Matt Johnson Heading To Season Ending IR per Broaddus

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Not a shocker. He's done nothing to warrant a roster spot because he's been hurt.

Hit the reset button and try again next year.
 

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Trying to save face for investing a 4th round pick.
I remember how they talked about sweating it out after taking Wilber with the 113th pick that Johnson would "last" until pick 135.
Amazingly he did.
I really like a lot of the things we have done in the draft in recent years, but we miss on so many of the mid round guys. I guess it's better than when we used to miss on 2nd and 3rd rounders, but we still need to get better.
Josh Thomas, 5th round (2011), a waste. David Arkin, 4th round (2011), only slightly more usefull. Danny Coale, 5th round (2012) a waste, Matt Johnson, 4th round (2012), a waste, Kyle Wilbur, 4th round (2012), looks to be a waste. This year's draft looks better, but that's 5 picks that we have very little to show for.
 

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Dallas had a young player with physical talent that had a bunch of injuries his first two years in the league. Jimmy Johnson cut him saying he would never stay healthy.

His name was WR Jimmy Smith, he stayed healthy for the next 11 seasons in Jacksonville and caught 862 career passes in that time. There is no downside whatsoever in this move with Matt Johnson.
 

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I believe in the impact of a top FS. He plays with his eyes in the backfield. He's in a position to make plays.

It's the people searching for firmer footing in rebuttal to my stance on cornerbacks that have lumped safeties into that mix.

ah, so you don't hate all DBs, learn something new everyday :)
 

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Trying to save face for investing a 4th round pick.

I remember how they talked about sweating it out after taking Wilber with the 113th pick that Johnson would "last" until pick 135.

Amazingly he did.

And, amazingly, the team has been trying like crazy to get him on the field, but the guy just can't stay healthy. Now, the team may be wrong re: what they're seeing in practice, but it's obvious they really like the guy and want to keep his rights. Pretending it's 'trying to save face,' whatever that means, just because it's not provable isn't a very impressive argument.
 

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At some point we just need to remove ourselves from him. He's too injury proned.

Yes, and they will but it isn't hurting anything to retain his rights and let him try again next year. If he gets hurt again, that will probably be the end of it. If Heath and Wilcox show anything this year, he may not be needed anyway and may be gone even if healthy. There simply is no need to cut him now. Give him one more chance to get and stay healthy.
 

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I really like a lot of the things we have done in the draft in recent years, but we miss on so many of the mid round guys. I guess it's better than when we used to miss on 2nd and 3rd rounders, but we still need to get better.
Josh Thomas, 5th round (2011), a waste. David Arkin, 4th round (2011), only slightly more usefull. Danny Coale, 5th round (2012) a waste, Matt Johnson, 4th round (2012), a waste, Kyle Wilbur, 4th round (2012), looks to be a waste. This year's draft looks better, but that's 5 picks that we have very little to show for.

look around the nfl. there are stars from mid rounds but there are lots more guys who don't make it. thats the nature of the nfl. the lower you get in the draft, the less chance of hitting on a guy.
 

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Dallas had a young player with physical talent that had a bunch of injuries his first two years in the league. Jimmy Johnson cut him saying he would never stay healthy.

His name was WR Jimmy Smith, he stayed healthy for the next 11 seasons in Jacksonville and caught 862 career passes in that time. There is no downside whatsoever in this move with Matt Johnson.

There are dozens of guys every year who are too hurt to play who do not pan out. This team alone has seen a few in the last couple years.

The fact that some player at some point in time actually developed into healthy start after being hurt doesn't change the reality that it almost never happens that way.

It's time for people to stop looking for reasons to justify their hope. Until this particular player shows he can withstand a couple weeks of practice, no amount of comparisons to Jimmy Smith will change the fact that he's too fragile.
 

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And, amazingly, the team has been trying like crazy to get him on the field, but the guy just can't stay healthy. Now, the team may be wrong re: what they're seeing in practice, but it's obvious they really like the guy and want to keep his rights. Pretending it's 'trying to save face,' whatever that means, just because it's not provable isn't a very impressive argument.

Well you have to understand. I don't approach these things with the agenda of defending the team. I try to see it for what it really is. That's sort of unique around here.

Nobody outside of Dallas thought Matt Johnson was worth an early call as an UDFA. People scoffed at the 4th round reach. It stands to reason when you invest a 4th round pick on that player, you give him every chance to prove you right. That's what's going on now.

But anybody with a lick of sense knows Matt Johnson can't play and will flame out of the league in short order. There can be a ton of dissension to that statement now, again....in defense of the team, but it will be proven to be true in the not too distant future. The guy should never have been drafted by anybody.
 

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There are dozens of guys every year who are too hurt to play who do not pan out. This team alone has seen a few in the last couple years.

The fact that some player at some point in time actually developed into healthy start after being hurt doesn't change the reality that it almost never happens that way.

It's time for people to stop looking for reasons to justify their hope. Until this particular player shows he can withstand a couple weeks of practice, no amount of comparisons to Jimmy Smith will change the fact that he's too fragile.

Stop. Matt Johnson is just like Jimmy Smith. If you can't see that, find another team.
 

