Manziel: "I grew up a Cowboys fan, I was born at halftime of a game, would be folktale to wear Star"

[rags747]

You sound like a teenage girl.

And yet you must be one with the beefcake photo in your sig. Kind of like what my daughter has on her walls. Beard?

 

[coult44]

He was a celebrity as a college player, I would hate to see him get anointed by the crypt keeper and see what he does with an NFL bankroll.

You do know he's from an oil family with millions right?

 

[CyberB0b]

And yet you must be one with the beefcake photo in your sig. Kind of like what my daughter has on her walls. Beard?

What can I say? Greasy sax man is sexy.

 

[Roadtrip635]

If JF was somehow still there at 16/17, I would definitely take him. His size may be a concern, but I think his arm and accuracy is underrated by many , he's a leader on the field, plays with passion, plays well in big games and make people around him better. I really think those intangibles outweigh the concern about the lack of his prototypical size. Even coming out of high school he was told he wasn't big enough to play at the next level, I think that just fuels his desire to succeed. NFL ain't college, but I think he has the tools to succeed. Ask Mack Brown if he wishes he would have offered a QB scholarship to JF, if he had, Mack would still be coaching at UT.

 

[burmafrd]

Drew Brees and Russell WilIson are too small also

they both have better arms and are built more sturdily as well

 

[KB1122]

If Manziel or any other new quarterback is the real thing, then you won't have to worry about him rotting on the bench for three or four years. It doesn't work that way. He will start by the end of season 2.

 

[Lonestar94]

Seems to me like Manziel will be a bust, if he is publically talking about wanting to play for a team in Texas he won't make it IMO. It almost seems like he is begging the Texans to draft him.

Sounds like someone that needs to grow up and should be willing to play anywhere, even Minnesota in the freezing *** cold.

 

[lostar2009]

At this point, our team is closer to the bottom than the top...

I say go for it...put all our eggs in Johnny Football's basket. It will, at the very least, be different than what this team has brought out for the last 6-7 years...

If we could at the least get a return in romo, 2×2nds would be sweet

 

[lostar2009]

Cowboy fans need to show their support for our QB.

Manziel is not going to the Cowboys, quit living a pipe dream, Romo will be around for a few more years and I will be rooting for the guy all along the way.

Support? Dude we have been supporting this guy since 2006. 1 playoff win to show for it. Lets face it Romo can not carry this team , he need a strong supporting cast just to make the playoffs.

 

[Clove]

Let me fix it for you..."The defense sure as hell isn't getting it done right now. I could be wrong about Manziel...but I know I'm right about the defense." You can thank me later.

I like Manziel a lot but you guys are letting you emotions overcome your logic.

Look what it took cost the Commanders to get RGIII. Now think about what it would take to move from 17 to the first overall pick. You would cripple the franchise for years.

If we ever were going to move up you don't take Manziel, you take Bortles or Bridgewater who are more prototype QB's who translate better to the NFL game. Nothing is for sure, but in a gamble like that, you could never afford to be wrong.

Yeah, the guy who is a Super Bowl champ is probably not your prototypical quarterback. Also, GAMBLE? Yeah, let's remain at 8-8 and be the laughing of all of sports. This undrafted QB experiment should end. It really doesn't matter what QB you get, as long as he can get the job done. Isn't that what we want?

Every QB pickup is a gamble. Every player you take in the draft is a gamble. We are not close, so now is the time to make a move. Kyle Orton proved that he can play just as good as Romo, yet it takes someone special to win IMPORTANT games. Anyone can throw up numbers in this pass happy league. 300 yard passing games or for chumps. Winning is for the elite. Washington felt like they could get a franchise QB, and RGiii is just in his second year coming off a devastating injury. We still don't know what he's capable of. But you say to me, "hey, we could have gotten this or that for all we spent on RGiii". yet in previous years, with all your draft picks you conservatively used, it still helped you do nothing.

We're so worried about losing draft picks, but tell me what "MULTIPLE" draft picks have helped us win the Super Bowl or for the sake of being conservative, win more than one playoff game in nearly 20 years? All the players and draft picks over the years have netted us 1 playoff victory. So who cares if we have to "switch" first round picks, give them a 2, next year's first and 3rd to move up to get a great QB, whomever that may be? Who cares? Because no matter who we get, and whether that pick works out or not, it's better than staying mediocre.

I'm pretty sure I can dig up tons of posts saying next year we're going to be great because we can get this and that in the draft, and what happens? Nothing. We say the same crap every year. EVERY EVERY YEAR!!! We get so excited about the draft to end of 8 and 8. What a miserable football life.

So I say, you may as well at least try to do something special. Now for someone who goes after a corner and gives up that much, is just DUMB. (jerry jones) but if you give up that for a QB, and you fail, no big deal. You load up, and try again. If you're going to gamble, gamble on a QB.

Don't complain if you don't try.

 

[lostar2009]

Yeah, the guy who is a Super Bowl champ is probably not your prototypical quarterback. Also, GAMBLE? Yeah, let's remain at 8-8 and be the laughing of all of sports. This undrafted QB experiment should end. It really doesn't matter what QB you get, as long as he can get the job done. Isn't that what we want?

