since he has less than 300 pass attempts at this point in the season along with Winston.

So the QBs to judge Prescott to that have a similar number of pass attempts (he has 364)

Philip Rivers - 344 attempts, 69.5%
Carson Wentz - 330 attempts, 69.7%
Derek Carr - 384 attempts, 68.5%
Drew Brees - 384 attempts, 75.5%
Patrick Mahomes - 391 attempts, 67.5%
Deshaun Watson - 364 attempts, 66.5%
Mitchell Trubisky - 321 attempts, 65.4%
Baker Mayfield - 354 attempts, 63.3%
Alex Smith - 328 attempts, 62.2%
Andy Dalton - 365 attempts, 61.9%
Joe Flacco - 379 attempts, 62.2%
Blake Bortles - 369 attempts, 60.4%

So going by these numbers, Dak is right there with Deshaun Watson. The players Dak best out, 2 of them are now benched and another is a rookie.

So let’s compare Deshaun Watson and Dak Prescott a little more

Deshaun Watson - 364 passes, 66.5%, 3,031 yards passing, 8.3 average, 21 TDs, 9 INTs, sacked 41 times, 101.1 rating

PFF has him rated #15

Dak Prescott - 364 attempts, 66.8%, 2,675 yards, 7.3 rating, 14 TDs to 5 INTs, sacked 45 times, 95.4 rating

PFF has him rated #19

Looking around the league at completion % averages, Dak’s completion % becomes far less impressive.

This is mediocre QB play.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#yards

Dak is 13th in +/- vs expected completio. %. This is a formula which accounts for their depth of target, which obviously the further you the throw the less likely of a completion.

Only 12 starters are ahead of him in this category, they include- Brees, Cousins, Ryan, Wilson, Newton, Winston, Wentz, Rivers, Goff, and Watson. Quite the bunch.

Thank you for starting the topic, but not doing a very good job. This is a big positive for Mr Prescott.

 

[CF74]

So basically Dak is average. Next!!!

 

[Ken]

This seems to be the focus on this forum the past few days...

So I went and checked the stats of league wide completion percentage, and it is unusually high across the league.

There are 4 QBs right now that are at 70% or higher. They are

Drew Brees - 75%
Kirk Cousins - 71%
Matt Ryan - 70%
Marcus Mariota - 70.3%

3 other QBs are right there at 69% - Wentz, Newton, and Rivers

You then drop down one more tier, and you have 4 at 67% - Luck, Carr, Manning, and Winston

We then get to what seems to be around league average at 66% - 8 QBs, including Prescott, fall into this category.

The QBs below the average are Brady, Mayfield, Smith, Trubisky, Dalton, Keemun, Rodgers, Flacco, and Bortles

However, it’s best to look number of throws when judging completion % so I will toss out Mariota since he has less than 300 pass attempts at this point in the season along with Winston.

So the QBs to judge Prescott to that have a similar number of pass attempts (he has 364)

Philip Rivers - 344 attempts, 69.5%
Carson Wentz - 330 attempts, 69.7%
Derek Carr - 384 attempts, 68.5%
Drew Brees - 384 attempts, 75.5%
Patrick Mahomes - 391 attempts, 67.5%
Deshaun Watson - 364 attempts, 66.5%
Mitchell Trubisky - 321 attempts, 65.4%
Baker Mayfield - 354 attempts, 63.3%
Alex Smith - 328 attempts, 62.2%
Andy Dalton - 365 attempts, 61.9%
Joe Flacco - 379 attempts, 62.2%
Blake Bortles - 369 attempts, 60.4%

So going by these numbers, Dak is right there with Deshaun Watson. The players Dak best out, 2 of them are now benched and another is a rookie.

