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yea, but i will take pressure over coverage.

Well, to be fair, if you are going to use a pressure Defense, then you pretty much have to have LBs who can cover short. When you bring the pressure, your gonna see a lot of hot routes to RBs, WRs and TEs, all making route adjustments. Gotta be able to cover those with LBs.
 

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Well, to be fair, if you are going to use a pressure Defense, then you pretty much have to have LBs who can cover short. When you bring the pressure, your gonna see a lot of hot routes to RBs, WRs and TEs, all making route adjustments. Gotta be able to cover those with LBs.

well, if we play 2 LBs/6 DBs, i rather have jaylon and a LB that can pressure.
if we play 3 LBs/5 DBs, you have lee, jaylon and the pass rush LB.
 

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My cowardice as a hyper sensitive poster fearing personal attacks keeps me from starting posts just like these...

Also on the contrary and in agreement with FlaCowpoke, Jones looked almost as bad and I have never been the biggest fan of his broad jump selection pick.

I guess I will join you as a small minority who agrees with your criticisms and the justifications for those remarks on this player. Regardless of all the previous rebuttal reasons given for allowing developmental time.
I will certainly allow the developmental time, and I really hope he turns out to be a solid player. I just don't see anything impressive to work with. Slow and weak.
 

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What I really hear you saying here is that you want Flexibility.

i want flexibility.
we all want pressure and i dont care if it is from a LB or DL.
in some ways, i miss the 3-4 scheme we abandoned.
easier to draft those players than a 4-3.
 

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I will certainly allow the developmental time, and I really hope he turns out to be a solid player. I just don't see anything impressive to work with. Slow and weak.
I agree
 

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Football Outsiders' "SackSEER" methodology for projecting collegiate pass rushers hated Taco, for reasons discussed below. Last night was pretty consistent with this description. I'm frankly not optimistic, but I've been surprised plenty of times before.

Taco Charlton, Michigan
SackSEER Projection: 20.8 Sacks Through Year 5
SackSEER Rating: 47.3%

Taco Charlton is widely recognized as a "one-hit-wonder" who was dominant for the Michigan Wolverines in his senior season, but could barely crack the lineup during the first three seasons of his college career. Scouts are likely intrigued by the prospect of combining Charlton's ideal size (6-foot-6, 273 pounds) with the pass-rushing production he displayed as a senior.

SackSEER is highly skeptical of players who are one-hit wonders, especially those who break out during their senior seasons. College football players are more experienced and developed as seniors than at any point in their careers, and are often lined up against less experienced and developed sophomores and juniors. This advantage is completely reversed when those senior players are drafted and become NFL rookies. Indeed, history suggests that many of the players who dramatically overperform as seniors may have simply had a lucky season or are naturally inconsistent -- neither of which bodes well for Charlton's prospects.

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Charlton's case is eerily similar to 2003 Bears first-round pick Michael Haynes, who was an even more extreme example of a late bloomer. Haynes had only four sacks as a junior player, but recorded an amazing 15 sacks as a senior. Haynes tipped the scales at 281 pounds, teasing scouts with his potential to combine great pass-rushing with ideal run-stopping size. However, Haynes also fared poorly in pre-draft workouts. Haynes ran the 40-yard dash in 4.87 seconds, recorded a below-average 30.5-inch vertical leap, and broad-jumped only 9 feet, 1 inch. Given Haynes' pedestrian first three seasons, and a combine performance that corroborated the less impressive section of his career, scouts should have realized that Haynes was simply not a first-round talent.

Similarly, Charlton ran the 40-yard dash in 4.92 seconds, even slower than Haynes. Charlton performed better than Haynes on the vertical leap and the broad jump, but he was still below average on both for a drafted edge rusher, let alone a possible first-round pick. To top it off, Charlton recorded only two passes defensed while at Michigan. Considering all of the evidence, Charlton provides several pieces of evidence suggesting that he may be a bust (his freshman season, his sophomore season, his junior season, his poor combine performance, and his poor passes defensed rate) and only one piece of evidence that he may be a success (a strong breakout senior season).

Other prospects have certainly overcome these challenges before. Tamba Hali in particular had a late breakout season and below-average workout numbers, yet became a star. However, for every Hali there are three players like Michael Haynes, making Charlton an extremely risky play in the first round.
 

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I'm not declaring him a bust. But I am seriously questioning whether Watt would have been the better pick. In PIT camp, from the videos I've seen, he's more explosive and made some splash plays against OL. I'm not crying over spilt milk, but in my mind, the two players are linked. Will root hard for Taco tho.
Watt is gonna be a stud
 

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i want flexibility.
we all want pressure and i dont care if it is from a LB or DL.
in some ways, i miss the 3-4 scheme we abandoned.
easier to draft those players than a 4-3.

Honestly, I don't know if that's true anymore. So many teams use 34 base or 34 packages that it's not really as easy as it used to be.

The problem, at least in my opinion, is that we've really not made a pressure rush DE a priority. We've really used picks in other areas. That's probably more on us then on the system, to be honest.
 

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Honestly, I don't know if that's true anymore. So many teams use 34 base or 34 packages that it's not really as easy as it used to be.

The problem, at least in my opinion, is that we've really not made a pressure rush DE a priority. We've really used picks in other areas. That's probably more on us then on the system, to be honest.

if you use last draft as an example, we would have to trade up for the speedy DE but the blitz OLB was still available.
 

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Marinelli wanted a defensive end. It was his turn. They really wanted Tak McKinley, but settled for Charlton because the top 7 DEs were off the board.

I don't think McClay wanted him, but that's just a hunch.

They were desperate for pass rushers, but they were picked over by #28. I think they went with the warm body approach because of all the suspensions and injuries.

If what you're saying is true, then Cowboys should have traded down if the guy(s) they wanted was not there.
 
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