Every QB pickup is a gamble. Every player you take in the draft is a gamble. We are not close, so now is the time to make a move. Kyle Orton proved that he can play just as good as Romo, yet it takes someone special to win IMPORTANT games. Anyone can throw up numbers in this pass happy league. 300 yard passing games or for chumps. Winning is for the elite. Washington felt like they could get a franchise QB, and RGiii is just in his second year coming off a devastating injury. We still don't know what he's capable of. But you say to me, "hey, we could have gotten this or that for all we spent on RGiii". yet in previous years, with all your draft picks you conservatively used, it still helped you do nothing.

We're so worried about losing draft picks, but tell me what "MULTIPLE" draft picks have helped us win the Super Bowl or for the sake of being conservative, win more than one playoff game in nearly 20 years? All the players and draft picks over the years have netted us 1 playoff victory. So who cares if we have to "switch" first round picks, give them a 2, next year's first and 3rd to move up to get a great QB, whomever that may be? Who cares? Because no matter who we get, and whether that pick works out or not, it's better than staying mediocre.

I'm pretty sure I can dig up tons of posts saying next year we're going to be great because we can get this and that in the draft, and what happens? Nothing. We say the same crap every year. EVERY EVERY YEAR!!! We get so excited about the draft to end of 8 and 8. What a miserable football life.

So I say, you may as well at least try to do something special. Now for someone who goes after a corner and gives up that much, is just DUMB. (jerry jones) but if you give up that for a QB, and you fail, no big deal. You load up, and try again. If you're going to gamble, gamble on a QB.

Don't complain if you don't try.

JF and Dez Bryant, enough said. Dez is a dog and so is JF. We need dogs on this team real bad.

 

[Clove]

If JF was somehow still there at 16/17, I would definitely take him. His size may be a concern, but I think his arm and accuracy is underrated by many , he's a leader on the field, plays with passion, plays well in big games and make people around him better. I really think those intangibles outweigh the concern about the lack of his prototypical size. Even coming out of high school he was told he wasn't big enough to play at the next level, I think that just fuels his desire to succeed. NFL ain't college, but I think he has the tools to succeed. Ask Mack Brown if he wishes he would have offered a QB scholarship to JF, if he had, Mack would still be coaching at UT.

I watched him play a lot this past season and that kid has a strong arm. His pocket awareness is sick!! And if you try to force him the opposite direction, he's even more dangerous throwing against the grain.

This kid played with 1 lineman, and 1 receiver. Outside of that, he played with trash. He is the definition of carrying a team. Romo needs All-Stars at every position just to make the playoffs, while this kid only needed a lineman and a receiver. My point, you give him a few weapons, and a decent line, not great, but decent line and a decent defense, who knows what he could do. And for the people bringing up the other prototypical quarterbacks out there, who's to say they will do something special?

 

[Corso]

Manziel has a high risk/reward element associated with his status and potential.
If for some reason he slides to 16th or 17th pick, Jerry should take him.

Your AVI is the best.
That man is an American Institution.
A statue should be made of him.

 

[Corso]

And yet you must be one with the beefcake photo in your sig. Kind of like what my daughter has on her walls. Beard?

Hey! Don't rag on the greasy sax man!
That's Lost Boys, yo!
80's Icon!

 

[Corso]

Yeah, the guy who is a Super Bowl champ is probably not your prototypical quarterback. Also, GAMBLE? Yeah, let's remain at 8-8 and be the laughing of all of sports. This undrafted QB experiment should end. It really doesn't matter what QB you get, as long as he can get the job done. Isn't that what we want?

Every QB pickup is a gamble. Every player you take in the draft is a gamble. We are not close, so now is the time to make a move. Kyle Orton proved that he can play just as good as Romo, yet it takes someone special to win IMPORTANT games. Anyone can throw up numbers in this pass happy league. 300 yard passing games or for chumps. Winning is for the elite. Washington felt like they could get a franchise QB, and RGiii is just in his second year coming off a devastating injury. We still don't know what he's capable of. But you say to me, "hey, we could have gotten this or that for all we spent on RGiii". yet in previous years, with all your draft picks you conservatively used, it still helped you do nothing.

We're so worried about losing draft picks, but tell me what "MULTIPLE" draft picks have helped us win the Super Bowl or for the sake of being conservative, win more than one playoff game in nearly 20 years? All the players and draft picks over the years have netted us 1 playoff victory. So who cares if we have to "switch" first round picks, give them a 2, next year's first and 3rd to move up to get a great QB, whomever that may be? Who cares? Because no matter who we get, and whether that pick works out or not, it's better than staying mediocre.

I'm pretty sure I can dig up tons of posts saying next year we're going to be great because we can get this and that in the draft, and what happens? Nothing. We say the same crap every year. EVERY EVERY YEAR!!! We get so excited about the draft to end of 8 and 8. What a miserable football life.

