Neighborhood watch captain kills black teen - doesn't get arrested

[The30YardSlant]

he spent hours at the police station. he signed a sworn statement before he left.

Not even the police have said that and it isnt in any report anywhere on this earth.

you didn't even know he was detained

Because he wasnt. The police never said he was in the public and the public specifically said he wasnt.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

I disagree... they are protesting for a conviction... He's already been tried and convicted in the media...

If GZ gets arrested and acquitted, you'll see twice as big a melee'...

If he was arrested in the first place I don't think that it would have gotten this big.

The SPD using the Stand Your Ground law as a reason why they couldn't arrest Zimmerman is why so many have an issue with the law right now and also the same kind of Defense used in the Dooley case did not prevent Police from arresting him for shooting a father in front of his 8 year old child. Even though some claim that the Father "Provoked" his own death by going after the man with the gun starting a struggle.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Not even the police have said that and it isnt in any report anywhere on this earth.

the police said they took him. he said he was there for hours.

the moon landing is real.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

If he was arrested in the first place I don't think that it would have gotten this big.

The SPD using the Stand Your Ground law as a reason why they couldn't arrest Zimmerman is why so many have an issue with the law right now and also the same kind of Defense used in the Dooley case did not prevent Police from arresting him for shooting a father in front of his 8 year old child. Even though some claim that the Father "Provoked" his own death by going after the man with the gun starting a struggle.

wrong, they used 776.032

776.013 is SYG

 

[TheCount]

you sign a statement that what you said is true. this is testimony. Zimmerman did that.

Signing it still doesn't make it testimony. If you lie in a signed police statement, that's obstruction of justice. If you lie while giving testimony, that's perjury. "Testimony" applies strictly to judicial proceedings.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Signing it still doesn't make it testimony. If you lie in a signed police statement, that's obstruction of justice. If you lie while giving testimony, that's perjury. "Testimony" applies strictly to judicial proceedings.

:laugh2: Don't waste your time.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

wrong, they used 776.032

776.013 is SYG

So anyone can use that law , claim Self Defense and avoid trail?


You can have all of the reasons that you want to as far as trusting the SPD's word for it, but can't be surprised that others do not trust their word and it's the SPD's fault that a lot do not trust how they handled the investigation.

You said yourself that they were unprofessional, unprofessional Police work is not something that we should just accept and be okay with and take what they do seriously, when they don't think their jobs seriously enough for a complete investigation? When they test the body of the Dead KId and not the killer? When they may have let the Killer go home without testing his clothes or Gun?

Let's make it okay for Police Departments to be unprofessional and accept the evidence that may have been collected in an unprofessional manner.


By the way Zimmerman's lawyer said he was going to defend his client under Stand Your Ground. No matter what Self Defense law it was under, one person who claimed Self Defense was arrested and charged and the other wasn't

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Signing it still doesn't make it testimony. If you lie in a signed police statement, that's obstruction of justice. If you lie while giving testimony, that's perjury. "Testimony" applies strictly to judicial proceedings.

testimony n. oral evidence given under oath by a witness in answer to questions posed by attorneys at trial or at a deposition (questioning under oath outside of court)


you guys are getting beaten up so badly with the known evidence, you are now arguing semantics, and can't even do that right.

 

[trickblue]

If he was arrested in the first place I don't think that it would have gotten this big.

The SPD using the Stand Your Ground law as a reason why they couldn't arrest Zimmerman is why so many have an issue with the law right now and also the same kind of Defense used in the Dooley case did not prevent Police from arresting him for shooting a father in front of his 8 year old child. Even though some claim that the Father "Provoked" his own death by going after the man with the gun starting a struggle.

Maybe not on this end, but if he were acquitted... same thing...

The press continues to make this a white/black race issue. Maybe it was racial, but it certainly wasn't White/Black. It was Hispanic/Black. I don't pretend to know what happened, I just want justice served...

The press and race-baiters are driving this now...

Here's a Google News Search under the term "White Hispanic"... 864 news items...

Had you ever heard the term "White Hispanic" before this case?

It's silly and amazingly transparent...

 

[The30YardSlant]

so you are arguing the moon landing is fake.

fine. nothing anybody is going to say can convince you. the police are lying is your argument, which means ever piece of evidence they show is a lie, so long as it hurts your cause.

why would anybody waste their time on you knowing this?

