Matt Forte To Dallas Cowboys Trade Is Heating Up And Here’s Why

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Mcfadden > forte

If they really give up a pick to get forte with that salary thats dumb as hell. We can get johnson on the cheap.
 

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Not a fan of Broaddus

To be clear, Broaddus said Dallas had been working on a potential deal without mentioning player names at all. The context of how he described it was that Dallas wanted to really see what they had, but also wanted to prepare a contingency plan if they were not satisfied. He said nothing about things heating up and the inference was that nothing would happen until TC or even during the season.

This article has no more credibility than a post here (as less credibility than some of the posts here).

Sports and Goal? Really? The person who wrote that doesn't even list his last name.

Thanks "Tom."
 

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So, if Collins were our first round pick, which he could have, easily and even be labeled a steal--you would still cling to this idea about a "proven player" like Leary?

I doubt it. You are not even being honest with yourself.

First off, I would have questioned why they even drafted Collins so high since we have Leary and other needs. And I want competition for EVERY position, I don't care where a player was drafted, the best players should be on the field.

And I've said it in the past on here, this isn't a normal situation. Leary and young and has played at a high level, rookies usually aren't competing against that. First round picks are often drafted to fill a need. This whole "First round rookies usually start", yeah they start because the player ahead of them isn't as talented nor proven. That's not the case here.

So, I really couldn't care less about what you "doubt".
 

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First off, I would have questioned why they even drafted Collins so high since we have Leary and other needs. And I want competition for EVERY position, I don't care where a player was drafted, the best players should be on the field.

You do realize you just contradicted yourself, right?

On one hand, you question why drafting him so high and then state you value competition for EVERY position.

Unless you advocate drafting for need, I don't see how your stance has much behind it.
 
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You do realize you just contradicted yourself, right?

On one hand, you question why drafting him so high and then state you value competition for EVERY position.

Unless you advocate drafting for need, I don't see how your stance has much behind it.

You draft to give the scrubs competition

I think I figured it out
 

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Forte wouldn't be a step forward from DeMarco, but it wouldn't be a step back either. I hold out hope for Voldemort.
 

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You do realize you just contradicted yourself, right?

On one hand, you question why drafting him so high and then state you value competition for EVERY position.

Unless you advocate drafting for need, I don't see how your stance has much behind it.

That's not a contradiction at all?

You can bring in competition through FA or even later on in the draft. When you have issues at corner, safety, DT, and RB; you don't draft in the first for competition against a player who is playing at a high level.

Nothing contradictory about that. I want competition in camp (Which is what I was meaning in the first place), not starting jobs handed to players because of where they were selected or what a scout sheet said. Got it now?
 

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That's not a contradiction at all?

You can bring in competition through FA or even later on in the draft. When you have issues at corner, safety, DT, and RB; you don't draft in the first for competition against a player who is playing at a high level.

Nothing contradictory about that. I want competition in camp, not starting jobs handed to players because of where they were selected or what a scout sheet said. Got it now?

No, not really. Try again.
 

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Why does everyone assume Collins will replace Leary? Old Man Free could be replaced by Collins as well. No talk of trading him though.

Well, Free's not really that old as OTs go. He just signed a 3 (?) year extension, and Leary's going to be a free agent after the season. Plus the transition inside to LG ought to be easier for Collins as a rookie. It just makes the most sense.
I don't think the team wanted the risk of extending Leary to the big deal he's likely to get from somebody this coming offseason given the degenerative knee condition and the deals for Frederick and Martin coming up. Leary was the likely odd man out, and getting Collins there for 3 years makes that sort of a no-brainer.

And it lets us develop Chaz Green to take over for Free at whatever point if he's able to, since he's a more natural swing tackle, anyway.

EDIT: re: Forte, I don't want to trade anything of any consequence whatsoever for a 29 year old RB I'm not sure is going to play better than Randle, anyway. I know he's been a very good back in this league for some time, but he's diminishing, and expensive, and those things matter. If anything, I'd rather give up a player we're likely to cut at that end of camp to a team that's got an abundance of RBs and is in the same position, if there's a good fit for us somewhere out there. Otherwise, let's see what we've got before making any moves.
 

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Well, Free's not really that old as OTs go. He just signed a 3 (?) year extension, and Leary's going to be a free agent after the season. Plus the transition inside to LG ought to be easier for Collins as a rookie. It just makes the most sense.
I don't think the team wanted the risk of extending Leary to the big deal he's likely to get from somebody this coming offseason given the degenerative knee condition and the deals for Frederick and Martin coming up. Leary was the likely odd man out, and getting Collins there for 3 years makes that sort of a no-brainer.

And it lets us develop Chaz Green to take over for Free at whatever point if he's able to, since he's a more natural swing tackle, anyway.

EDIT: re: Forte, I don't want to trade anything of any consequence whatsoever for a 29 year old RB I'm not sure is going to play better than Randle, anyway. I know he's been a very good back in this league for some time, but he's diminishing, and expensive, and those things matter. If anything, I'd rather give up a player we're likely to cut at that end of camp to a team that's got an abundance of RBs and is in the same position, if there's a good fit for us somewhere out there. Otherwise, let's see what we've got before making any moves.

I'm just not trusting Green to do anything than be a quality back up. I guess I'll see. I'd rather we keep Leary, let Collins develop into our next RT, trade Free, and kick the tires on what we already have and maybe add Moreno into the mix as well.
 

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I'm just not trusting Green to do anything than be a quality back up. I guess I'll see. I'd rather we keep Leary, let Collins develop into our next RT, trade Free, and kick the tires on what we already have and maybe add Moreno into the mix as well.

Yeah. Right now I'm seeing Green be spectacularly unspectacular.
 

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We don't need no stickin' RB right now. We wait on performance of those here with the thought there could be injuries that demand action. I like Moreno more than Johnson. I'd be interested in seeing Jackson playing FB/RB and forget about a pure blocking back. Garrett doesn't agree IMO but that's his problem. He never listens to me anymore. Doubt Jackson would want that role anyway. :cool:
 

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I'm just not trusting Green to do anything than be a quality back up. I guess I'll see. I'd rather we keep Leary, let Collins develop into our next RT, trade Free, and kick the tires on what we already have and maybe add Moreno into the mix as well.

I just think Leary's too good. Some team will take a reasonable chance on that knee. Who knows what the team's planning. It sounds like the expectation is to put Collins at LG, but I bet they start there and then try him at RT, too, after a week or so in camp. Maybe you get your wish.
 

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I'm good with what we have going into camp, but if it doesn't work out and we were to make a reasonable trade, put me down for Miller. Good ZBS RB with power and quickness.
 
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