Mosley claims we love James Casey

[BAT]

if he is not a good blocker then we dont need him.

I'm sure Jerry will take that into consideration.

 

[BAT]

I definitely agree that this team can upgrade over Anderson, and my own mock draft represents that. In fact, I've been criticized for advocating Fiammetta in round 4 which many feel is too high.



I just can't see how that happens. In my opinion, he's simply too tall and too light to play fullback.

Look, now you're just being stubborn. Casey is 6'3 and 246 lbs. That is ONE inch taller and FOUR lbs HEAVIER than Moose Johnston.


Competitiveness: Casey plays with good field smarts and aggression. He will compete as a blocker at the line of scrimmage or in the open field (needs technique refinement) and likes the idea that the coaches will play him in a variety of roles every game, feeling that it not only keeps defenses honest, but has greatly improved his learning curve. He plays with good moxie and even though he is still a work in progress as a blocker, he attacks that role with a good attitude and urgency. He is very tough and competitive both before and after the catch and will not hesitate to go vertical for the ball with defenders closing on the play. GRADE: 7.0

Work Habits: Casey is a coach's dream, as he is a very hard worker who seems to really grasp the concept for being responsible and dedicated. He has worked hard to make himself a football player in such a short time. He might be considered a bit of an over-achiever, but it is in his nature to do whatever it takes to help the team. GRADE: 7.0

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1245173

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Don't "call" me, call the folks at Lindy's draft guide.

That's a direct quote from their scouts' review on him.

But I'm sure you know better.

Cut the crap. You're going to tell me you accept them saying that Casey doesn't have a lot of experience blocking from a 3 point stance and he's a TE....c'mon let's be realistic.

 

[Stash]

Look, now you're just being stubborn. Casey is 6'3 and 246 lbs. That is ONE inch taller and FOUR lbs HEAVIER than Moose Johnston.


Competitiveness: Casey plays with good field smarts and aggression. He will compete as a blocker at the line of scrimmage or in the open field (needs technique refinement) and likes the idea that the coaches will play him in a variety of roles every game, feeling that it not only keeps defenses honest, but has greatly improved his learning curve. He plays with good moxie and even though he is still a work in progress as a blocker, he attacks that role with a good attitude and urgency. He is very tough and competitive both before and after the catch and will not hesitate to go vertical for the ball with defenders closing on the play. GRADE: 7.0

Work Habits: Casey is a coach's dream, as he is a very hard worker who seems to really grasp the concept for being responsible and dedicated. He has worked hard to make himself a football player in such a short time. He might be considered a bit of an over-achiever, but it is in his nature to do whatever it takes to help the team. GRADE: 7.0

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1245173

I'll counter with this one:

James Casey Scouting Report


James Casey- Scouting Report
#12 | Rice
Height: 6′3″
Weight: 246
40 Time: 4.78
Bench Press: 28
Vertical Jump: 36″
Three Cone: 7.00
Best Fit Position/Role: H-Back or slot receiver
Ideal Scheme/Role: Spread offense
Games Scouted: Memphis, Army, SMU

Strengths: Casey is an extremely productive receiver with great athleticism. He has played all over the field, as a quarterback, tight end, receiver, and running back. He is a natural pass catcher with soft hands who catches the ball away from his body. He can get a free and quick release at the line of scrimmage, and shows good ability to beat the press when teams challenged him. He has good quickness and can find open holes against zone coverage. He is a dangerous threat after the catch because of good vision and running ability. Does not shy away from contact and has enough bulk to take a hit. When running with the ball, shows good security by drawing the ball into his body. He is a natural athlete who can make plays with the ball in his hands.

Weaknesses: Casey lacks a true position. Because of his size he’s going to be viewed as H-back in the NFL. He has only average timed speed. If he will be converted to tight end/H-back, he will need to be taught from the ground up how to block and proper blocking procedures. During his rookie year, he’ll turn 25 and he only has two years of college football experience after playing minor league baseball for three years out of high school. His route running skills will need to be tweaked in the NFL, because he can be sloppy. When coming back to the middle of the field, he can be muscled off his routes. In Rice’s offense, he mostly worked to get open, so he’s not as crisp in his breaks.

Overall:: Casey is a huge risk for teams because he’s so raw. His pass catching skills are elite, but can he convert to a pro style offense? He will be overdrafted because of his athleticism and upside. Teams who run spread style offenses could utilize him as a receiver in a variety of ways, which will be his best bet in the NFL. If he’s drafted by a pro style team, he will need intense work on blocking and route running





It's not like the guy has actually played the TE position, much less any talk of playing fullback!

