NBA Free Agency

[MC KAos]

I got exited yesterday when I heard it was down to the spurs and bulls for pau. It's a shame he chose the bulls, oh well, best of luck to him there

 

[RS12]

CA: Can feel the passion for the sport. I hear you there for sure.
I coach year round and we seldom go more than a couple days without a practice or skills session.

Lakers taking on Nash was ridiculous because of all the first round picks they shipped off.

Mgmt obviously went downhill then they passed chance to make Phil major decision maker.

I don't think they are really in play for Love.
Yes, he loves Cali but there are 3 other teams in California and the Lakers are arguably in the worst shape of any of them.
Love says tasted all the losing he can stomache.
Not only that, the only building block LAL has is Julius Randle who also plays PF.

I put Love 50% top CLE with LeBron; 40% to GSW, 10% field.

Lakers fan are delusional and entitled led by a largely homeristic Lakers media contingent.
It's like they have 5 Mickey Spagnolas out there.

Good post. I agree the Lakers will be a train wreck for years. I think they had a great draft this year but the roster is a mess and there is no anchor star to draw free agent talent. I also think Kevin Love does not end up there.

 

[bounce]

I got exited yesterday when I heard it was down to the spurs and bulls for pau. It's a shame he chose the bulls, oh well, best of luck to him there

I would have liked him in SA, but it was more of a luxury than a need - and I didn't want OKC to get him. And it was more pressing when I thought Bosh was going to Houston. But, if he's going East, that's fine.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Rockets continue to boggle the mind. Trev Ariza? A guy they traded away...and now re-sign a few years later. smh

 

[WoodysGirl]

 

[MC KAos]

ya I'm just glad pau didn't go to the thunder and that bosh and carmelo didn't go to houston. all in all, none of the teams in the west have gotten much better, i think, as it stands right now, we have a really good chance to at least make it to the conference finals next season, barring any injuries.

GO SPURS GO!

 

[DFWJC]

Mavs get Parsons

Also going to sign Richard Jefferson for bench help.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Mavs get Parsons

Also going to sign Richard Jefferson for bench help.

That red glow on the horizon tonight is not a sunset. Its the epic meltdown on Clutchfans. Over 600 posts in 90 minutes on the Parsons leaving thread. Morey feeling the heat of the Rockets' (fans) red glare.

 

[DFWJC]

That red glow on the horizon tonight is not a sunset. Its the epic meltdown on Clutchfans. Over 600 posts in 90 minutes on the Parsons leaving thread. Morey feeling the heat of the Rockets' (fans) red glare.

If it helps, the Mavs purposely overpaid

 

[coogrfan]

That red glow on the horizon tonight is not a sunset. Its the epic meltdown on Clutchfans. Over 600 posts in 90 minutes on the Parsons leaving thread. Morey feeling the heat of the Rockets' (fans) red glare.

They're idiots. I like Parsons and I'm sorry to see he isn't going be a Rocket going forward, but this is unquestionably the right decision. If the Mavs are foolish enough to pay a role player $15 mil per year, let them.

 

[speedkilz88]

They're idiots. I like Parsons and I'm sorry to see he isn't going be a Rocket going forward, but this is unquestionably the right decision. If the Mavs are foolish enough to pay a role player $15 mil per year, let them.

Dirk dropped his salary so they could get him. In their system he could really flourish. He'll finally have a legit head coach.

 

[coogrfan]

Dirk dropped his salary so they could get him. In their system he could really flourish. He'll finally have a legit head coach.

Swell. The fact remains that the Mavs are paying a role player as if he is was already an established superstar.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Rockets stay swinging for the fences..

 

[bounce]

Swell. The fact remains that the Mavs are paying a role player as if he is was already an established superstar.

I think Parsons is about at his ceiling. He's never going to be the star on a team. He'll be, at best, a #2 guy. And 15M for a #2 guy (but more likely, a #3 guy) is a lot of money. Regardless of how much of a paycut Dirk took.

 

[WoodysGirl]

 

[jterrell]

I think Parsons is about at his ceiling. He's never going to be the star on a team. He'll be, at best, a #2 guy. And 15M for a #2 guy (but more likely, a #3 guy) is a lot of money. Regardless of how much of a paycut Dirk took.

Parsons numbers have improved every season and he is an efficient scorer that can dribble, shoot and pass.
He has definitely not reached any ceiling at 25 considering HOU never called plays for him.
He was a role player in HOU but he'll be a primary offensive weapon in DAL.
He will very likely be an All-Star this year.

 

[bounce]

Parsons numbers have improved every season and he is an efficient scorer that can dribble, shoot and pass.
He has definitely not reached any ceiling at 25 considering HOU never called plays for him.
He was a role player in HOU but he'll be a primary offensive weapon in DAL.
He will very likely be an All-Star this year.

I don't think he'll be anymore a primary weapon in Dallas than he was in Houston. Monta is still a ball-dominating guard like Harden. Dirk is still the focal point of the Dallas offense. At best, he's the third offensive option on that team. And I can't see any way he's an all-star this year. All-stars are broken up as G/F not SG, SF, PF, etc.

