Next Time we Discuss Dak's Stats

[America's Cowboy]

But was he saying he regrets dating who he did, or just that he regrets not keeping it lower profile? I don't know, I'm just asking. I honestly thought, and still do, that the uproar over who he dated was overblown. 2 of the team's most successful season with Romo at QB came when he was dating Jessica Simpson, and his yardage totals and QB ratings were pretty much in line with the type if seasons he had throughout his career. His INT's dropped somewhat over the years, but does that have anything to do with Jessica Simpson, or is it just that he was a young, brand new starting QB and as he matured he got better reading defenses and making decisions?

I believe it was a little bit of everything. Jessica was a big distraction, especially during the season. She was constantly seeking the limelight and Hollywood lifestyle, and she made sure to have Tony out in Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Cabo San Lucas with her DURING THE SEASON.

 

[Willfreedom909]

Why do people use wins as a qb stat. Doesn't make sense to me

It does. Good qbs produce wins. Stats don't tell the whole picture.

I'm willing to bet Dak will take this team far further than Tony Romo ever did

 

[Texas_Pete]

What about the drops and it's negative impact on Dak's stats?

He leads the league in drops. He's not as bad as some people think.

 

[Alexander]

The Tennessee game is probably an even better example of what you're talking about. Eye test said bleh, without excluding any plays, while the qb rating said 99. If the TD/Int ratio is good, the qb rating is almost always going to be high. That's why Weeden was in the mid-90's when Dallas benched him for Cassel.

The whole rating should be abolished. It really gives some people a quantifiable stat to point at the makes them feel smart. Bad combination.

It becomes what low intellectuals call "fact" in retrospect.

Once the game is gone, the flavor and feel essentially disappears and you are left with some of the more low brow analytics you could possibly perform post mortem.

 

[Alexander]

What about the drops and it's negative impact on Dak's stats?

He leads the league in drops. He's not as bad as some people think.

That is if he gets the ball off.

Too many times, in fact, worst in the league along with Eli Manning, he doesn't even get the ball off to have the drops happen.

 

[Philmonroe]

What about the drops and it's negative impact on Dak's stats?

He leads the league in drops. He's not as bad as some people think.

What about them? The avg of 2 drops a game would add how much to his stats on avg? Just like all qbs have bad passes all wr drop them. Don't think this adds much for his stats. Maybe if they are 3rd down or tds like the Bealsey pass we can talk but without knowing that not much to go on.

 

[LatinMind]

He throws them open all the time with anticipation.




Look how early in the routes these balls are thrown, particularly that last one. This is throwing receivers open 101. Dak has as much arm talent as anyone, but he does not see the field like this. He just doesn't. Contrast those Goff throws to this, which is about 3 steps too late, making an easy win a tough, contested catch:

Dak can be a good QB in the right system and with the right players around him. But acting like he has the passing ability of some of the league's elite QBs, including Goff, is totally baseless. He doesn't throw with any anticipation, he has to see it first. It's difficult to throw the ball down the field in this league without that trait, and it's where the Cowboys struggle every single week.

Didn’t I say in each post that dam was hold be very good in the systems they run? See you just got in the thread to argue something I already post. Have a good day haterade

 

[Future]

Didn’t I say in each post that dam was hold be very good in the systems they run? See you just got in the thread to argue something I already post. Have a good day haterade

I'm not sure what you actually mean here...but the point is that Dak would not be very good in the Rams system, and it works because Goff is so good at throwing with anticipation, which Dak doesn't do.

 

[PUSHfold]

Dak Prescott will never be a QB that elevates the players around him like Drew Brees does. He is the QB that needs the players around him like Zeke, the and WR's to elevate HIM.

Some fans are ok with that. Just build around him. Others want the QB to be THE guy. And Prescott can't be that.

That's why there will never be consensus on this forum and elsewhere about Dak. Even if he wins a Super Bowl the qustion will always be was it Dak? Or was it the other guys.

QBs don't win SBs on their own...this is a team game. If we win a SB or multiple SBs with Dak I could care less if it "was" Dak or wasn't. This is ALL ABOUT winning SBs.

 

[Willfreedom909]

I'm not sure what you actually mean here...but the point is that Dak would not be very good in the Rams system, and it works because Goff is so good at throwing with anticipation, which Dak doesn't do.

Thats not how the rams system works. Goff is a low IQ player (watch hard knocks) so they made a simple offense for him. Dak passes for 35 TDs and runs for 5 more in that scheme.

 

[black label]

He throws them open all the time with anticipation.




