Martin's fines are over 500K so far

[Concord]

Pay the man already

 

[rambo2]

I'm guessing that it ends sometime this week.

 

[Beats_By_Zeke]

Jerry caved to Zeke. He will cave to Martin…

 

[DallasEast]

Answer: Until Martin gets paid.

 

[conner01]

Anyone who thinks this team can compete for a SB without Zack Martin is beyond delusional, Jerry included.

He will be here. He has no choice
He’s making a point and probably hates camp like most vets. He’s got 2 years left on his deal and he’s not sitting out and walking away from that much money
Waive the fines and tell him he’s 500k richer, now get to work

 

[KingCorcoran]

He will be here. He has no choice
He’s making a point and probably hates camp like most vets. He’s got 2 years left on his deal and he’s not sitting out and walking away from that much money
Waive the fines and tell him he’s 500k richer, now get to work

It’s my understanding the fines cannot be excused. Am I misinformed?

 

[Whyjerry]

this may not end well. Have to admit, Jerry's attitude about is surprising, to me at least. He normally keeps his future HOFers happy.........

This is a reminder that Jerry is a moron level GM. Truly a total loser that under normal circumstances would have been fired 20 years ago.

 

[The Fonz]

If Zeke can do it with 2 years left so can Martin
pay the man JJ

 

[big dog cowboy]

Wondering if Martin also taking advantage of no camp.

 

[Shannon1]

He will be here. He has no choice
He’s making a point and probably hates camp like most vets. He’s got 2 years left on his deal and he’s not sitting out and walking away from that much money
Waive the fines and tell him he’s 500k richer, now get to work

Cannot wave the fines anymore been said 1000 times read the post

 

[BlindFaith]

It’s my understanding the fines cannot be excused. Am I misinformed?

No

 

[gimmesix]

What’s the objective here? To help the team or help himself?

Why can't it be both? He took the longer-term deal that benefitted the team, but he wants to be paid what the market says he is worth. Taking the longer-term deal that benefitted the team is preventing him from being paid what he's worth now and he has no guarantees left now that the team is going to even honor the contract that he signed (it could cut him next year and save money). Martin just wants what he views as fair pay/guarantees for his position, knowing that he's been a good team player as far as the deal that he took.

 

[gimmesix]

He wanted to be the highest paid guard in the NFL and wanted the security of a long term contract. The Cowboys offered him just that. I don’t know how that’s “team friendly“, but OK.

Is $6 million the year he restructured being the highest-paid guard? How about less than $10 million in three of his first four seasons, and it could have been four out of four if the team had restructured the second year? His deal was very team friendly. He allowed a lot of flexibility in it for the team to move money around, which benefits the team in trying to sign other players.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Why can't it be both? He took the longer-term deal that benefitted the team, but he wants to be paid what the market says he is worth. Taking the longer-term deal that benefitted the team is preventing him from being paid what he's worth now and he has no guarantees left now that the team is going to even honor the contract that he signed (it could cut him next year and save money). Martin just wants what he views as fair pay/guarantees for his position, knowing that he's been a good team player as far as the deal that he took.

I don’t think you can do both. Someone has to budge.

 

[John813]

It’s my understanding the fines cannot be excused. Am I misinformed?

Correct.

After the holdouts from the previous CBA timeframe, the owners cracked down on players holding out. On rookie contracts and on 4+ year experience contracts.
Only holdouts that still can't be fined are ones currently not under contract but rights have been retained, such as a franchise tagged player who hasn't signed.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Is $6 million the year he restructured being the highest-paid guard? How about less than $10 million in three of his first four seasons, and it could have been four out of four if the team had restructured the second year? His deal was very team friendly. He allowed a lot of flexibility in it for the team to move money around, which benefits the team in trying to sign other players.

He signed a deal he was comfortable with. Philly’s center is going into his 13th year and all of the contracts he’s signed in his career don’t add up to $84 million. And he’s considered a potential HoFer. Jerry Jones stepped up for Martin and this is what he gets for his comparative generosity. Martin’s bonus and salary this season is more than Philly’s three starting interior O-Lineman combined will be paid this season.That’s not enough? Think whatever you want about Jerry, but he is aware he’s competing with 31 other franchises and three of them his team must play twice every year. I’ll bet the Eagles would love to sign some all-pro LBs and RBs right now. It looks as if they need them. But they don’t have the money to do that. So too bad for them. Perhaps Jerry Jones wants to limit the amount of “too bad” for the Cowboys.

 

[BlindFaith]

What this boils down to is this -

Jerry has finally realized that you cant have everything. Cant have the highest paid OL AND high paid QB AND high paid WR AND have a competent defense.

