McFaddens top 100 players vid

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Not comparing those two. Point is that people are salivating over the Peterson from 3 years ago. We don't know what we would get plus we're giving up a draft pick. I believe McFadden will flourish behind this line and away from the black hole of Oakland

We don't know what were gonna get with McFadden either. Frankly, I know Peterson would tear it up here in Dallas. Its been his dream to play there and makes no qualms about it. If Peterson plays for Dallas, there is no question in my mind he will be productive.
 

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It's another low risk move by Dallas.
If it pays off, then great.
I'll keep my expectations in check though, but without completely writing him off.

I don't think much of any of these running backs but I certainly have more hope that Randle or Williams can emerge than I do McFadden.

Can he eclipse 3.3 a carry here? Sure. But can he be the bell cow to the top rushing attack in the league? Highly doubtful.
 

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It's another low risk move by Dallas.
If it pays off, then great.
I'll keep my expectations in check though, but without completely writing him off.

Seems logical. We got him cheap if it pays off what a steal. If it doesn't so be it. Personally I think he will flourish behind this line
 

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Wow McFadden averaged around 3 yards a carry for the last 3 years. There isn't a lot of backs that can do that.

I don't care what he did in Oakland. If he can't get 4.5 ypc here, he will be promptly cut and replaced with someone who can. Whoever the next back is will be a product of this oline.

How many yards do you think DM29 will have this year in Philly?
 

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I don't think much of any of these running backs but I certainly have more hope that Randle or Williams can emerge than I do McFadden.

Can he eclipse 3.3 a carry here? Sure. But can he be the bell cow to the top rushing attack in the league? Highly doubtful.

None of the guys we have scream bell cow. Then again the guy who left was always spilling the milk
 

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"McFadden will be fine..."

Nothing in history to make you think he will be fine in the future. Pointing out exceptions like, "Well, Forsett did this" or "Remember that one player who did that one thing on that one team back in 1979" are not great arguments. It's fine if people want to have blind faith that McFadden will rush and beat Dickerson's record, but don't act surprised when there are those who think he'll be hurt by week 3 and have some lingering injury he sustained while riding the bench that hampers his performance the rest of the season.
 

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I realize you're trying to be funny but Weeden has sucked every single year he has been in the nfl. So talking about a draft guide for an him even in 2012 is foolish. Not to mention 2012 is the year Adrian Peterson broke all those rushing records but people have no problem selling the farm to get him for his production 3 from 3 years ago, but won't give McFadden any faith when he was good 3 years ago and is even younger than Peterson? Lol gotcha.

You're not going to get him to argue on merit. He compared an NCAA prospect to an NFL top 100 and he comments on you speaking to RBs relative ages as if it's not valid. His response to you was to again blanket dismiss what you say.

Don't worry, other people see it for what it is.
 

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"McFadden will be fine..."

Nothing in history to make you think he will be fine in the future. Pointing out exceptions like, "Well, Forsett did this" or "Remember that one player who did that one thing on that one team back in 1979" are not great arguments. It's fine if people want to have blind faith that McFadden will rush and beat Dickerson's record, but don't act surprised when there are those who think he'll be hurt by week 3 and have some lingering injury he sustained while riding the bench that hampers his performance the rest of the season.

That works both ways and not just with everything that goes counter to your narrative.
 

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That works both ways and not just with everything that goes counter to your narrative.

No, having to point out exceptions of RBs with very little success finding success 7 years into their career is not a good argument. It's not something ANYONE should expect others to have faith or understanding in. If you want to, that's fine. Simple fact is, it's a mistake to be going into the season with a first round bust at RB with a history of injuries that have slowed him down and backups that are backups for a reason and thinking these guys can have the job done.

Let me ask you: If McFadden goes down, do you feel comfortable with Randle, Williams, and Dunbar having to share the workload? If you are comfortable with that, I would like to know your reasoning.
 

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I don't know why everyone continues to argue over whose going to do what and get 1400-1500 yards as the lead back.

It's pretty clear Dallas doesn't have a lead back at this point. They're going in with a running back by committee (Unless they add AP) and whoever the hot hand is will be who they're going to ride from week to week.

All this fighting over whose going to do this and whose going to do that is pretty much pointless.
 

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No, having to point out exceptions of RBs with very little success finding success 7 years into their career is not a good argument. It's not something ANYONE should expect others to have faith or understanding in. If you want to, that's fine. Simple fact is, it's a mistake to be going into the season with a first round bust at RB with a history of injuries that have slowed him down and backups that are backups for a reason and thinking these guys can have the job done.

Let me ask you: If McFadden goes down, do you feel comfortable with Randle, Williams, and Dunbar having to share the workload? If you are comfortable with that, I would like to know your reasoning.

