My Draft Rant

[DaBoys4Life]

I do, this team does not suffer from lack of talent as it appears you think it does. This team suffers from individualism and lack of coachability.

TO sucked all the coaches and Romo's attention much to the point of altering entire gameplans.

Too many players like TO, who himself finds it "ok" to show up late for every practice and finding no backlash from the coaching staff for doing so, feel the game plan is theirs and to hell with what is best for the team. What do you think such examples created for the team atmosphere?

If removing TO, Pacman, and anyone else who is a distraction does not fix this team's problem, then it is because the coaching staff is not man enough to be coaches not due to lack of talent. I mean how does a 13-3 team with so much talent play so lowly? Any other coaching staff would be sitting those players much earlier and fixing the problem asap which is what I am hoping the Cowboys are doing now. If not, hello Shanahan.

I don't think it's suffers from a lack of coachability as more it suffers from poor coaching. No I don't want to hear when wade took over the d blah blah blah. Nor do I want to hear excuses about injury. Injury happens and no you will not be deep at every position as where are at the RB position. However, anyone with half a brain could see how terrible proctor was and yet we stuck with him. People knew brad johnson was finished in pre season yet we didn't get a credible back up. Bobby Carpenter suck still suck yet he still on the roster. Know we want to give the young WR time to develop because we may have something special with them Didn't they say that last year when they cut TG? Then turn around and trade for RW 4 weeks into the season because they weren't getting it done. Supposedly we're cleaning house and getting rid of the indivuals and stuff. Why is Bennett still here then? That doesn't make much since considering what he did in the off season. How poor his work ethic is. You don't build team commrodary by getting rid of a couple of players it hasn't to be something that the coaches instill which they don't. I'm not the biggest BP if anyone has seen me post about that guy but I did like the thing he did with the star and the helmet.

 

[DFWJC]

they reached with their 1st 2 picks

and overloaded on NTs

You could be right after further review. We'll see. Have to admit that for sure Chung and Brace were not picked to far of place (high or low).
I love Darious Butler, but even that wasn't a pure steal.
Branton Tate works in NE b/c they handle that stuff so well, but even he could be a problem later.

I think all three of those players wold have helped us, but they did have a number one to work with and we should include RW as part of our draft to be fair.

 

[RamziD]

they reached with their 1st 2 picks

and overloaded on NTs

Seriously. NE picked Patrick Chung at #34. Half this board would've gone bonkers if we took him at #51. Then they took Clint Sintim who was doing nothing but dropping down draft boards for the last month. Kudos for them for acquiring more picks next year... they had enough early picks and are deep enough that they could do that.

Edit: Sorry, thought they drafted Sintim with their next pick. Brace is not a reach IMO.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

You're absolutely right. No back-up center and no FB that we will hardly ever use anyway is going to cost us about 7-8 games this year. Spot on analysis.

So you trust Proctor as our back up Center? You do realize that Anderson is the reason why Romo got injured. You also realize that Anderson is a terrible lead blocker right? Can't run the ball and isn't a passing threat out of the back field. Why keep him ?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Seriously. NE picked Patrick Chung at #34. Half this board would've gone bonkers if we took him at #51. Then they took Clint Sintim who was doing nothing but dropping down draft boards for the last month. Kudos for them for acquiring more picks next year... they had enough early picks and are deep enough that they could do that.

they took Rone Brace at 40, and he had a 58 value on Goose's top 100

 

[RamziD]

they took Rone Brace at 40, and he had a 56 or 58 value on Goose's top 100

Yeah, my bad. I fixed it on my last post.

