Twitter: NFL projects 2017 salary cap to be between $166-170 million

[xwalker]

You see any WDE (mid-level) worth a flyer, B? And thanks for the feedback on the first post, brother.

I really like JPP and would love to have him on board, then still go DE and MLB in the draft 1 and 2 (if it's there).

I do not want to sign JPP at the cost of Mo (and to a lesser extent, Church). Wanna make that clear

I am not that versed on the guys out there that would fit at WDE..........I like JPP but I don't think he comes here.......I think he stays with NYG or gets huge money somewhere else

Not sure if guys like Chandler Jones or Melvin Ingram or Sheard or Addison would be WDEs but we seem covered at SDE with Crawford and DLawrence

I think they will sign a free agent DE but it probably won't be a well know name.

A guy like Nick Perry from the Packers is interesting. He has 8 sacks this year. He is an OLB in their scheme but has DE size at 6-3, 265. He ran at 6.64 forty while weighing 271 in pre-draft workouts.

The Packers are more likely to let players leave than most other teams.

Mario Addison has 7.5 sacks as a backup DE in Carolina. He should not be expensive.

 

[xwalker]

it wouldn't be the same if Crawford knows he is SDE and not 3T
if DLawrence knows he is WDE and not SDE
If Tapper can play
if we draft a DE
if Gregory comes back
if Mayowa keeps improving

They need to figure out in the off-season where Crawford and Lawrence are going to play. They have yo-yo'ed Crawford over the years. One season started as a DE and then switched to DT. Then this season the opposite. Those players need time in the off-season to get their weight right depending on position. Crawford is heavy for SDE and Lawrence is heavy for RDE.

Hopefully they don't make plans around Gregory or Tapper. Those guys are just a bonus if they play but the probability seems low.

Mayowa has looked better since getting benched. If he can get a little stronger in the off-season it would help. He as the quickness.

 

[Nightman]

I think they will sign a free agent DE but it probably won't be a well know name.

A guy like Nick Perry from the Packers is interesting. He has 8 sacks this year. He is an OLB in their scheme but has DE size at 6-3, 265. He ran at 6.64 forty while weighing 271 in pre-draft workouts.

The Packers are more likely to let players leave than most other teams.

Mario Addison has 7.5 sacks as a backup DE in Carolina. He should not be expensive.

I saw a couple of those guys but don't know their story.......they could be perfect at 5m AAV

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Well no. It's not all relative because our issue has been that we weren't going to be in a position to do much, and now we may, whether or not other teams are able to improve as well is not really the issue

We can do almost anything we want.

 

[erod]

Completely disagree about MLB.........the spenders can spend but there are no dominant money teams every year...........they have plenty of sanctions against NYY and LAD and BOS like revenue sharing, luxury tax and loss of draft picks

It is a much better system and when a player signs a contract it is fully guaranteed and they get all of it.......not like NFL when teams cut you 1 or 2 years into a 5 year deal

Salary caps are BS imo........owners just protecting other owners from themselves

They're not BS.

The Yankees have a $7.7 billion television/radio contract. They receive $385 million a year. The Brewers get $12 million a year from their TV deal.

Compare that to the Giants versus the Packers in those same markets. The Packers have a chance to build a team, re-sign its own players, and be aggressive if they want to be in free agency. Just like the Giants. However, the Brewers simply can't play that game like the Yankees.

I'm a capitalist in every sense, but a "league" must be looked at as a single entitity as it is in the NFL, not a collection of separate businesses. Otherwise, the inequities are too imbalanced.

Soon, teams will be forced to "loan" their players to other teams like they do in soccer in Europe.

 

[Nightman]

They need to figure out in the off-season where Crawford and Lawrence are going to play. They have yo-yo'ed Crawford over the years. One season started as a DE and then switched to DT. Then this season the opposite. Those players need time in the off-season to get their weight right depending on position. Crawford is heavy for SDE and Lawrence is heavy for RDE.

Hopefully they don't make plans around Gregory or Tapper. Those guys are just a bonus if they play but the probability seems low.