So let’s compare Deshaun Watson and Dak Prescott a little more

Deshaun Watson - 364 passes, 66.5%, 3,031 yards passing, 8.3 average, 21 TDs, 9 INTs, sacked 41 times, 101.1 rating

PFF has him rated #15

Dak Prescott - 364 attempts, 66.8%, 2,675 yards, 7.3 rating, 14 TDs to 5 INTs, sacked 45 times, 95.4 rating

PFF has him rated #19

Looking around the league at completion % averages, Dak’s completion % becomes far less impressive.

This is mediocre QB play.

This post will age well....haha

He started the year in the crap can and has been steadily digging out of it. First 7 games, 62.14%. He is over 72% the last 5 games since adding Cooper. If he keeps the pace he is on, this post will look silly.


Weapons matter, as I have stated all year long.

 

[Ken]

Yes, but pretending he is playing at some unreal level right now is simply not true. He’s still incredibly inconsistent.

And the prop up for Dak, oddly, has been completion %....which is higher than usual this year league wide.

A prop up...lol

You and you ilk were all bashing him earlier in the season. Now you are grasping while you still can to mitigate it's importance. TOO FUNNY.

Glad you moved on from "who have we beaten" though!

 

[waving monkey]

in 2016 he didn't ball out.....he was 23rd in passing and middle of the pack in TDs. in the first 7 games we scored around 20. in the past 5 games we score around 21.4.....not a big difference, even though his percentage has gone up and his passing yards have gone up too, it hasn't translated to points.....this past game against the saints, everyone was gaga over his completion percentage, yet we only scored 13 points and if not for the defense we would have been screwed against 30th ranked pass defense...

2016 he didn't ball out.. 13-3 ROTY

 

[Ken]

Romo also completed 70% of his passes with an 8.5yds avg and 34 TDs on the year. He was still incredibly productive. Those are great passing numbers considering Murray had nearly 400 attempts on the year.

With a still healthy Dez Bryant, Still great Witten, a GREAT OL, and a young Beez and Twill.

And the leagues leading rusher...


Ya, weapons matter.

 

[School]

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#yards

Dak is 13th in +/- vs expected completio. %. This is a formula which accounts for their depth of target, which obviously the further you the throw the less likely of a completion.

Only 12 starters are ahead of him in this category, they include- Brees, Cousins, Ryan, Wilson, Newton, Winston, Wentz, Rivers, Goff, and Watson. Quite the bunch.

Thank you for starting the topic, but not doing a very good job. This is a big positive for Mr Prescott.

Another interesting stat there, is that among full time starters, Dak is 2nd in aggressiveness and tied for 3rd in fewest interceptions, behind only Rodgers and Brees.

 

[Ken]

2016 he didn't ball out.. 13-3 ROTY

He also did NOT set the NFL RECORD for consecutive passes without an INT. I believe Tom Brady still holds that record if memory serves HA

 

[waving monkey]

Give most of those QBs a “real O-Line and receivers” and they will do well...

Kirk Cousins has 70% completion.

Dak is still middling. He should get a Blake Bortles-like contract, but Jones gonna Jones

Thank you for your OP. Can you address the things Dak does with his legs and strength?
I think his other qualities arent stat driven.
Dak has many things to trim out such as fumbling and sacks.

 

[Ken]

Another interesting stat there, is that among full time starters, Dak is 2nd in aggressiveness and tied for 3rd in fewest interceptions, behind only Rodgers and Brees.

According to haters...he is aggressively Dinking and Dunking lol

 

[Roadtrip635]

Romo also completed 70% of his passes with an 8.5yds avg and 34 TDs on the year. He was still incredibly productive. Those are great passing numbers considering Murray had nearly 400 attempts on the year.

My response was to his statement that somehow Dak's lower attempts/game was relevant without understanding the reasons why. It's not about how often you pass, it's about how effective those passes are. This is a ball control rush based offense. Romo is a good example because it's the same basic principle and scheme that we used in 2014. It was also one of our best years with him, but he also had fewer pass attempts than any other year. That was the point of the post, a team can be successful without having to throw it 40 times a game. It's more important to try and be balanced on offense than just passing for the sake of passing.