 

[SDogo]

I don't think it's suffers from a lack of coachability as more it suffers from poor coaching. No I don't want to hear when wade took over the d blah blah blah. Nor do I want to hear excuses about injury. Injury happens and no you will not be deep at every position as where are at the RB position. However, anyone with half a brain could see how terrible proctor was and yet we stuck with him. People knew brad johnson was finished in pre season yet we didn't get a credible back up. Bobby Carpenter suck still suck yet he still on the roster. Know we want to give the young WR time to develop because we may have something special with them Didn't they say that last year when they cut TG? Then turn around and trade for RW 4 weeks into the season because they weren't getting it done. Supposedly we're cleaning house and getting rid of the indivuals and stuff. Why is Bennett still here then? That doesn't make much since considering what he did in the off season. How poor his work ethic is. You don't build team commrodary by getting rid of a couple of players it hasn't to be something that the coaches instill which they don't. I'm not the biggest BP if anyone has seen me post about that guy but I did like the thing he did with the star and the helmet.

Your right.........what do you say we leave this board and become Lions fans.....you first...........I'll be right behind............

Seriously, what would make you happy? I don't believe for one minute Dallas could of done anything right in your mind this weekend.

 

[dadymat]

you forgot our 1st round pick of RW11...in my mind we got 1 of the 2 best WRs in the draft.....

So, not getting a FB and a backup C cause us to go to 5-11? Where do you get your reasoning from?

exactly.........we are a at least a 10-6 team before the draft....dont see how this made us worse......

This time last year the rants were similar.


How oh how could we use a 2nd on another TE... how oh how could we draft 2 RBs when we already had Marion Barber... how oh how could we pass Mendenhall who is the worlds best player like ever for Felix Jones who sucks and is not good enough to start in college ... why did we take another Cb in Scandrick after Jenkins.. so we'd have a special teamer of course ....

Bottom line here is the Dallas Cowboys drafted guys they felt they had a plan for and they felt they got good value on their board which is the only one that matters.

4 of these guys were routinely in mocks to us in Brandon Williams, McGee, Jason Williams and John Phillips.

There's little chance Dallas hit son all these guys but I am willing to bet they hit on over half of them and that they will form a good nucleus of young players along with the top heavy draft last year.

this is what ive been thinking all day


my only problem with this draft (aside from drafting a kicker) is not trading some of those late rounders for early rounders next year ....it wouldve been nice to stock pile some 3 and 4s

 

[davey999]

That your rant was spot on from what I expected. I don't like the K pick but 5-11 come on.

If you were ranking the teams in the NFC East, where would the Cowboys be?

An argument can be made for 4th, if you say higher than 3rd you're delusional.

 

[RamziD]

So you trust Proctor as our back up Center? You do realize that Anderson is the reason why Romo got injured. You also realize that Anderson is a terrible lead blocker right? Can't run the ball and isn't a passing threat out of the back field. Why keep him ?

No I didn't say that at all. I, however, am not being completely irrational and reactionary by using that as a reason to predict us going 5-11.

 

[SDogo]

If you were ranking the teams in the NFC East, where would the Cowboys be?

An argument can be made for 4th, if you say higher than 3rd you're delusional.

You can easily question every move the Giants and Eagles made. EASILY

I don't get you people.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Your right.........what do you say we leave this board and become Lions fans.....you first...........I'll be right behind............

Seriously, what would make you happy? I don't believe for one minute Dallas could of done anything right in your mind this weekend.

That's not true. Jerry trading up for Crabtree? LoL j/k.

I just think we passed on some good players for people who won't be more than ST players. Players that won't push starters no can they compete or are the expected to compete for starter jobs. Just fall into line and if we don't have to many at that position you are on the team. Performance doesn't matter just whos been here the longest.

 

[DFWJC]

You could be right after further review. We'll see. Have to admit that for sure Chung and Brace were not picked to far of place (high or low).
I love Darious Butler, but even that wasn't a pure steal.
Branton Tate works in NE b/c they handle that stuff so well, but even he could be a problem later.

I think all three of those players wold have helped us, but they did have a number one to work with and we should include RW as part of our draft to be fair.

Furthermore. Does it seem like we reache enoemously when we grabbed Brewster at 75 (I've seen him rated 154th by one group) or Butler at 110 (seen him as low as 263rd)? Just have to have faith that we see something special there.

 

[SDogo]

That's not true. Jerry trading up for Crabtree? LoL j/k.

