Matt Forte To Dallas Cowboys Trade Is Heating Up And Here’s Why

Alexander

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I have never suggested trading Leary for him. I wouldn't trade Leary because Collins is unproven.

Wait, so Leary is some treasure we should clutch to our bosoms?

Seriously?

I don't want to jeopardize depth, but when I could use it as a resource to shore up problem areas on the roster, I certainly think about it.
 

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Wait, so Leary is some treasure we should clutch to our bosoms?

Seriously?

I don't want to jeopardize depth, but when I could use it as a resource to shore up problem areas on the roster, I certainly think about it.

Why does everyone assume Collins will replace Leary? Old Man Free could be replaced by Collins as well. No talk of trading him though.
 

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Why does everyone assume Collins will replace Leary? Old Man Free could be replaced by Collins as well. No talk of trading him though.

Free is the Nick Hayden of the offense.

Every swinging you know what thinks he is terrible, he hangs around.

Same thing.
 

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Why does everyone assume Collins will replace Leary? Old Man Free could be replaced by Collins as well. No talk of trading him though.

As much as I want an upgrade from Free, Collins has never played RT, and switching sides usually isn't very easy, especially for a rook. He'll probably get reps at RT though to improve his technique, but I don't see him beating out Free this season. Probably next, though.

Collins played LG and LT in college and is much more acclimated to the position. It's also my opinion that Collins signed here, while having other suitors, because we told him we'd get him on the field. LG seems like the much more likely destination with an eventual move to RT.
 

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Free is the Nick Hayden of the offense.

Every swinging you know what thinks he is terrible, he hangs around.

Same thing.
You're being far too kind to Hayden.

The Cowboys averaged 4.9 yards per carry running behind the RT last season, which was 3rd in the league.

In 2013, they averaged 5.09 yards per carry running behind the RT, which was 1st.
 

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This article was less informative than 99% of the posts on this forum.

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As much as I want an upgrade from Free, Collins has never played RT, and switching sides usually isn't very easy, especially for a rook. He'll probably get reps at RT though to improve his technique, but I don't see him beating out Free this season. Probably next, though.

Collins played LG and LT in college and is much more acclimated to the position. It's also my opinion that Collins signed here, while having other suitors, because we told him we'd get him on the field. LG seems like the much more likely destination with an eventual move to RT.

I understand that, but Leary is Young, , Free is getting to the end of his career. I'd see what Collins can do in the pre-season at RT.
 

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The only thing in that article I was even remotely interested in was Knile Davis. Would be cheap, can haul the mail 25 to 30 times a game if necessary and is young.

Yeah, Knile Davis is more interesting to me too. No clue if KC needs a G. They traded for Ben Grubbs ahead of the draft and they reached for an OL guy in the draft fairly high.

If not Leary, Joe Randle for Knile Davis might be a better fit with both teams. Both are on their first contract in year 2. Similar statistically, though Davis started once last year and put up 130+yards in that game. Was lead back in a couple others and was very productive. Other games, not really productive at all. Randle hasn't had a break out game like Davis, but has been more consistently productive.

Also, Randle is from Wichita and played at K St. I think he also has a child in Kansas. Davis is from Texas.
 

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I understand that, but Leary is Young, , Free is getting to the end of his career. I'd see what Collins can do in the pre-season at RT.

Leary's knees are a concern though.

I won't pretend to think I know what his value is, but one thing I do know is that being part of a unit like he has been, his value will be inflated.

Parnell was able to parlay fill in duty into a good contract.

If he has value, move him if you must.

I still like being greedy and resting on depth, but in today's NFL, that is not always smart.
 

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I understand that, but Leary is Young, , Free is getting to the end of his career. I'd see what Collins can do in the pre-season at RT.

Oh, absolutely. I was just saying I don't think he's going to get his technique solid enough in this limited time to beat out Free.

I'd definitely let him play at RT quite a bit though so it's not foreign to him next year.

I also think Weeden should be playing all the snaps during Collins learning curve.
 

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Many of you just want another RB so bad you'll believe anything. Despite the reports, it's my opinion the Cowboys are not looking to add another RB until well into TC. Depending on how our crop of RBs do, will determine how the FO proceeds.
 

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I'm really surprised at the lack of love for Forte. He's a true three down back, extremely durable, and we'd only be on the hook for his salary for this season.

We'd save a roster spot by acquiring Forte because he can do it all. He'd make Dunbar expendable, because Forte is such a good receiver that he'd take Dunbar's place in our 5 wide packages. He'd give us the option of getting rid of McFadden because Forte would take over that 3rd down role.

If all it'd take is OL depth (Leary) to get the deal done, you do this yesterday. If the asking price is higher than that, then I start leaning towards no since Forte is just a one year rental.
 

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I don't want to be mean but there is a reason broaddus is not working as a scout for a team. I think Jason and Stephen and will mcclay have a plan after last season im just going to trust them.
 

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Wait, so Leary is some treasure we should clutch to our bosoms?

Seriously?

I don't want to jeopardize depth, but when I could use it as a resource to shore up problem areas on the roster, I certainly think about it.

I'm not going to rid of a proven player because of a highly coveted undrafted FA (I know why he wasn't drafted, even if he was drafted, I wouldn't care). I certainly don't see the value because we wouldn't have Forte for years, he would be a one year player. I want to see Leary and Collins fight it out through camp.
 

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Leary's knees are a concern though.

I won't pretend to think I know what his value is, but one thing I do know is that being part of a unit like he has been, his value will be inflated.

Parnell was able to parlay fill in duty into a good contract.

If he has value, move him if you must.

I still like being greedy and resting on depth, but in today's NFL, that is not always smart.

Call him my pet cat or whatever, but getting rid of Leary is not an option. Even if Collins replaces him, I still think we win by keeping him and extending his career by not wearing his knee down quickly. We found a diamond in the rough in Leary who is young. I'd rather trade old talent in a player like Free.
 

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I'm not going to rid of a proven player because of a highly coveted undrafted FA (I know why he wasn't drafted, even if he was drafted, I wouldn't care)..

So, if Collins were our first round pick, which he could have, easily and even be labeled a steal--you would still cling to this idea about a "proven player" like Leary?

I doubt it. You are not even being honest with yourself.
 

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I'm really surprised at the lack of love for Forte. He's a true three down back, extremely durable, and we'd only be on the hook for his salary for this season.

We'd save a roster spot by acquiring Forte because he can do it all. He'd make Dunbar expendable, because Forte is such a good receiver that he'd take Dunbar's place in our 5 wide packages. He'd give us the option of getting rid of McFadden because Forte would take over that 3rd down role.

If all it'd take is OL depth (Leary) to get the deal done, you do this yesterday. If the asking price is higher than that, then I start leaning towards no since Forte is just a one year rental.

I'd love for Forte to come here, but not at the price of giving up Leary. If that's the case I'd rather we kick the tires on Moreno instead who we wouldn't have to give up anything for.
 
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