Neighborhood watch captain kills black teen - doesn't get arrested

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iceberg;4482537 said:
i'll admit i had not thought of that side of it WG.
I've seen a flyer for a wack party in NC with his face all over it. Caption reads "In memory of" but nothing about proceeds benefiting the family.

It's bull.

I read on a FB from two different who live in two different cities talking about how disgusted they are at the people peddling t-shirts from this.

It's disgusting.
 

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WoodysGirl;4482444 said:
Speaking on the copyright thing. As distasteful as it is, I understand why they're doing it.

There are already scumsuckers out there trying to make money off of this. People have been peddling t-shirts, putting his face and name on flyers for crappy parties.

With none of the proceeds to cover any of the legal fees associated with this stuff.

I agree and listed to a talk show host who said this was the right thing to do on her part so she will have some control over her sons name and say so on people looking to make money off of this
 

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Achilleslastand;4482577 said:
The name Zimmerman originates in germany.....

he is also part hispanic. To call him white or not in my view is not an issue except to those who want to make it an issue.
 

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The SPD is not suppose to be leaking out this information that supports Zimmermans Defense. Watching CNN the woman (Can't think of her name right now) help taking over the investigation of this case wants them to stop leaking information because it's not suppose to happen.


Perhaps a sign that someone in the SPD handling things in unprofessional once again?
 

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WoodysGirl;4482571 said:
I've seen a flyer for a wack party in NC with his face all over it. Caption reads "In memory of" but nothing about proceeds benefiting the family.

It's bull.

I read on a FB from two different who live in two different cities talking about how disgusted they are at the people peddling t-shirts from this.

It's disgusting.


There is always someone trying to capitalize on Tragedy's like this. Disgusting what some will do for he greed of money
 

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WoodysGirl;4482444 said:
Speaking on the copyright thing. As distasteful as it is, I understand why they're doing it.

There are already scumsuckers out there trying to make money off of this. People have been peddling t-shirts, putting his face and name on flyers for crappy parties.

With none of the proceeds to cover any of the legal fees associated with this stuff.

I was thinking the same thing.

I think no doubt she will profit off those trademarks but the main issue right now is that she doesn't want someone else to profit off her dead son. And I understand that. Absolutely disgusting to turn tragedy into personal gain without any sort of consideration for the family.
 

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iceberg;4482330 said:
reading cnn right now and a story on here said that it was something like zimmerman asked him what he was doing here, trayvon said "do you have a problem", zimmeman said "no" and trayvon said "well you do now" and punched him in the nose, taking him to the ground.

the new cnn video says that its also possible trayvon was going for zimmermans gun.

now if this is true, some kid just attacked you physically, banged your head against the ground and is now going for your gun.

not saying this is what happened, not at all. more facts still have to come out, not speculation.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/27/justice/florida-teen-shooting-witnesses/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

the video:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/bestoftv/2012/03/27/ac-kth-trayvon-martin-witness.cnn
And Zimmerman can say whatever to put himself in in a positive light since he has no one to refute his claim of conversation and who initiated physical confrontation.

Zimmerman could have said "No" or he could have said something like "yeah I do, you don't belong here" but again, it's just his story
 

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03EBZ06;4482698 said:
And Zimmerman can say whatever to put himself in in a positive light since he has no one to refute his claim of conversation and who initiated physical confrontation.

Zimmerman could have said "No" or he could have said something like "yeah I do, you don't belong here" but again, it's just his story

agreed. but there's a chance he's telling the truth also.
 

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03EBZ06;4482698 said:
And Zimmerman can say whatever to put himself in in a positive light since he has no one to refute his claim of conversation and who initiated physical confrontation.

Zimmerman could have said "No" or he could have said something like "yeah I do, you don't belong here" but again, it's just his story


True Trayvon is not around to defend himself. So we may not really know truly everything.


I don't know if Zimmerman really didn't have a problem. But he at least had enough of a problem with Trayvon being there to call the cops on him. We know that for sure
 

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I'm confused because some say that Zimmerman will not be arrested or charged and others say that he will. :confused:
 

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Romo_To_Dez;4482725 said:
I'm confused because some say that Zimmerman will not be arrested or charged and others say that he will. :confused:

He still may, there is no statute of limitation on murder. Special investigator are reviewing and collecting evidence.
 

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Romo_To_Dez;4482725 said:
I'm confused because some say that Zimmerman will not be arrested or charged and others say that he will. :confused:

Zimmerman's lawyer told one news network, I don't remember which one, that he does expect charges to be filed. This was a couple of days ago though.
 

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Doomsday101;4482734 said:
He still may, there is no statute of limitation on murder. Special investigator are reviewing and collecting evidence.


SInce the Lead Investigator recommended Manslaughter but got turned down or over ruled I wonder it that's what he will be charged with and not murder.
 

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I just saw that one of the lead detectives recommended he be charged with manslaughter that night, and that he is looking forward to "the truth coming out".
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4482482 said:
if you are "hispanic" but have a German name, you are "white".

If you want to bury your head in the sand and say it doesn't matter, feel free but it does.

Quite possibly one of the dumbest single comments I have ever seen.

I've seen a lot but this one just tops them all.
 

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Romo_To_Dez;4482831 said:
SInce the Lead Investigator recommended Manslaughter but got turned down or over ruled I wonder it that's what he will be charged with and not murder.

I doubt he gets charged with murder because I can't see definitive way of proving he set out with the intention of killing Trayvon.

If he is charged with manslaughter however, I think it likely means that they aren't buying his story of being attacked.

If they aren't buying that story, then I think something more than manslaughter should be given.

If you are at the point where Zimmerman confronted Trayvon and instigated the altercation, I don't think manslaughter is enough. I don't know what would be above it without being murder but starting a conflict in which you are getting your *** whipped and end up shooting someone should be more than just manslaughter.
 

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Hoofbite;4483088 said:
I doubt he gets charged with murder because I can't see definitive way of proving he set out with the intention of killing Trayvon.

If he is charged with manslaughter however, I think it likely means that they aren't buying his story of being attacked.

If they aren't buying that story, then I think something more than manslaughter should be given.

If you are at the point where Zimmerman confronted Trayvon and instigated the altercation, I don't think manslaughter is enough. I don't know what would be above it without being murder but starting a conflict in which you are getting your *** whipped and end up shooting someone should be more than just manslaughter.

In Florida, 3rd Degree Murder doesn't require the requisite intent to kill, which satisfies your last question as well given the elements of the crime according to statute.
 

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casmith07;4483117 said:
In Florida, 3rd Degree Murder doesn't require the requisite intent to kill.

i really hope rockford posts tomorrow.
 
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