Martin is caught in that transition and knows it. And also knows hes under contract and cant really do anything about it.

He sees guys like Dak and Diggs getting big pay days. He knows Ceedee is next. Then Parsons. Sees Pollard getting top 5 money via the franchise tag.

He knows this team has a chance at the Superbowl and was hoping to leverage that to get a big, guaranteed bonus via restructure.

He is a guard. He is not Larry Allen. Jerry paid him as the best guard in football when they resigned him. The Patriots probably would have moved on from him then. As would have other teams. You simply dont pay arguably the least important position on offense huge money. But they did. Now he wants more.

Imagine if every year every player just decided they needed a raise, to stay in line with being the top paid at their position. Just ignored their contract.

They wont ever do that. They get that big pay day. Big bonus and upfront money. Take said upfront money and invest it. Let your money make you money. Thats what they want. Thats what he got.

But no. Martin got his and now wants more. And is holding his teammates hostage.

And guys like Dak should shut their trap instead of Tweeting out "Pay the man". Dak is the main reason they cant. And he needs to realize that if you make that kind of coin, you are responsible for elevating those around you.

Hes failed to do that. He's failed to live up to the money he was paid. The irony is rich with him. He wants to be paid like the best, but he also wants everyone around him to be the best and be paid accordingly.

Not how the NFL works son.

And Martin, either retire and pay back what you owe or show up to work.

 

[gimmesix]

I don’t think you can do both. Someone has to budge.

It still can be because Martin has $13 million in non-guaranteed base next year. Converting that to bonus, which means he gets it now as guaranteed money, would bump his cap hit this year to $13.5 million from $11 million and his cap hit next year from $23 million to around $15.5 million. We could go ahead and guarantee what would remain as base salary ($3 million) next year as well. That would be team friendly and benefit Martin because of the gurantees.

Now, it might take extending his deal a couple more years and adding another guaranteed year to it, but there's ways to make it work. If we paid him the $23 million he is scheduled to get next year, we'd be paying him more in that one year than he's made over any two-year period throughout this deal. So I really doubt we're going to pay him that anyway (it costs less to cut him than keep him, and if we did, he'd lose that $13 million since it isn't guaranteed).

 

[gimmesix]

He signed a deal he was comfortable with. Philly’s center is going into his 13th year and all of the contracts he’s signed in his career don’t add up to $84 million. And he’s considered a potential HoFer. Jerry Jones stepped up for Martin and this is what he gets for his comparative generosity. Martin’s bonus and salary this season is more than Philly’s three starting interior O-Lineman combined will be paid this season.That’s not enough? Think whatever you want about Jerry, but he is aware he’s competing with 31 other franchises and three of them his team must play twice every year. I’ll bet the Eagles would love to sign some all-pro LBs and RBs right now. It looks as if they need them. But they don’t have the money to do that. So too bad for them. Perhaps Jerry Jones wants to limit the amount of “too bad” for the Cowboys.

Eagles make Jason Kelce highest-paid center in NFL on 1-year, $14M contract​

Published: Mar 11, 2022 at 02:03 PM

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Jason Kelce announced Thursday that he will return for his 12th season, and he will be paid handsomely for another year anchoring the Eagles' offensive line.
NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Friday that Kelce agreed to a one-year contract that is worth essentially $14 million -- a figure that will make Kelce the highest-paid center in the NFL on an annual basis. The Lions' Frank Ragnow previously held that distinction at $13.5 million per season.

 

[BlindFaith]

It still can be because Martin has $13 million in non-guaranteed base next year. Converting that to bonus, which means he gets it now as guaranteed money, would bump his cap hit this year to $13.5 million from $11 million and his cap hit next year from $23 million to around $15.5 million. We could go ahead and guarantee what would remain as base salary ($3 million) next year as well. That would be team friendly and benefit Martin because of the gurantees.

Now, it might take extending his deal a couple more years and adding another guaranteed year to it, but there's ways to make it work. If we paid him the $23 million he is scheduled to get next year, we'd be paying him more in that one year than he's made over any two-year period throughout this deal. So I really doubt we're going to pay him that anyway (it costs less to cut him than keep him, and if we did, he'd lose that $13 million since it isn't guaranteed).

They want to move on from him. He knows it and Jerry has all but eluded to it.

Dak will want a big bump in a year or two. We have Ceedee. Then we are looking at breaking the bank for Parsons. If Tyler Smith takes the next step, he could be looking at a huge payday. Collins they want to rework.

Martin mentioned the R word. The team is making plans to move on from him. He should show up and start collecting the money he can and stop giving it away to the NFL.