There's video of the moon landing, I know because I can watch it. I can interview men worked for NASA who watched th shuttle take off and talked to the men on the moon.

I can't watch any video or talk to one witness that gives me any indication he was ever detained.

 

[The30YardSlant]

the police said they took him. he said he was there for hours.

So elts assume he was detained for the sake of argument, not everyone who is interrogated signs a statement. He didnt HAVE to say anything at all, then alone sign off on what he did say. There is no rule that requires this.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

So anyone can use that law , claim Self Defense and avoid trail?

They can try. If the known evidence matches their claims, they will also succeed, just as Zimmerman did.

By the way Zimmerman's lawyer said he was going to defend his client under Stand Your Ground. No matter what Self Defense law it was under, one person who claimed Self Defense was arrested and charged and the other wasn't

Where the hell do you keep getting all this info that is dead wrong?

Whatever your sources are, they suck big time. Ditch your sources, they make you look completely uninformed.

http://wtvr.com/2012/03/24/zimmermans-lawyer-stand-your-ground-doesnt-apply-in-trayvon-martin-case/

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Maybe not on this end, but if he were acquitted... same thing...

The press continues to make this a white/black race issue. Maybe it was racial, but it certainly wasn't White/Black. It was Hispanic/Black. I don't pretend to know what happened, I just want justice served...

The press and race-baiters are driving this now...

Here's a Google News Search under the term "White Hispanic"... 864 news items...

Had you ever heard the term "White Hispanic" before this case?

It's silly and amazingly transparent...

I understand what you are saying. Whether or not ZImmerman actually went after Trayvon because he saw all Black men as criminals might be hard to prove. But Trayvon was profiled because of the crimes that others have done in the area.


I think that the race issue will be brought up in cases like this with or without the Media. You have racists that attack Trayvon and are against Trayvon no matter what because of his skin color.

You have the New Black Panthers putting out a bond and I don't agree with them putting out that bond.

I don't know why they insist on using White-Hispanic to decribe Zimmerman, I can understand if it bothers some people

 

[Eric_Boyer]

So elts assume he was detained for the sake of argument, not everyone who is interrogated signs a statement. He didnt HAVE to say anything at all, then alone sign off on what he did say. There is no rule that requires this.

the police said he cooperated fully. If he lawyer-ed up, I imagine they would of had probably cause for an arrest.


just speculation on my part.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

They can try. If the known evidence matches their claims, they will also succeed, just as Zimmerman did.



Where the hell do you keep getting all this info that is dead wrong?

Whatever your sources are, they suck big time. Ditch your sources, they make you look completely uninformed.

http://wtvr.com/2012/03/24/zimmermans-lawyer-stand-your-ground-doesnt-apply-in-trayvon-martin-case/

I'm watching CNN all through out . They claimed he reviewed it and will use it.


Right "Known Evidence" that a unprofessional SPD collected and who may help Zimmerman get off because of failure to do their job.

This does not prove that the SPD did everything that they should have. Defense lawyers have said that they would have a field day in part because of the SPD botching this case.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Link


http://www.classichitsandoldies.com...zimmerman-will-use-stand-your-ground-defense/

 

[Eric_Boyer]

I'm watching CNN all through out . They claimed he reviewed it and will use it.

either cnn is lying, you are, or you can't process and save it for later recall.

either way, I posted a link from the lawyer of Zimmerman refuting what you claim (again)

 

[iceberg]

I'm watching CNN all through out . They claimed he reviewed it and will use it.

Right "Known Evidence" that a unprofessional SPD collected and who may help Zimmerman get off because of failure to do their job.

This does not prove that the SPD did everything that they should have. Defense lawyers have said that they would have a field day in part because of the SPD botching this case.

romo to dez - to me it's crap like this that make a trial useless at this point. if he's found innocent, do you then go "wow, i was wrong" or do you lash out at people for not doing their jobs?

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

either cnn is lying, you are, or you can't process and save it for later recall.

either way, I posted a link from the lawyer of Zimmerman refuting what you claim (again)

I posted a link above do you want me to post more?

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

romo to dez - to me it's crap like this that make a trial useless at this point. if he's found innocent, do you then go "wow, i was wrong" or do you lash out at people for not doing their jobs?

I at least think that a family losing a loved one in such a way deserves to have the case go to trail. Putting myself in Trayvon's parents shoes it like their sons life is not respected enough for even a trail or to test Zimmerman for drugs.