I just think we passed on some good players for people who won't be more than ST players. Players that won't push starters no can they compete or are the expected to compete for starter jobs. Just fall into line and if we don't have to many at that position you are on the team. Performance doesn't matter just whos been here the longest.

My point is, I ask anyone who did a Cowboys mock before the draft to take a look at it and see just how many players they picked went where they thought. I'm not talking to the Cowboys, I'm talking even in the same round as you predicted.

How many people picked Gilbert, Sidbury or Duke Robinson in the 2nd? That's only a small sample. I don't think the issue is with the who the Cowboys picked as much as it is some people cant admit they don't know as much as they want to think they do.

I'll wait and pass judgment when these guys take the field and trust the scouts who are already going over the players in 2010 draft that will be complaining about 364 days from now.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Furthermore. Does it seem like we reache enoemously when we grabbed Brewster at 75 (I've seen him rated 154th by one group) or Butler at 110 (seen him as low as 263rd)? Just have to have faith that we see something special there.

Brewster was a slight reach, he was rated 81st by Goose

Butler probably went a few rounds too high, but that happens every year, I already showed an example of Philly taking OLB Bryan Smith in the 3rd last year, when he was rated a 7th rounder-UDFA by NFLDS

 

[DFWJC]

You can easily question every move the Giants and Eagles made. EASILY

I don't get you people.

I agree that almost every pick can be questioned by someone.

However, I look at Philly's draft and can say with almost certainly that they have become a much more dangerous team when you combine their draft with their offseason pickups. Hats off to them IMO.

I still hope we smoke those chumps!:suxiggle: :trophy:

 

[DaBoys4Life]

My point is, I ask anyone who did a Cowboys mock before the draft to take a look at it and see just how many players they picked went where they thought. I'm not talking to the Cowboys, I'm talking even in the same round as you predicted.

How many people picked Gilbert, Sidbury or Duke Robinson in the 2nd? That's only a small sample. I don't think the issue is with the who the Cowboys picked as much as it is some people cant admit they don't know as much as they want to think they do.

I'll wait and pass judgment when these guys take the field and trust the scouts who are already going over the players in 2010 draft that will be complaining about 364 days from now.

People do rise and fall on draft day however that doesn't invalidate someones opinion for example. Who would of thought that Heyward bay would go 7th to the raiders. Does that mean we discredit everyone that didn't have Heyward rated above crabtree?

 

[SDogo]

I agree that almost every pick can be questioned by someone.

However, I look at Philly's draft and can say with almost certainly that they have become a much more dangerous team when you combine their draft with their offseason pickups. Hats off to them IMO.

I still hope we smoke those chumps!:suxiggle: :trophy:

See, I debate that. Jason Peters is a hack with no motor. I fear Ruynan more then Peters. Sean Jones over Brian Dawkins..........I would much rather face Jones.

As far as the draft. Macklin is a clone of Jackson. They still don't have that big WR in the redzone or a guy that is going to kill you over the middle.

It's a wash at RB. McCoy could be the answer a few years from now but he's going to have a very limited roll as long as Westrbook is there.

 

[SDogo]

People do rise and fall on draft day however that doesn't invalidate someones opinion for example. Who would of thought that Heyward bay would go 7th to the raiders. Does that mean we discredit everyone that didn't have Heyward rated above crabtree?

I did, see my mock in the draft zone. lol

 

[DFWJC]

People do rise and fall on draft day however that doesn't invalidate someones opinion for example. Who would of thought that Heyward bay would go 7th to the raiders. Does that mean we discredit everyone that didn't have Heyward rated above crabtree?

The Raiders were embarrassing...especially with their second pick, Mike Mitchell. Hey, the guy may turn out to be good, but they letterally could have picked him up in the 6th or 7th round or even as a FA. Crazy!

Heyward-Bey to a much much lesser degree was a reach, so maybe they couldn't find a trading partner. For sure they could have picked up a third or maybe a 2nd to drop back and still get him.