NFL is just sports entertainment?

[CWR]

Dumb is thinking the origins of the NFL started because of gambling, take a few minutes and bone up on what really happened . Football history buff here my man, and it goes back before the NFL.

Dude, was talking about others talking about..."their gambling buddies"....assumed that was obvious.

Stop with this...well the NBA....ok? This is the NFL with far more people involved, far bigger.

You really believe anyone actually cares about what teams do anything, really? Ah....why? So it's...get those Raiders.....get those Cowboys.....get those Patriots,...three of the most iconic franchises in the NFL.

There are no clues of any kind that anyone is fixing games, rigging games or treating any teams differently, not one name, there is nothing.

Common sense my man.....the NFL is being rigged, think about that. Do you honestly believe that could be kept a secret all this time, hell no it couldn't.

The NFL is a great game full of amazing athletes, the best in the world so I suggest ya enjoy the action, enjoy this great game and dump this silly.......all rigged,...speaking of dumb, there it is.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ rules, the NFL gets that $$$$$$$$$$$$ from the TV deals, trust me all that dries up if anyone had a reason to investigate is the game legit. Nobody is stupid enough to mess with this sport, simply too big.

Yes the NBA is just a little fly by night outfit, good point.

 

[RaZon]

Yes the NBA is just a little fly by night outfit, good point.

How many players on an NBA team, how about an NFL team?

Average NBA attendance around 17,000 a game, average NFL attendance about 4 times that many.

 

[CWR]

How many players on an NBA team, how about an NFL team?

More than enough. Why does that matter anyways? Did anyone suggest players were shaving points or doing anything other than playing to win?

 

[RaZon]

More than enough. Why does that matter anyways? Did anyone suggest players were shaving points or doing anything other than playing to win?

I didn't bring up the NBA somebody else did as if that had something to do with the NFL, so...????

Bottom line is there is nothing going on in the NFL anyone has to worry about, it's all legit and on the level.

 

[Point-of-the-Star]

How many players on an NBA team, how about an NFL team?

Average NBA attendance around 17,000 a game, average NFL attendance about 4 times that many.

I didn't bring up the NBA somebody else did as if that had something to do with the NFL, so...????

Bottom line is there is nothing going on in the NFL anyone has to worry about, it's all legit and on the level.

I don't see a correlation between number of players on a team, game attendance, attendance ratio to NFL games. I'm trying here though.

Now, the correlation between the NFL and the NBA would be both are professional sports, both games are easily momentum oriented, and both are managed by referees with much discretion and little to no ability to be challenged. Even Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder can see that correlation.

Listen. I'm going to take your word on it that the "Bottom line is there is nothing going on in the NFL anyone has to worry about, it's all legit and on the level." You seem to know everything and have a handle on how the world rolls. . I did get a kick out of your Bennie the Bean narration. Again as I said the referees in the NFL get their directive(s) from the League (NY). And out of the group of 7 it would only take 1 (one) to move the momentum of a game. You are obviously a leader of men so you know all this.

Thanks for your in-depth perceptions and insights !

 

[Brooksey]

mad.

I challenge anyone here to give me a name of anyone involved in rigging an NFL game, come on let's get some legit proof, some real evidence, So where is it?

I guarantee we will never see anything of actual substance, the reason is ......there is nothing, yep...zero!

If a ref was why a gambling house lost big $$$$$, he'd be shot.

Prove to me the NFL is rigged. Let's see it.

Nobody is arguing the NFL is rigged but there may be some bad refs.....What evidence do you have there's no game fixing? You don't have any, there's no evidence one way or the other

 

[Brooksey]

Bottom line is there is nothing going on in the NFL anyone has to worry about, it's all legit and on the level.

You don't know that, you hope that's what it is but we really don't know.
How do you know there's nothing to worry about, are you on the inside in NY? No
It's all Legit and on the level because you said so?

What's your evidence? Your Heart? Your Gut? Give me the hard evidence

 

[Wolfpack]

Look back at the history of NFL ownership for a clue:

-Mara Family, bought the Giants using mob bookmaking profits
-Bidwill Family, bought the Cardinals (then in Chicago) part of the Chicago mob
-Rooney Family, bought the Steelers, bookmarking family, still owns several casinos and horse tracks.
-DeBartlo Family, owns 49ers, long time mob family out of Youngstown, Ohio.
-Klein Family, owned Chargers at one point, bookmaking and mob ties.
-McBride Family, owned Browns prior to Model, crime family
-Rosenbloom Family, owned Colts & Rams at one point, casino owner with mob ties.