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Well you have to understand. I don't approach these things with the agenda of defending the team. I try to see it for what it really is. That's sort of unique around here.

Nobody outside of Dallas thought Matt Johnson was worth an early call as an UDFA. People scoffed at the 4th round reach. It stands to reason when you invest a 4th round pick on that player, you give him every chance to prove you right. That's what's going on now.

But anybody with a lick of sense knows Matt Johnson can't play and will flame out of the league in short order. There can be a ton of dissension to that statement now, again....in defense of the team, but it will be proven to be true in the not too distant future. The guy should never have been drafted by anybody.

Well, you have to understand, I don't necessarily agree with your description of how you approach things. :)

The guy was a middling pick who was considered a reach relative to draft projections. The team was obviously very happy about his selection at the time (draft room camera), and they tried hard to keep him active last season based almost entirely off of very limited practice time. And the guy just can't stay healthy.

This year, they're choosing to keep his rights yet again. Read into that what you will, but it is what it is. My opinion is he's a guy they really want to see what they've got with, and there's no reason to belittle the pick just because it wasn't what Mike Mayock would have done or because they guy's been hurt. If he can't ever get on the field, he'll get cut. But as long as it costs us little or nothing to keep his rights, we're apparently determined to find out what he's got.
 

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Well, you have to understand, I don't necessarily agree with your description of how you approach things. :)

The guy was a middling pick who was considered a reach relative to draft projections. The team was obviously very happy about his selection at the time (draft room camera), and they tried hard to keep him active last season based almost entirely off of very limited practice time. And the guy just can't stay healthy.

This year, they're choosing to keep his rights yet again. Read into that what you will, but it is what it is. My opinion is he's a guy they really want to see what they've got with, and there's no reason to belittle the pick just because it wasn't what Mike Mayock would have done or because they guy's been hurt. If he can't ever get on the field, he'll get cut. But as long as it costs us little or nothing to keep his rights, we're apparently determined to find out what he's got.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're doing everything they can to prove they weren't idiots for massively reaching on a player who wasn't draftable.

But the end to this story is Matt Johnson selling insurance while his name joins a long list of terrible draft day decisions.
 

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Dallas had a young player with physical talent that had a bunch of injuries his first two years in the league. Jimmy Johnson cut him saying he would never stay healthy.

His name was WR Jimmy Smith, he stayed healthy for the next 11 seasons in Jacksonville and caught 862 career passes in that time. There is no downside whatsoever in this move with Matt Johnson.

I really wish people would get their facts straight about this story.

He should not be used as a poster child for people too scared to move on from players who cannot even get on the field to play at all.

Jimmy Smith actually played some and was hurt, but not football-related other than his broken leg in his rookie year.Jimmy Smith was cut moreso because of a snit with Jerry Jones than anything else.

Soon thereafter Smith made one heck of an enemy: his boss. At the start of the 1993 seasonCowboysownerJerry Jonesplaced Smith on the reserve/nonfootball-injury list, meaningDallaswasn't obligated to pay his $350,000 salary. Smith filed a grievance through theNFL Players Association, which claimed a hit he had taken in an exhibition game had contributed to the appendicitis and that he hadn't received adequate treatment from the team when the symptoms of the condition appeared. In December of that year an arbitrator ruled that the appendicitis was football-related, and Smith received his salary and a playoff share.
"I understood it from Jerry's point of view as a businessman, but I felt it was adding insult to injury? Smith says. "What's $350,000 to him? He had a team of lawyers, some of the best in the country, and I'm sure he spent more than $350,000 in legal fees. You don't beatJerry Jonesand get away with it."
In July 1994Jones, who declined comment about the episode, called Smith into his office and told him he'd be released if he didn't take a pay cut. Smith, figuring he was doomed inDallasanyway, refused, ending hisCowboyscareer with two Super Bowl rings and no catches. Also at that meeting was coachBarry Switzer, who had taken over four months earlier. Recalls Smith, "Barry said, 'I hear they call you Silk [a nickname from high school]. I haven't seen that yet.' Half of me wanted to punch him, and the other half wanted to bust out laughing."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1018641/index.htm
 

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The team was obviously very happy about his selection at the time (draft room camera)

Has there never been a time where Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones were not fist pumping or high fiving over a draft choice? What does that prove other than they were doing what they always do, thinking they pulled the wool over everyone else's eyes when in reality, and as their track record proves, their supposed "clever" pick was actually nothing close to it.
 

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I really wish people would get their facts straight about this story.

He should not be used as a poster child for people too scared to move on from players who cannot even get on the field to play at all.

Jimmy Smith actually played some and was hurt, but not football-related other than his broken leg in his rookie year.Jimmy Smith was cut moreso because of a snit with Jerry Jones than anything else.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1018641/index.htm

Thank you!!! You guys on here keep using Jimmy Smith and Danny Amendola (2 players out of hundreds) to justify keeping uselessness on this team. "Potential" is nothing if your never gonna have the opportunity to show it, and now honestly, who even sees him being healthy next year? I have no confidence in his health.

Also...PUP list wasn't an option? Is he really that hurt?
 
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