He played receiver in a spread offense and was a jack-of-all-trades player.

While I can appreciate that type of versatility, I can't appreciate a player without a true position in round 3.

 

[Stash]

Cut the crap. You're going to tell me you accept them saying that Casey doesn't have a lot of experience blocking from a 3 point stance and he's a TE....c'mon let's be realistic.

I'll tell you that the guy was a jack-of-all-trades slot receiver in Rice's spread offense, not a true TE in any sense of the word, much less a fullback.

 

[BAT]

I'll counter with this one:

James Casey Scouting Report


James Casey- Scouting Report
#12 | Rice
Height: 6′3″
Weight: 246
40 Time: 4.78
Bench Press: 28
Vertical Jump: 36″
Three Cone: 7.00
Best Fit Position/Role: H-Back or slot receiver
Ideal Scheme/Role: Spread offense
Games Scouted: Memphis, Army, SMU

Strengths: Casey is an extremely productive receiver with great athleticism. He has played all over the field, as a quarterback, tight end, receiver, and running back. He is a natural pass catcher with soft hands who catches the ball away from his body. He can get a free and quick release at the line of scrimmage, and shows good ability to beat the press when teams challenged him. He has good quickness and can find open holes against zone coverage. He is a dangerous threat after the catch because of good vision and running ability. Does not shy away from contact and has enough bulk to take a hit. When running with the ball, shows good security by drawing the ball into his body. He is a natural athlete who can make plays with the ball in his hands.

Weaknesses: Casey lacks a true position. Because of his size he’s going to be viewed as H-back in the NFL. He has only average timed speed. If he will be converted to tight end/H-back, he will need to be taught from the ground up how to block and proper blocking procedures. During his rookie year, he’ll turn 25 and he only has two years of college football experience after playing minor league baseball for three years out of high school. His route running skills will need to be tweaked in the NFL, because he can be sloppy. When coming back to the middle of the field, he can be muscled off his routes. In Rice’s offense, he mostly worked to get open, so he’s not as crisp in his breaks.

Overall:: Casey is a huge risk for teams because he’s so raw. His pass catching skills are elite, but can he convert to a pro style offense? He will be overdrafted because of his athleticism and upside. Teams who run spread style offenses could utilize him as a receiver in a variety of ways, which will be his best bet in the NFL. If he’s drafted by a pro style team, he will need intense work on blocking and route running





It's not like the guy has actually played the TE position, much less any talk of playing fullback!

He played receiver in a spread offense and was a jack-of-all-trades player.

While I can appreciate that type of versatility, I can't appreciate a player without a true position in round 3.

I hate to break it to you Stash, but its not your call. Not being condescending, I've "known" you a long time and you are pretty reasonable for the most part. I know you have your favorite and your own opinion on whats best for the team, as we all do. But the Cowboys have not shown interest in Fiammetta, so I doubt he's an option. Further, Casey has much more upside.


And your scouting report only confirms what we have been telling you, Casey is at approximately the SAME size as Moose Johnston, he is plenty big, not too tall or too light.


And your scouting report also states that Casey did play TE (see underlined) and RB (see underlined) so he can and has blocked as a TE, and out of the backfield (Rice plays a spread offense, so when Casey is in the slot and they run the ball, all the receivers block, including Casey).



I understand you are invested in this, we all are to some extent, but trust in Ciskowski.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I'll tell you that the guy was a jack-of-all-trades slot receiver in Rice's spread offense, not a true TE in any sense of the word, much less a fullback.

This guy was a jack of all trades TE playing slot WR in Rice's spread offense.

 

[lane]

i can't wait to see him and unger wearing our colors.

 

[Stash]

I hate to break it to you Stash, but its not your call. Not being condescending, I've "known" you a long time and you are pretty reasonable for the most part. I know you have your favorite and your own opinion on whats best for the team, as we all do. But the Cowboys have not shown interest in Fiammetta, so I doubt he's an option. Further, Casey has much more upside.

I'm not taking it personally, but it's not your call either. We all have our favorites, and more than likely the Cowboys will draft few if any of them. And I can accept a differing opinion, I actually enjoy the debate.

And your scouting report only confirms what we have been telling you, Casey is at approximately the SAME size as Moose Johnston, he is plenty big, not too tall or too light.


And your scouting report also states that Casey did play TE (see underlined) and RB (see underlined) so he can and has blocked as a TE, and out of the backfield (Rice plays a spread offense, so when Casey is in the slot and they run the ball, all the receivers block, including Casey).