Reference:https://www.amazon.com/Interference-Organized-Influences-Professional-Football/dp/068808303X

 

[HowardC]

So here is a thread for all you....NFL is rigged.....gang to prove it, yet I see.....nothing.

Come on lets have some names, how it's done a few great examples of fixed games, Where is that at?

Did watch any of the videos I posted? That no-call in the Rams/Saints playoff is so egregious its not funny. The saints would have been set up to win if they made that call. The ref went as blind as Stevie Wonder for a couple seconds there...

You want a name? Shawn Hoculi. That BS display Thursday night is a great example of how they manipulate games to get the results they want.

Once again, open your eyes and look at the bad calls/no-calls. Stop dismissing what the refs are doing because they know exactly what they are doing.

 

[Blast From The Past]

My son just texted me this link out of the blue. Interesting former player, Buccaneer's Dwight Smith interview:

 

[CATCH17]

Can someone tell me without me having to read through this whole thread if the league is rigged or not?

 

[GMO415]

Anytime gambling is involved it can't be 100% legit.

 

[Mannix]

I'm not entertained when its a 50/50 coin flip there will be a penalty every time my team makes a big play. I am honestly trying to remember the last big play by Green Bay where there was a flag thrown. 2013 maybe???

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

I'm not entertained when its a 50/50 coin flip there will be a penalty every time my team makes a big play.

Same here, it has taken the fun out of the game for me. I no longer celebrate a big play, or a score. I start looking to see if there was a penalty or if it will get called back on review. I guess some people like this over-officiating but it's not for me.

 

[CWR]

I don't see a correlation between number of players on a team, game attendance, attendance ratio to NFL games. I'm trying here though.

Now, the correlation between the NFL and the NBA would be both are professional sports, both games are easily momentum oriented, and both are managed by referees with much discretion and little to no ability to be challenged. Even Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder can see that correlation.

Listen. I'm going to take your word on it that the "Bottom line is there is nothing going on in the NFL anyone has to worry about, it's all legit and on the level." You seem to know everything and have a handle on how the world rolls. . I did get a kick out of your Bennie the Bean narration. Again as I said the referees in the NFL get their directive(s) from the League (NY). And out of the group of 7 it would only take 1 (one) to move the momentum of a game. You are obviously a leader of men so you know all this.

Thanks for your in-depth perceptions and insights !

Exactly. I want to believe my government looks out for my best interest, the pharmaceutical companies are trying to heal people, and that the tooth fairy exist, however....

I'm not saying it's fixed, I'm saying it's quite possible certain games are influenced. To deny that as a possibility is naive, especially after the inexplicable calls we have seen over the years.

 

[Brooksey]

Same here, it has taken the fun out of the game for me. I no longer celebrate a big play, or a score. I start looking to see if there was a penalty or if it will get called back on review. I guess some people like this over-officiating but it's not for me.

It's sad and very old

 

[CWR]

Can someone tell me without me having to read through this whole thread if the league is rigged or not?

Maybe, probably, we'll maybe. We don't know, but we sure as hell don't trust the crap bags that own these teams, or the league offices.

 

[CWR]

My son just texted me this link out of the blue. Interesting former player, Buccaneer's Dwight Smith interview:

I wonder how many players feel this way? Thanks for sharing.

 

[CATCH17]

Maybe, probably, we'll maybe. We don't know, but we sure as hell don't trust the crap bags that own these teams, or the league offices.

Whoever made the point about not allowing normal penalties to be challenged kinda got me thinking because that is a great way to be able to still manipulate the game.

With all the technology and money the NFL has they could get every single call right.

 

[CWR]

Whoever made the point about not allowing normal penalties to be challenged kinda got me thinking because that is a great way to be able to still manipulate the game.

With all the technology and money the NFL has they could get every single call right.

It's difficult to believe the league could be this incompetent on accident. It's also hard to understand how little has been done to correct the problem.