The West is already deep at F with just last year's roster: Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Griffin, Love (assuming he's in the West), Aldridge and Dirk. If you want to add him as a possible guard, now you're looking Harden, Parker, Curry, Paul, Lillard. All those are at worst the #2 guy on their own roster. Not to mention, the finals MVP plays the same position and might be a notch above Parsons in coaching selections as all-stars go.

The reasons I think he's about hit his ceiling is because he doesn't do any ONE thing amazingly. He's not an amazing shooter from the field or from 3. He's not a lockdown defender. He's not super fast. He's a very good player - but, he's a role player. A top role player but still a role player.

Just my opinion.

 

[jterrell]

I don't think he'll be anymore a primary weapon in Dallas than he was in Houston. Monta is still a ball-dominating guard like Harden. Dirk is still the focal point of the Dallas offense. At best, he's the third offensive option on that team. And I can't see any way he's an all-star this year. All-stars are broken up as G/F not SG, SF, PF, etc.

The West is already deep at F with just last year's roster: Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Griffin, Love (assuming he's in the West), Aldridge and Dirk. If you want to add him as a possible guard, now you're looking Harden, Parker, Curry, Paul, Lillard. All those are at worst the #2 guy on their own roster. Not to mention, the finals MVP plays the same position and might be a notch above Parsons in coaching selections as all-stars go.

The reasons I think he's about hit his ceiling is because he doesn't do any ONE thing amazingly. He's not an amazing shooter from the field or from 3. He's not a lockdown defender. He's not super fast. He's a very good player - but, he's a role player. A top role player but still a role player.

Just my opinion.

In the post season he averaged 19.3 PPG and 6.8 RPG.
Kawhi averaged 14.8 and 6.7 during his Finals MVP nod playoff run.

Suggesting Parsons is at his ceiling is much like suggesting the same of Kawhi which would be silly.

G/F/C designation is largely meaningless. Plenty of guys are tabbed out of position at F and always have.
Love is VERY likely going to CLE if only because that's where he wants to be be and will commit to an extension.

and here with an assist from Bryan Gutierrez. ... going to post in a seperate Parsons only thread. will leave off here .....

*Parsons was just one of six players who averaged at least 16.6 points, 5.5 rebounds and 4.0 assists last season. The other six were LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook, Gordon Hayward and Michael Carter-Williams.

*Add a field goal percentage of 45.0 or better to the above statistical category and the list includes only James, Durant, Love and Parsons.

*In terms of rebounding and facilitating, Parsons was one of just nine players to average both 5.5 rebounds and 4.0 assists last season. The others were James, Durant, Love, Joakim Noah, Nicolas Batum, Lance Stephenson, Russell Westbrook and Carter-Williams.

*He's going to get paid in the ballpark of $15 million per year. Looking at small forwards who hovered around $12-15 million last season (Andre Iguodala, Luol Deng and Paul Pierce), here's where they stack up statistically.

Iguodala: 9.3 points, 4.7 boards, 48 percent shooting & 57% True shooting -- $12.5 million
Deng: 16.0 points, 5.7 rebounds, 43% percent shooting & 52% True shooting -- $14 million
Pierce: 13.5 points, 4.6 rebounds, 45% percent shooting & 60% True shooting -- $15 million
Parsons: 16.6 points, 5.5 rebounds, 47% percent shooting & 56% True shooting

*Pace should come into play as well. Houston was one of the top teams in pace. Adjusting solely to per-100 possessions:
Pierce: 25/9
Deng: 24/9
Iguodala: 14/7
Parsons: 22/7

*Parsons delivered when teammates delivered the ball to him. He scored 64.4 percent of his points off assists.

*Parsons ran the break hard as 21.4 percent of his points came off fast breaks. He was second on the team in that department behind James Harden (27.3).

 

[bounce]

In the post season he averaged 19.3 PPG and 6.8 RPG.
Kawhi averaged 14.8 and 6.7 during his Finals MVP nod playoff run.

Parsons played 6 games in the playoffs and Kawhi played 23.

Parsons averaged 41 minutes per game - Kawhi averaged 29 minutes per game.

They're not even on the same planet defensively.

 

[jterrell]

Parsons played 6 games in the playoffs and Kawhi played 23.

Parsons averaged 41 minutes per game - Kawhi averaged 29 minutes per game.

They're not even on the same planet defensively.

all fair points but they don't change the numbers.
scoring and rebounding are the stats associated with success and Parson was excellent there even in the playoffs with Harden melting down.
Kawhi was great against the Heat but he wasn't that good versus the Mavs.
His +/- for the series was virtually even and was about 18 points negative before the game 7 blow out.

Kawhi's career avg numbers are lower than Parsons in virtually every area. They are out of the same draft class and two of the brighter young stars in the league.
Kawhi will get paid plenty next off-season.