Yes I would. I am not expecting any of them to be outstanding alone but I'm more than comfortable that with this O-Line, and their ability, that they can get the job done with that group just fine.
 

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Yes I would. I am not expecting any of them to be outstanding alone but I'm more than comfortable that with this O-Line, and their ability, that they can get the job done with that group just fine.

What abilities? Randle doing well in limited carries behind a workhorse RB? Dunbar's limited receptions as a scatback? Williams hasn't done anything the NFL, he looked decent in preseason, that is all.

None of this should evoke confidence in fans or even our staff. Liking what you saw in their limited opportunities? I get that. But you have to understand that this is a big risk and you should have a better backup plan than relying on this group of big unknowns.
 

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Nice video. Dallas acquired a good back. How productive will McFadden be for Dallas in 2015 is questionable. We will all find out for ourselves this season.

I sincerely hope no one uses the NFL Top 100 voting system as a means for validating the worth of any player though. It is a farce. Beauty pageant contestant voting systems are more reasonable in nature. lol. "NFL Top 100 for <insert year>". meh. How many years ago did Peyton Manning make the list at number 50 (I believe) without playing a single down due to injury? Peterson played one game in 2014 before his season was shut down. Who wants to predict that he won't be voted onto the current list by his peers despite that fact?
 

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Im in the camp that says Dmac will be quite fine and hopefully he has a career year here...Jerry will look like a genius.
 

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No, having to point out exceptions of RBs with very little success finding success 7 years into their career is not a good argument. It's not something ANYONE should expect others to have faith or understanding in. If you want to, that's fine. Simple fact is, it's a mistake to be going into the season with a first round bust at RB with a history of injuries that have slowed him down and backups that are backups for a reason and thinking these guys can have the job done.

Let me ask you: If McFadden goes down, do you feel comfortable with Randle, Williams, and Dunbar having to share the workload? If you are comfortable with that, I would like to know your reasoning.

You are taking uncertainty and waving your hands at your preferred outcome. Anyone can do that.

He has never had anything approximating the OL he has in front of him. Ever since Veldheer left two years ago their mediocre OL went into the toilet.
 

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McFadden will be fine. Whoever the back is will do fine. Top 10 rushing attack solely bc of oline play. I want to see what McFadden can do with actual running lanes. DM29 never did anything to make me say "wow, theres not many backs that could do what Murray just did." He just grinded out yards, not much flash. He just took what was there and always fell forward. This can be replaced. It's his blocking/catching/leadership that will be missed most.

exactly.... anyone who has watched Demarco Murray from the beginning can tell you he has some of the skills you mentioned, but he lacks a good sense of vision. Why do you think towards the end of two years ago into last year he had good production? Murray needs a line that will open lanes for him, otherwise he is just another RB.
 

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No, having to point out exceptions of RBs with very little success finding success 7 years into their career is not a good argument. It's not something ANYONE should expect others to have faith or understanding in. If you want to, that's fine. Simple fact is, it's a mistake to be going into the season with a first round bust at RB with a history of injuries that have slowed him down and backups that are backups for a reason and thinking these guys can have the job done.

Let me ask you: If McFadden goes down, do you feel comfortable with Randle, Williams, and Dunbar having to share the workload? If you are comfortable with that, I would like to know your reasoning.

actually yeah, I think Randle will take that role over and be great, but it will have to come at the expense of McFadden going down
 

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You are taking uncertainty and waving your hands at your preferred outcome. Anyone can do that.

He has never had anything approximating the OL he has in front of him. Ever since Veldheer left two years ago their mediocre OL went into the toilet.

And yet other RBs have ran behind bad lines in the past and have found success: Lamar Miller, 31st ranked run blocking line, 5 YPC with over 1,000 yards. McFadden's problems are not with the line, it's his health and his declining abilities.

This isn't about predicting the future, this is about getting bodies in here to make the future a little bit brighter or having some common sense as a coaching staff. Have a little more security at the RB position. You have two RBs known to be busts: McFadden and Williams. One has done nearly nothing as a starter outside of a single season, the other has played in 5 regular season games since being a pro. The others are either pace changers or play a single role. Why not bring in a back that has had similar production to McFadden in the past but not as severe injury history? Like Randle? Okay, fine, how about AT LEAST getting a guy in here with some more experience instead of rolling with Dunbar behind him?

That's the issue. Pessimism and optimism about the future of these backs doesn't matter, look at history that is really the only indicator for now. Our coaching staff and owner has done a terrible job with fixing this RB situation; whether it's arrogance or oversight, I don't know.
 

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We won't know how anyone will do behind this o-line until the cleats hits the turf of Giants stadium Sept. 13th. But I understand, it's May.
 
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