Neighborhood watch captain kills black teen - doesn't get arrested

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iceberg;4482412 said:
so would *every* killing in self defense have to go to trial?

why shouldn't it, if there are no witnesses, then all you have to say to get away with killing someone is "oh it is self defence" and by definition no trial as there is no evidence against it because the person is dead.

at least test the theory under oath.
 

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BlueStar3398;4482401 said:
Black Panthers, Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson = trouble. The mom is copyrighting and already trying to make money from this. I have read that they want to start a "movement".

I refuse to draw any conclusions. I just want to know the truth.
Speaking on the copyright thing. As distasteful as it is, I understand why they're doing it.

There are already scumsuckers out there trying to make money off of this. People have been peddling t-shirts, putting his face and name on flyers for crappy parties.

With none of the proceeds to cover any of the legal fees associated with this stuff.
 

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BlueStar3398;4482401 said:
Black Panthers, Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson = trouble. The mom is copyrighting and already trying to make money from this. I have read that they want to start a "movement".

I refuse to draw any conclusions. I just want to know the truth.

+1
Let the facts come out in court before forming a opinion on this.

There are reasons why he wasnt arrested when the incident occured and regardless of what the mediots,sharpton and jackson proclaim it dosnt have anything to do with race.
 

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Achilleslastand;4482445 said:
+1
Let the facts come out in court before forming a opinion on this.

There are reasons why he wasnt arrested when the incident occured and regardless of what the mediots,sharpton and jackson proclaim it dosnt have anything to do with race.

perhaps not but do you think a black man of Zimmerman's size and age who shot a white teenager like Trayvvon would have been let go without charge?
 

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Been out of the loop from this depressing story for a couple of days.
Old news I'm sure, but I just saw the more recent Facebook photos of Trayvon....wow. I can see why his parents would want a much more pleasant photo of him released--even if it barely resembles how the kid looked more recently.

My first thought was manipulation b/c they are so different, but on second thought, I gues they just wanted him looking nice.
I do find it disturbing that Obama, after looking at the original photo of him maybe 3-4 years afo, said that if he had a son that would be what he would look like.

In the end, like everyone else, I hope they get the story right and if prosectution is required, that it is done.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4482463 said:
perhaps not but do you think a black man of Zimmerman's size and age who shot a white teenager like Trayvvon would have been let go without charge?
Zimmerman's not white and it should not matter anyway.
But go ahead, fan those flames.
 

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BlueStar3398;4482401 said:
Black Panthers, Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson = trouble. The mom is copyrighting and already trying to make money from this. I have read that they want to start a "movement".

I refuse to draw any conclusions. I just want to know the truth.
A "movement" wouldnt be too wise.And starting one wouldnt look very good.
 

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DFWJC;4482471 said:
Zimmerman's not white and it should not matter anyway.
But go ahead, fan those flames.

if you are "hispanic" but have a German name, you are "white".

If you want to bury your head in the sand and say it doesn't matter, feel free but it does.
 

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DFWJC;4482467 said:
Been out of the loop from this depressing story for a couple of days.
Old news I'm sure, but I just saw the more recent Facebook photos of Trayvon....wow. I can see why his parents would want a much more pleasant photo of him released--even if it barely resembles how the kid looked more recently.

My first thought was manipulation b/c they are so different, but on second thought, I gues they just wanted him looking nice.
I do find it disturbing that Obama, after looking at the original photo of him maybe 3-4 years afo, said that if he had a son that would be what he would look like.

In the end, like everyone else, I hope they get the story right and if prosectution is required, that it is done.

The same thing is being done to Zimmerman. His mug shot is the one being used by majority of the media, where as there is a more recent photo that must not look as menacing as the older one...

MediaBias-Martin-Zimmerman3.jpg


Now please don't take this as some plea for Zimmerman. This is just my anger against the twist that media uses in certain cases.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4482463 said:
perhaps not but do you think a black man of Zimmerman's size and age who shot a white teenager like Trayvvon would have been let go without charge?

^The race card......never leave home without it.
http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf
Heres a pdf copy of the police report.

Like i said earlier wait until ALL the facts are released and not just the medias one sided portrayal of the incident.
 

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iceberg;4482237 said:
once you set the forest on fire...

and SPD didn't mishandle it. they're just not letting the public be the judge/jury. that seems to make a lot of people mad cause they have to wait for info, but they should NOT just start releasing info to make the mob happy and go against their own process.
But the public has already decided the case...the mob will only be satisfied now if GZ gets the death penalty. Anything else, all bets are off.

People just can't accept that there may be more to this than we already know.
 

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Cowboys&LakersFan;4482399 said:
This kinda hits me hard. This guy was my age and was killed for absolutely no reason. He deserves some justice.

He already got justice. That's why you dont go around jumping people. You never know who has a gun.
 

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WoodysGirl;4482444 said:
Speaking on the copyright thing. As distasteful as it is, I understand why they're doing it.

There are already scumsuckers out there trying to make money off of this. People have been peddling t-shirts, putting his face and name on flyers for crappy parties.

With none of the proceeds to cover any of the legal fees associated with this stuff.

i'll admit i had not thought of that side of it WG.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4482482 said:
if you are "hispanic" but have a German name, you are "white".

If you want to bury your head in the sand and say it doesn't matter, feel free but it does.

Huh????
 

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cajuncocoa;4482531 said:
But the public has already decided the case...the mob will only be satisfied now if GZ gets the death penalty. Anything else, all bets are off.

People just can't accept that there may be more to this than we already know.

unfortunately this is very true.
 

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cajuncocoa;4482546 said:
This story has received little to no attention from the American media:

Couple met and married within a month and stayed together for 65 years... only to be parted after home invader beat wife to death



W/O even clicking the link i know its the elderly couple from tulsa which is right down the highway.
Just thinking about this makes my stomach turn and i hope the culprit is taken to remote area and beaten to death with an aluminum bat.

I guess this dosnt fit in line with the medias thinking.....
 
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