Look how early in the routes these balls are thrown, particularly that last one. This is throwing receivers open 101. Dak has as much arm talent as anyone, but he does not see the field like this. He just doesn't. Contrast those Goff throws to this, which is about 3 steps too late, making an easy win a tough, contested catch:

Dak can be a good QB in the right system and with the right players around him. But acting like he has the passing ability of some of the league's elite QBs, including Goff, is totally baseless. He doesn't throw with any anticipation, he has to see it first. It's difficult to throw the ball down the field in this league without that trait, and it's where the Cowboys struggle every single week.

And that's the problem with dakburger, looking one guy down and waiting for him to be open

 

[Willfreedom909]

I believe it was a little bit of everything. Jessica was a big distraction, especially during the season. She was constantly seeking the limelight and Hollywood lifestyle, and she made sure to have Tony out in Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Cabo San Lucas with her DURING THE SEASON.

Jessica was a hot piece of ***. Tony is lucky dak was in high school back then because he would of took that from him too

 

[dwreck27]

Stats?? They matter to a degree


I mean Eli has the same number of Super Bowls as Peyton yet they have completely different stats...

He’ll Eli has more Super Bowls than Aaron Rodgers our playoff kryptonite

 

[Willfreedom909]

And that's the problem with dakburger, looking one guy down and waiting for him to be open

Dak is not the problem. He outplayed Aaron rodgers in all their head to head matchups

 

[Dorsett33]

... Remember Mariota and Monday nights game against the Texans.

Mariota went 22-23 with a perfect passer rating. And yet the Titans were not competitive. This tweet does a good job of explaining why his stats did not match the eye test.



This reminds me of Dak against the Commanders. He was awful essentially the entire game. And yet due to two passes his passer rating was stellar. Eye test > Stats in this case.

As a reminder Dak is 23rd in the NFL in QBR. Top 5? Brees, Mahomes, Rivers, Goff and Wilson in that order.

For added Dak context Joe Flacco and Ryan Fitzpatrick have been better. Fitzpatrick has been benched twice and there is talk Joe has been Wally Pipped. Meanwhile we wouldn't trade Dak for 2 first rounders and are backing up the Brinks truck. Future is bright!

The way some of you talk, you would think we haven't won a game since Dak has been QB. When we win, it's because of someone else. When we lose, it's Dak's fault let you Dak haters tell it. And I'm willing to bet that some of you never played a down of football in your life...but you know what a QB should be. Smh...Lol....some of you are going to get a serious ulcer. My advice is to switch teams now before the extension comes and you get really sick. Dak is here to stay....get over it.....

 

[black label]

Dak is not the problem. He outplayed Aaron rodgers in all their head to head matchups

Jerry's not going to give Rodgers a 100 mil

 

[DCowboyz]

Who cares? He's winning. That's all that matters. Dak is Dak.

 

[gjkoeppen]

average time to throw for dak 3 seconds. average time for the league 2.6 seconds.... he has plenty of time. he chooses to hold on to the ball too long. its painful to watch at time.

Now to show just how silly that stat is. Next Gen Stats also states that it takes .2 - .3 seconds on average for the QB to cock and throw the ball so in reality Prescott is holding the ball for all of .1 - .2 seconds longer than the average QB. Even if there was all of a .4 second difference just think of how short of time that really is. You can believe that it's a huge difference but it takes longer for someone to blink 3 times than .4 seconds.
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[gjkoeppen]

How did going Hollywood during his early and prime years work out for Romo and the Cowboys? The end result should have told you by now it was a terrible decision by Romo. He even said that if he could go back in time, he would have handled everything much differently.

Most people will say that they would handle some things different. I just don't get how Romo dating someone, Spears, from Hollywood all of a sudden made HIM "going Hollywood"? You show me where when he said he would do thing differently that he actually said or implied that dating someone from Hollywood was what he was referring to or was it things specific to Spears as many people say after they break up with a person they were dating regardless where they are from. Again you're not the Cowboys dating police who gets to decide who and when a player can date who you deem right. Gee later in Romo's career he dated and married a beauty pageant winner from another state was that wrong too?
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[Ken]

average time to throw for dak 3 seconds. average time for the league 2.6 seconds.... he has plenty of time. he chooses to hold on to the ball too long. its painful to watch at time.

LOL.

You meant to say...the 3rd fastest time to throw in the league is 2.6 seconds and that belongs to Ryan Tannehill. Dak's is 2.96.


2.68 is about the average and that is a 5 way tie for that time.

And this stat is so dumb that it omits sacks from the measurement. So, for slow developing plays that you have good protection on, why would you rush it? If you are sacked after 5 seconds, why would you not include that in TT?

Dak owns the 3rd fastest sack in the league...how come that isn't factored into this silly stat?

It is all about offensive philosophy. Offenses predicated on getting the ball out quick will look great in this silly stat. Dinosaur offenses like ours or play action heavy offenses will look poor.