Martin's fines are over 500K so far

[Flamma]

Funny how a guy could be earning more than he could ever use and then some, but his biggest concern is how much is somebody else going to get?

It's crazy to me. When you already have obscene money, and all you can do is stress about more money, something is starting to go wrong mentally. It's just weird. At what point are you happy?

 

[starfan1]

Even though they didn’t like Torrence? People speak highly of him on this site but pre draft he’s not nearly the generational talent people make him out to be lol.

And schoon is? We may soon find out which position is of bigger need

 

[starfan1]

Since when do 2nd round guards come into the league ready to go? Go look at Kenyan green and zion Johnson from last year. 2 better prospects

Is schoon ready? One was a bonified 2 nd round lineman many predicted 1st at a position of need

The other was a 3rd of 4th round player the cowboys took a flyer on at a position that they have severely misjudged the need on

They panicked and it’s possible the guy don’t see much of the field this year if he gets by the plantar facitis he’s going to be behind Ferguson on depth chart

You can’t be a blocking TE from the training room. OL will be this teams undoing

 

[zekecowboy]

I dont even want to think about what the O Line play will look like if he isnt there in September.

Why do you think Zack Martin will be out for the whole preseason? If he is out game 1, Dallas OL is in deep trouble.

 

[Sarge]

New nfl rules state it can no longer be forgiven. It has to be subtracted regardless of the wording of the new deal

Yep.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And schoon is? We may soon find out which position is of bigger need

I’ll be honest I have no idea what Schoon is. I didn’t get the pick but I liked Ferguson. Also liked a few tight ends over Schoon….I don’t understand it and not justifying it. But if you tell me do I want Torrence or wait until next year when better guards are available? I’d rather wait.

 

[erod]

Isn’t he getting hit with enough fines? Active NFL players are, by contract, not allowed to appear in ads promoting alcoholic beverages. “which Jerry funds”…I’m going to go out on a limb here and predict Jerry doesn’t pay for his players to do commercials.

Ok, pick your favorite stadium sponser, that's not the point.

Martin won't pay those fines if he reports. Guatantee you. There are a millions ways to hide that in the books.

 

[erod]

So then basically Jerry has to pay even more money? Makes no sense to me lol.

Jerry pays $500K more money on the contract so Zack can pay the fine to Jerry. Done.

 

[Aven8]

This isn’t like the old days where the fine wasn’t real, or could be handshake, wink deal. It goes to the league.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Jerry pays $500K more money on the contract so Zack can pay the fine to Jerry. Done.

That makes no sense. First off it’s going to be more then 500k.

Secondly, it it’s just 500k then it would make sense to just get a deal
Done now.

This doesn’t make any sense for Jerry at all unless he plans on paying before he returns.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Ok, pick your favorite stadium sponser, that's not the point.

Martin won't pay those fines if he reports. Guatantee you. There are a millions ways to hide that in the books.

I do not know Jerry Jones personally, but he doesn’t seem like the kind of man that would knowingly violate the CBA. He does seem like the kind of man that would know better than to “hide” payments from the NFLPA and the other 31 NFL ownership groups. I’ll allow that my judgment of him could be wrong.

 

[Tussinman]

The guy is what, 32 years old? At what age does a RG cease to be worth multiple millions of dollars?

It's hard to say. Just in our division alone Jason Kelce who turns 36 this season has made first team all pro 5 out of the last 6 seasons so it's not rare to see interior guys play this long at a high level

 

[Flamma]

By all appearances, the Cowboys planed on giving Martin a 3-4 year extension after this year to smooth out that big cap hit next year. My guess is that Martin is worried about injury this year. He can be released after this season. I think it's as simple as that. But should a man that has accumulated that much money be worried about this? It's not like he'll be on the unemployment line anytime soon.

 

[FVSTONE]

Martin seems like a down to earth guy who has probably saved a lot of his NFL money he has made over the years and at 32 yrs of age might pull the plug on a great career and tell JJ to go fly a kite and retire!

 

[erod]

If I'm not mistaken, Martin has hinted at retirement before. This might be a precursor.

 

[starfan1]

I’ll be honest I have no idea what Schoon is. I didn’t get the pick but I liked Ferguson. Also liked a few tight ends over Schoon….I don’t understand it and not justifying it. But if you tell me do I want Torrence or wait until next year when better guards are available? I’d rather wait.

I get what your saying I just feel the time is now. And the depth issue will rear it’s head now

Dak is too inconsistent when the line pass blocks like crap. I think that they will figure the Martin stuff out but Tyron will be hurt and Steele is a ? Mark. Ball sucks

I would have preferred any lineman over a TE but we know Torrence was the best available

The cowboys do like position flex so maybe the late round guys can do a little of all positions like McGovern did

OL is my biggest concern then kicker

 

[CowboyFrog]

Both the team and the player know that a seven-year deal isn't a seven-year deal. It's a three- or four-year deal that the player lets be longer because it gives the team flexibility for spreading out bonuses and restructuring purposes.

This is only Martin's third year to count more than $10 million against the cap since signing his deal. His deal was very team friendly. Compare it to the four-year deal that Prescott signed. He has counted at least $17 million each year of the deal because the team had nowhere to push the money. It put two void years on the end just to be able to spread out some of the hit, but, of course, having just void years mean the Cowboys have to do something with his contract next year because they can't restructure it anymore. Most likely that means an extension since he is set to cost $59 million against the cap.

Martin could have been like Dak and only accepted a four-year deal with void years. Then the team would have been forced to redo his deal this year instead of Martin trying to force them to do what's right.

Again this isn't a who's right or wrong on Dak's deal... nothing about Zack's/Dak's career contracts are similar..nothing... Zack got extended pretty much immediatly when available for the top money for an OG at the time.. Dak literally played out every year of his 4th round rookie deal and then played on the tag. One is now renegotiating a front loaded contract while holding out the other played 2 years with out a multi year deal and never held out.. Again not saying Martin is wrong but there really is no comparing the 2's contract situations in thier career's. Dak might have taken a longer deal on an extension of his Rookie deal..thats not the opp he was presented with and again I'm not even saying they should have.

 

[BossRhino]

If I'm not mistaken, Martin has hinted at retirement before. This might be a precursor.

If he retires he needs to start giving some money back.

 

[Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius]

Not true…..that money is gone. He has to pay that back.

Oh O.K I was wrong !!!

 

[VaqueroTD]

Wondering if Martin also taking advantage of no camp. He doesn’t need it and I’m sure he would admit it like most All-Pro veterans after 30.

He knows this is his last big deal. Don’t hate the business man.