Mayowa has looked better since getting benched. If he can get a little stronger in the off-season it would help. He as the quickness.

With the commitment we made to TCrawford you would think they would put him in the best position to dominate......instead we use him as a crutch to fill in as a band-aid

We will know about Tapper and Gregory soon enough....they will be in or gone forever imo by March

 

[RandyOh]

Their was already teams with 20,30, and 40+ million in capspace before this news (think Browns had 60 mill cap before this news). Now this makes it much easier to move Romo for a pick or picks. Doubt we are big hitters in Free agency still though. Our front office has already said so. Also the players who could really help will be kept by their teams like Chandler Jones, Stephen Gilmore, Dre Kirkpatrick, Dont'a Hightower. Trumaine Johnson and JPP would be the big gets that i can see hit the market but JPP has already said he wants to return. Giants officials have said the same thing. Leaving Trumaine Johnson to get completely overpaid.

 

[iceberg]

That's actually some really great news. I know they said we're not going to be that active in FA, but this gives us the flexibility to at least add something of significance if the opportunity arises

i think it lets us sign our own bad arses.

 

[Trouty]

I think they will sign a free agent DE but it probably won't be a well know name.

A guy like Nick Perry from the Packers is interesting. He has 8 sacks this year. He is an OLB in their scheme but has DE size at 6-3, 265. He ran at 6.64 forty while weighing 271 in pre-draft workouts.

The Packers are more likely to let players leave than most other teams.

Mario Addison has 7.5 sacks as a backup DE in Carolina. He should not be expensive.

He looks GREAT, X, nice find, brother. On a one year, 5,050,00 contract, and an UFA after the season. He's only 26 and is roughly Gregory's size.

Before this year:

2012 -- 2 Sk (6 G 5 GS)
2013 -- 4 Sk (11 G 6 GS)
2014 -- 3 Sk (15 G 4 GS)
2015 -- 3.5 Sk (14 G 1 GS)

This year:

2016 -- 8 Sk (12 G 12 GS)

Maybe 4 yr @ 6m w 10.5 guar? @bkight13

Nice find, X

Edit -- it might take more than that. Maybe 4yr @ 6.5 12m guar

 

[xwalker]

With the commitment we made to TCrawford you would think they would put him in the best position to dominate......instead we use him as a crutch to fill in as a band-aid

We will know about Tapper and Gregory soon enough....they will be in or gone forever imo by March

I don't think we'll know about Tapper. He will likely be cleared to play and then could be fine or could remain injured like Chaz Green.

Jerry might never give up on Gregory because, IMO, Gregory was a Jerry pick. That's fine as long as they don't count on him when drafting or signing free agents.

 

[Nightman]

They're not BS.

The Yankees have a $7.7 billion television/radio contract. They receive $385 million a year. The Brewers get $12 million a year from their TV deal.

Compare that to the Giants versus the Packers in those same markets. The Packers have a chance to build a team, re-sign its own players, and be aggressive if they want to be in free agency. Just like the Giants. However, the Brewers simply can't play that game like the Yankees.

I'm a capitalist in every sense, but a "league" must be looked at as a single entitity as it is in the NFL, not a collection of separate businesses. Otherwise, the inequities are too imbalanced.

Soon, teams will be forced to "loan" their players to other teams like they do in soccer in Europe.

Baseball has revenue sharing without a salary cap and please don't use MIL as a small market case

Bud Selig milked millions out of MLB to protect his franchise at the expense of the NYY and got a stadium built for free...........OAK is being phased out of revenue sharing because they pocket the money instead of spending on players

The fans will take care of a franchise if they skimp.........do you really think JAX, SF and CLE are competing at 60m under the cap????

 

[xwalker]

I saw a couple of those guys but don't know their story.......they could be perfect at 5m AAV

I would like 1 free agent and 1 premium draft pick at DE.

Can they keep paying Crawford 9M average? I guess if TMcClain leaves that could put Crawford back inside but I might prefer a starting lineup of Irvin and Collins at DT.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

It's all relative. Cowboys get more cap room, so does everyone else.

