Neighborhood watch captain kills black teen - doesn't get arrested

[iceberg]

Thank you WG!

from what i understand, he wasn't the small dude you saw in the football pic.

that's why i ask what other pics have been shown just so we can get a better idea outside of the media showing a smiling face in front of a crowd.

is that the ONLY pic they had of trayvon?

 

[iceberg]

Don't see what that has to do with anything. A Suspension doesn't equal a criminal or make it okay for Zimmerman to chase down Trayvon because Suspension or not Trayvon was doing nothing wrong during the time of his killing, besides walking and Zimmerman assuming that he was up to no good.

many times when asked why you're there you're not doing anything wrong.

if you're not, do you say so or do you fight?

the point is people see the worst in one and the best in the other.

it's just the cool thing to do at this point and i admire anyone waiting for the facts at this point.

 

[WoodysGirl]

he was also a football player so in shape.

nothing changes that unfortunately things liket his happen far too often and it's tragic all around.

But that's what I mean, being in football shape shape at 140-160lbs still doesn't seem overly big to me when I look at this kid.

And if things played as has been reported that he ran and Zim caught up w/him, then I don't think being in football shape helped him.

 

[trickblue]

I can't speak for every person but I'm basing my views on the 911 calls and what I think is Trayvon's voice calling out for help, on top of the fact that Zimmerman kept following Trayvon.

Part of the outrage has nothing to do with the Media the Media didn't make up a story about Zimmerman not being arrested and charged. The SPD admitted this and used the Law as an excuse for why they couldn't arrest and charge Zimmerman.

The SPD was acting like the Judge and Jury instead of letting it go to court

Remove yourself from the media frenzy and ask yourself this...

When was the last time you heard of "white latino"...

This case stinks from the start for what happened... but the media is fueling it...

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

I don't have the ref to read it... would be happy to...

My wife is from Mexico and said they consider it a slur to be referred to as a "white latino"... guess that isn't racist here...

Why is he considered white... because of his last name? His father also said he has been raised as Latino...

Why is he half white after an alleged crime? He would be (full) Latino if he was applying for a voting card...

When does this racial variation crap stop? This country was once known as a melting pot... it is now become Babylon...

Scrap this racial crap... it ain't working...

I don't know why the Media tries to say that he is White. Because it's not like other races can't have racists

 

[TheCount]

from what i understand, he wasn't the small dude you saw in the football pic.

that's why i ask what other pics have been shown just so we can get a better idea outside of the media showing a smiling face in front of a crowd.

is that the ONLY pic they had of trayvon?

I've seen two pics, young Trayvon in the maroon shirt and an updated pic with his hoodie up.

 

[Noryb]

from what i understand, he wasn't the small dude you saw in the football pic.

that's why i ask what other pics have been shown just so we can get a better idea outside of the media showing a smiling face in front of a crowd.

is that the ONLY pic they had of trayvon?

I've seen several pics of Trayvon including the one of him wearing a hoodie.

 

[iceberg]

But that's what I mean, being in football shape shape at 140-160lbs still doesn't seem overly big to me when I look at this kid.

And if things played as has been reported that he ran and Zim caught up w/him, then I don't think being in football shape helped him.

i just don't think everything has been reported. at least not accurately.

but many have already made up their minds so when facts do some out, will they be met with an open mind, or dismissed cause decisions already made?

for most, decisions made.

 

[WoodysGirl]

and the media doesn't highlight trayvon was on a 5 day suspension.

Does being on suspension from school change the events of that night? I've seen that mentioned before, but I'm not sure how that's relevant to the events of that night.

 

[iceberg]

Does being on suspension from school change the events of that night? I've seen that mentioned before, but I'm not sure how that's relevant to the events of that night.

if you're going to micro-analyze one side, do the other.

we see brief "violent" history from zimmerman so we establish a character.

no ones doing the same to the other side.

i just want the same stick held to both sides.

 

[Noryb]

But that's what I mean, being in football shape shape at 140-160lbs still doesn't seem overly big to me when I look at this kid.

And if things played as has been reported that he ran and Zim caught up w/him, then I don't think being in football shape helped him.

I know you're about facts but I believe that once Trayvon and Zimmerman lost visual contact with each other Trayvon stopped running and Zimmerman caught up with him later.

 

[iceberg]

I know you're about facts but I believe that once Trayvon and Zimmerman lost visual contact with each other Trayvon stopped running and Zimmerman caught up with him later.

why? why do you choose to believe something that has not been established?

no one knows what happened but a lot of people believe a lot of things.

is that to get justice, or feel better about ourselves?

 

[WoodysGirl]

i just don't think everything has been reported. at least not accurately.

but many have already made up their minds so when facts do some out, will they be met with an open mind, or dismissed cause decisions already made?

for most, decisions made.

The only part of that blurb that was reported which I believe is a fact that Trayvon ran from him. So I'm not sure I need more info to come out for me to believe that Trayvon being in football shape helped him or hurt him.

And IMO, the main reason why there's a media frenzy is due to the local PD's mishandling of this whole case from the beginning. I believe they dropped the ball regardless of what was reported.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

many times when asked why you're there you're not doing anything wrong.

if you're not, do you say so or do you fight?

the point is people see the worst in one and the best in the other.

it's just the cool thing to do at this point and i admire anyone waiting for the facts at this point.

Depends on how I view the situation. If a stranger is following me and I'm afraid that they might hurt me then I might not be inclined to take the time to answer the question.

If I'm being asked in a hostile and aggressive manner then I wouldn't answer then either.

I would most likely be on guard wondering why this strange person is chasing me especially if I try to run and they still follow.

There are too many murders, assaults, and robberies going on to just trust that every stranger has good or innocent intentions when chasing after you, so it's a good reason to be on guard.

We don't know if Zimmerman just nicely asked Trayvon and went on about his way other than his word for it

 

[TheCount]

Does being on suspension from school change the events of that night? I've seen that mentioned before, but I'm not sure how that's relevant to the events of that night.

This is what I don't get here. What the heck does the media take have to do with what happened?

If people are angry with the media, feel free to be mad at them, but it has nothing to do with the case.

 

[iceberg]

The only part of that blurb that was reported which I believe is a fact that Trayvon ran from him. So I'm not sure I need more info to come out for me to believe that Trayvon being in football shape helped him or hurt him.

And IMO, the main reason why there's a media frenzy is due to the local PD's mishandling of this whole case from the beginning. I believe they dropped the ball regardless of what was reported.

or maybe what was reported that night fit standard protocol and the case blew up after that.

to think an entire police department failed beyond such belief sure comes easy.

 

[iceberg]

This is what I don't get here. What the heck does the media take have to do with what happened?

If people are angry with the media, feel free to be mad at them, but it has nothing to do with the case.

where else have you heard it?

 

[TheCount]

where else have you heard it?

Heard what?

 

[iceberg]

Heard what?

about the case.

have you gone through court records? been to sanford? talked to anyone?

or have you gotten all your info through the media and how they present it?

 

[WoodysGirl]

if you're going to micro-analyze one side, do the other.

we see brief "violent" history from zimmerman so we establish a character.

no ones doing the same to the other side.

i just want the same stick held to both sides.

That must be a "You" understood, because I personally haven't micro-analyzed either of them.