So I say, you may as well at least try to do something special. Now for someone who goes after a corner and gives up that much, is just DUMB. (jerry jones) but if you give up that for a QB, and you fail, no big deal. You load up, and try again. If you're going to gamble, gamble on a QB.

Don't complain if you don't try.

Whether I agree or disagree (and I'm not saying I disagree)- you are a darn enjoyable read.
From your passion to your logic(illogic).
Love your posts, man.
Don't stop.

 

[Corso]

What can I say? Greasy sax man is sexy.

Man- as long as you keep that sig- I'm probably going to like every post you make...
Even the ones we argue over...
Simply inspiring that you thought of it to begin with.

 

[CyberB0b]

Man- as long as you keep that sig- I'm probably going to like every post you make...
Even the ones we argue over...
Simply inspiring that you thought of it to begin with.

Thanks.

 

[Roadtrip635]

I watched him play a lot this past season and that kid has a strong arm. His pocket awareness is sick!! And if you try to force him the opposite direction, he's even more dangerous throwing against the grain.

This kid played with 1 lineman, and 1 receiver. Outside of that, he played with trash. He is the definition of carrying a team. Romo needs All-Stars at every position just to make the playoffs, while this kid only needed a lineman and a receiver. My point, you give him a few weapons, and a decent line, not great, but decent line and a decent defense, who knows what he could do. And for the people bringing up the other prototypical quarterbacks out there, who's to say they will do something special?

That's true, there are a lot of busts at QB that had prototypical size. When it comes down to it, when he's on the field the kid makes things happen and he lay's it all on the field.

 

[Aggie87]

Seems to me like Manziel will be a bust, if he is publically talking about wanting to play for a team in Texas he won't make it IMO. It almost seems like he is begging the Texans to draft him.

Sounds like someone that needs to grow up and should be willing to play anywhere, even Minnesota in the freezing *** cold.

I believe he said that because he wants to be the first pick in the draft. If Oakland were first he'd be saying the same thing about playing there.

And I also think he's the type who will want to prove himself afterwards. He's not going to be the next Jamarcus Russell, or Ryan Leaf, whether he ends up failing or not. It won't be for lack of trying.

 

[Zordon]

Time Tebow won more on a bigger stage in a better conference

He's the next tim tebow

Yeah, the guy who is a Super Bowl champ is probably not your prototypical quarterback. Also, GAMBLE? Yeah, let's remain at 8-8 and be the laughing of all of sports. This undrafted QB experiment should end. It really doesn't matter what QB you get, as long as he can get the job done. Isn't that what we want?

Every QB pickup is a gamble. Every player you take in the draft is a gamble. We are not close, so now is the time to make a move. Kyle Orton proved that he can play just as good as Romo, yet it takes someone special to win IMPORTANT games. Anyone can throw up numbers in this pass happy league. 300 yard passing games or for chumps. Winning is for the elite. Washington felt like they could get a franchise QB, and RGiii is just in his second year coming off a devastating injury. We still don't know what he's capable of. But you say to me, "hey, we could have gotten this or that for all we spent on RGiii". yet in previous years, with all your draft picks you conservatively used, it still helped you do nothing.

We're so worried about losing draft picks, but tell me what "MULTIPLE" draft picks have helped us win the Super Bowl or for the sake of being conservative, win more than one playoff game in nearly 20 years? All the players and draft picks over the years have netted us 1 playoff victory. So who cares if we have to "switch" first round picks, give them a 2, next year's first and 3rd to move up to get a great QB, whomever that may be? Who cares? Because no matter who we get, and whether that pick works out or not, it's better than staying mediocre.

I'm pretty sure I can dig up tons of posts saying next year we're going to be great because we can get this and that in the draft, and what happens? Nothing. We say the same crap every year. EVERY EVERY YEAR!!! We get so excited about the draft to end of 8 and 8. What a miserable football life.

So I say, you may as well at least try to do something special. Now for someone who goes after a corner and gives up that much, is just DUMB. (jerry jones) but if you give up that for a QB, and you fail, no big deal. You load up, and try again. If you're going to gamble, gamble on a QB.

Don't complain if you don't try.

It amazes me how many on this site have no issue whatsoever sticking with the status quo. "Keep Ware, Keep Romo, Keep Witten, Keep Free on a paycut, Give Carter another year, Let Spencer come back for cheap...etc...etc..etc.." It's sickening how so many fans on this site are scared to death of turning the page on this core. I am ready. Trust me, IF Jerry did NOT give Romo that extension, if he made Romo play out his final year of the contract, Manziel would be the draft pick, period. I just wish Jerry would wake up from his brain dead state and realize this core is finished no matter how many ways you try to tinker it. They're damaged goods, they're finished. Bring in JFF and you automatically have the leader we've desperately being wanting since Aikman retired. No more slouching shoulders, whining to teammates, no more "if this is the worst thing that happens to me in my life....". We'd finally have that dawg who would be foaming at the mouth to win games. Someone that Dez can feed off of. Let me stop before I start getting emotional....I'm just sick of this core.