That's like saying that Ronnie Brown is a quarterback.

I mean he lined up there several times, right?

Same thing.

Maybe we should call Pennington a receiver as well?

Just because Casey may have lined up at a position, doesn't make him one.

I'm not trying to minimize the guy and I do feel he would add to an offense, but not at fullback, and not in the third round.

 

[Stash]

This guy was a jack of all trades TE playing slot WR in Rice's spread offense.

Wow.

OK, if that makes you feel better, go with it.

 

[BAT]

i can't wait to see him and unger wearing our colors.

I'd be happy with either of them, both almost seems to much to hope for, especially since not a peep of Kruger at VR.


But some other high character, high motor, high intensity, high football IQ, instinctive, ultra productive football playing guys:


DL Mitch King
LB Jason Williams
C Alex Mack
C Max Unger
C Eric Wood
S Pat Chung
S Louis Delmas
LB David Veikune
LB Zack Follett
DE Rulon Davis
DE Zach Potter
WR Juquin Iglesias
WR Mike Thomas
WR Johnny Knox
OG Louis Vasquez
OG Roger Allen

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Wow.

OK, if that makes you feel better, go with it.

LoL what ever man.

 

[lane]

I'd be happy with either of them, both almost seems to much to hope for, especially since not a peep of Kruger at VR.


But some other high character, high motor, high intensity, high football IQ, instinctive, ultra productive football playing guys:


DL Mitch King
LB Jason Williams
C Alex Mack
C Max Unger
C Eric Wood
S Pat Chung
S Louis Delmas
LB David Veikune
LB Zack Follett
DE Rulon Davis
DE Zach Potter
WR Juquin Iglesias
WR Mike Thomas
WR Johnny Knox
OG Louis Vasquez
OG Roger Allen

who's kruger?

 

[Stash]

LoL what ever man.

Yeah.

LOL.

Keep 'laughing' kid.

Ignorance is bliss.

When all else fails, throw out a 'whatever'.

Like I said, I'm sure you know better from your parents' basement, than those guys getting paid to do this...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

James Casey 4 Life!

 

[Stash]

James Casey 4 Life!

Instigator!

Don't make me go all 'Ron Brace' on you 'cause I will!

 

[BAT]

who's kruger?

LOL. Sorry man, I thought you were referring to Paul Kruger, OLB, Utah 6'4 263 4.79. Kruger was the undisputed leader of the Utah D that went undefeated. Fiery, physical and instinctive former QB is able to play faster than his timed speed due to his superior read and recognition skills. Some scouts are projecting him inside due to surprising ability to drop into coverage and physicality against the run. Tough as nails competitor.

 

[BAT]

Instigator!

Don't make me go all 'Ron Brace' on you 'cause I will!

You mean you'll dance with him for a bit, while someone else makes a tackle?



A bit more on Casey in case you did not bother w/the link:


Blocking Ability: Casey has good power and shows urgency, but is a bit inconsistent here. Still, he is a work in progress, but with his work ethic he just needs patient coaching to teach him proper blocking techniques (in the spread, he was not asked to block much at Rice). He gets to the second level with good angle concept to either cut or wall off. When blocking on the down side, he just needs to realize it is better to out-power rather than try to finesse. His problems occur at the line of scrimmage, where he fails to sink his weight, which lets defenders walk him back into the pocket at times. He can adjust to moving targets, but learning in-line blocking concepts will take time. GRADE: 4.8

 

[28 Joker]

I'll say this. He looks like a fullback. The Dolphins pick at 60. He may not make it to 69. If Dallas wants him, they may have to take him at 51.

I just heard Brian Broaddus says that the Cowboys love Mohamed Massaquoi, and he says he could be the pick at 51. He mentions Massaquoi or a safety.

The Bears like Massaquoi, too. They worked him out. They may choose between a safety and Massaquoi. The Lions love him, too.

I really like Massaquoi. He's good enough to see the field, imo. He's a good football player and high character guy. He can work that middle, too. He's a good route runner. He's tough. He is sneaky deep. He was a team captain. He has very good size and speed.

I have to say Casey is interesting. If he could be like the Moose, he could help the Cowboys' offense. He could run the Wild Cowboy, too.

 

[BAT]

I think Casey contributes sooner than Massaquoi. I have heard that Massaquoi is a great interview, everyone comes away loving the living heck out of him, then they look at the film again and come to their senses. I hope.