Not really.....
If you have two homeless guys living on the street. Homeless guy #1 has $25 dollars in his pocket and knows he can eat for the next few days and homeless guy #2 has no money, is starving and doesn't know where his next meal is coming from. If I walk by and give each one $25, who benefits the most from my generosity? The guy that already had enough to eat because he has some money, or the guy that is starving because he had no money?

 

[Trouty]

I would like 1 free agent and 1 premium draft pick at DE.

Can they keep paying Crawford 9M average? I guess if TMcClain leaves that could put Crawford back inside but I might prefer a starting lineup of Irvin and Collins at DT.

We can't lose McClain. He's our best 1T, even tho Thornton has picked it up as of late (he's actually flashed at times). But because we have so much in Thornton, plus needing to re-sign Mo (and Church), we'll probably freaking lose him. I'd prefer to lose him if it meant to sign a guy like Nick Perry. So now I've kinda done a full circle in this post, Lol.

But losing McClain, esp if he stays healthy, is gonna sting.

 

[Trouty]

Not really.....
If you have two homeless guys living on the street. Homeless guy #1 has $25 dollars in his pocket and knows he can eat for the next few days and homeless guy #2 has no money, is starving and doesn't know where his next meal is coming from. If I walk by and give each one $25, who benefits the most from my generosity? The guy that already had enough to eat because he has some money, or the guy that is starving because he had no money?

I shouldn't, but

 

[xwalker]

We can't lose McClain. He's our best 1T, even tho Thornton has picked it up as of late (he's actually flashed at times). But because we have so much in Thornton, plus needing to re-sign Mo (and Church), we'll probably freaking lose him. I'd rather lose him to sign a guy like Nick Perry. But losing McClain, esp if he stays healthy, is gonna sting.

Agree. Collins plays some 1-tech also and would likely start there if McClain is gone. It would be Collins/Irving or Collins/TCrawford as the starters without McClain.

 

[Nightman]

We can't lose McClain. He's our best 1T, even tho Thornton has picked it up as of late (he's actually flashed at times). But because we have so much in Thornton, plus needing to re-sign Mo (and Church), we'll probably freaking lose him. I'd prefer to lose him if it meant to sign a guy like Nick Perry. So now I've kinda done a full circle in this post, Lol.

But losing McClain, esp if he stays healthy, is gonna sting.

Don't worry.......it isn't an either/or situation.....DAL can sign them all

DAL has up to 60m in cap space with rollover and a few cuts(Free, Hanna, Wilber)......the cap space is there, that is a fact........whether or not they choose to activate it is the same as the choice of signing a FA or not..... if a player is going to be on the roster that season there is no risk in restructuring his contract......plus any unused space can be rolled over

 

[Trouty]

Don't worry.......it isn't an either/or situation.....DAL can sign them all

DAL has up to 60m in cap space with rollover and a few cuts(Free, Hanna, Wilber)......the cap space is there, that is a fact........whether or not they choose to activate it is the same as the choice of signing a FA or not..... if a player is going to be on the roster that season there is no risk in restructuring his contract......plus any unused space can be rolled over

Can we lose Free with Green as injured as he always is? Free is solid, if we lose him we need to look to either FA to replace him or a Rd. 1-3 pick from our draft (I know, I know, X )

 

[Kaiser]

Can they keep paying Crawford 9M average?

That is a major question that has to be answered in the offseason. He makes 7.25MM in salary next year with a cap hit of 10.350 MM.

 

[Trouty]

That is a major question that has to be answered in the offseason. He makes 7.25MM in salary next year with a cap hit of 10.350 MM.

This is one of the very few contract gaffes (presumably) we have made since 2012. Looks to be a bad one. Hope it doesn't deter us from going after a name or two, Kaiser.

He did have a sack last game, as he does every 3-4 games as of late. He's closer to a 6aav 3T than a 9aav

24.6 mil guaranteed. Ouch.