NBC: Stephen Jones denies that Dez Bryant threatened to miss time **merged**

[Clarkson]

Enjoy getting an other hopeful season ruined by one selfish person much?

why is Dez selfish and the team isn't?
If he were offer $8MM a year should he take it just because it's a lot of money?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

why is Dez selfish and the team isn't?
If he were offer $8MM a year should he take it just because it's a lot of money?

But the team is not offering that. The team offered the tag, which represents the top Market value average. By all measures, that's a good indicator of what the market will support for a player at his position.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I read that article and while him sitting out games would prove to the Cowboys he means business, I suspect him sitting out just furthers their resolve. They'll draft a WR in this upcoming draft, they'll tag him again, and if some team wants to give him a long term deal and give up a 1st and 3rd round pick, they'll take it. PFT seems to think that if he does hold out that will make the Cowboys scramble to get to the table. I suspect the exact opposite happens.

He's proving their point that he isn't mature. If he sits out 10 games next year, I don't care if he does come back. I'll never look at him the same.

 

[Garrettop]

But the team is not offering that. The team offered the tag, which represents the top Market value average. By all measures, that's a good indicator of what the market will support for a player at his position.

The team/owners also doesn't really gain anything by not giving Bryant a larger contract. They are just trying to spend it wisely and not allocate too many dollars to a particular person. It's not like Jerrah and Stephen get to eat a few more steaks because they aren't paying Bryant an extra million a year.

 

[JoeKing]

why is Dez selfish and the team isn't?
If he were offer $8MM a year should he take it just because it's a lot of money?

The team's goal is on winning a trophy. Dez has lost that focus on that main goal and only wants to get paid what he wants. When you put your own goals above that of the team then you are the one at fault.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The team/owners also doesn't really gain anything by not giving Bryant a larger contract. They are just trying to spend it wisely and not allocate too many dollars to a particular person. It's not like Jerrah and Stephen get to eat a few more steaks because they aren't paying Bryant an extra million a year.

It's a caped league.

 

[Sydla]

It's the biggest regret the union has. By controlling what the elite players make, it's controlling what the average veteran makes.

Players are going to start doing like Hardy and insist that a clause is in their contract that prohibits the franchise tag. Dallas agreed to this with Hardy.

And the union won't give him millions, but they can certainly help. Players will support this if it helps to cripple the franchise play teams make.

Hey, I LOVE the franchise tag. I hate players moving all over the place to different teams.

You keep saying the first part but it's not true. The tag is based on average contracts, not the other way around. Plus there is a limit to how many tags one can get. And how often does a team tag someone twice? The idea that the tag somehow holds down salaries is a misnomer you keep trying to perpetuate.

Two, players have been able to negotiate for years that no franchise tag language. Most do not. So I am not sure how all of a sudden because Hardy did it, it's going to open the flood gates here.

Three, I think you overstate how many players would support giving Bryant welfare from their money. Players pay dues and part of those dues go to a war chest that is to be used to pay players in the event of a lockout or strike. I can guarantee that there will be quite a few players not happy if the NFLPA starts giving Bryant checks for some grandstanding event to break the franchise tag. Further, more than likely, if the league can find enough evidence to suggest that the NFLPA is doing this to circumvent the CBA rules, the NFLPA will find itself in a rather expensive and long legal proceeding. And when the next CBA comes up, you can bet that will a huge issue that will become non-negotiable from the owners perspective......... and likely with a court order behind it.

 

[Garrettop]

It's a caped league.

Precisely, and as per the 2011 CBA:

League-wide, teams were required to spend 99% of the cap in 2011 and 2012. In 2013 and beyond, they must spend 95% of the cap. In the event that player costs are less than this overall league minimum, then, on or before April 15 of the next League Year, the NFL must pay an amount equal to such deficiency directly to the players.


In terms of minimum salary for each team, the salary floor is 89% of the cap. That became effective in 2013, as this requirement was by-passed in 2011 and 2012. Hence, there was in essence no salary floor in 2011 or 2012.

A team simply cannot be "selfish" in the NFL with regard to following the salary cap rules.

 

[Rockport]

I'm taking a wait and see approach until we know more about the process. Right now all we know is that both sides are posturing.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

That would come at a very large price he would have to pay.

He will very easily make that money back

 

[coult44]

But the team is not offering that. The team offered the tag, which represents the top Market value average. By all measures, that's a good indicator of what the market will support for a player at his position.

"They offered the tag". That's funny!!! A great manipulation of how the tag really works.

 

[Sydla]

He will very easily make that money back

No he won't. Why do you people keep saying this?

If he sits out any games this year, he'll never get that money back. It's gone. It's not like he's going to get the Cowboys or next team to sign him to say, "Well gee, Dez, you sat out 10 games in 2015 costing you nearly $9MM. So since you did that we are going to give you that $9MM on top of what we would normally offer you".

If Dez sits out the 2015 season he loses nearly $13MM. And he's never getting that back.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

"They offered the tag". That's funny!!! A great manipulation of how the tag really works.

It's how the system was designed but lets say it's not based off the tag. Lets say it's on the contract, he's still being offered, according to reports, upwards of 12 million. Nobody really knows what the exact details are but that's still top money.

 

[casmith07]

It's a caped league.

Red cape like Superman, or black like Batman?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Red cape like Superman, or black like Batman?

LOL...........


I'm going with Under Dog on this one Smitty!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is kinda weird. I don't think it's credible but it is posted on spotrac.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dez-bryant/

 

[Sydla]

What am I missing on the spotrac link?

 

[FiveTime]

It says that Dez signed the franchise offer.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

No he won't. Why do you people keep saying this?

If he sits out any games this year, he'll never get that money back. It's gone. It's not like he's going to get the Cowboys or next team to sign him to say, "Well gee, Dez, you sat out 10 games in 2015 costing you nearly $9MM. So since you did that we are going to give you that $9MM on top of what we would normally offer you".

If Dez sits out the 2015 season he loses nearly $13MM. And he's never getting that back.

Well no crap he's not going to get a refund. Were referring to his eventual long term contract. Whether he gets it here or not, Dez will get his money and the contract value will be higher than what his fines will be this year.

 

[Garrettop]

It's not about whether the contract value is higher than this year's loss. it's about whether the loss would be more than whatever additional funds he could get over the current contract he is being offered. If he held out for 10 games, it wouldn't be.