Now time to sign Crawford and the OL

[MichaelWinicki]

Crawford is most likely looking at the Franchise Tag for 2016 if he doesn't go ahead and sign a deal, and DTs don't have nearly the mediocre leverage WRs do in this league. If I'm Crawford I'm signing a deal that makes more sense than risking a year on a Tag.

I just don't see it, i.e. Crawford getting the franchise tag.

I expect he'll be extended for a far less cost.

 

[Stash]

He seems like the type that doesn't value the dollar as the most important factor. If he likes it here he may choose comfortability over top money. A Dez type contract may be the ceiling with less guaranteed.

Just a guess though.

That's what I'm counting on a bit in my own thinking of Hardy's possible future with this team.

If he's got any sense, getting the most money won't be his sole rationale on a new deal.

This organization took a chance on him when nobody else would, that should count for something in my book.

The team has a strong support system in place for their players, that should also count for something.

They're arguably the highest profile team in their sport, that should count for something.

And they're a team with a legitimate chance of winning a championship, that should count for something.

I would hope that Hardy would realize that a slightly smaller offer from Dallas, might actually prove to be better for him overall than just some team throwing the most money at him.

If not, maybe he's not a guy you would want around long term anyway?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Murray wasn't, isn't and never will be worth $10M for 1 year. Especially coming off the workload season last year. We spent several months debating this issue in here (with varing amounts per year) with that same conclusion every time.

You shouldn't even waste your time... his "admiration" for Murray is over the top.

 

[Stash]

2015:

Dead Money
NameCap Number

Jed Collins$65,000

The situation with this player has caused me to wonder about him. He was signed and then cut essentially before he ever had the chance to actually show anything. Makes me wonder why they ever signed him in the first place?

 

[Stash]

I just don't see it, i.e. Crawford getting the franchise tag.

I expect he'll be extended for a far less cost.

If not, let him walk and look to draft a suitable replacement.

This team's current regime and structure doesn't seem to put a huge priority or emphasis on the defensive tackle position. And they have been able to adequately fill the position very cheaply thus far.

 

[conner01]

Dallas was afraid Murray would break down and offered him a contract that protected them if his age suddenly catches up with him. It's reported that we offered him the max of 6.5m per year. Of course there is always a signing bonus involved also. So instead of letting him go or committing long term to him we could have signed him under the franchise tag of 1 year 10 million. People will say there was no way we were going to pay him that much....the difference between what we offered and what we would have had to pay is 3.5 million. When you subtract out McFaddens money it's not a huge difference. However we would have Demarco returning for a Super Bowl run. Instead we have a committee of question marks and underachievers.

They should have signed Dez a long time ago and used the Franchise tag on Murray to lock him up for 10m for one more year.

We could have easily signed dez and used the tag on Murray
Though you would not have signed him to a 5/70 deal because he wouldn't have signed it
It silly to even think he would have signed this deal months ago
You think he just waited around for his health
Neither WR or their agent was going to accept a deal back then close to this

 

[conner01]

If not, let him walk and look to draft a suitable replacement.

This team's current regime and structure doesn't seem to put a huge priority or emphasis on the defensive tackle position. And they have been able to adequately fill the position very cheaply thus far.

I think based on what we've seen so far considering the tag on Crawford is silly
But unless the price gets crazy I think they will try to sign him
I don't think it's they don't value the position so much as they don't value the options they have had as much as others
It's not like we have had that many options who fit what rod wants on the dline

 

[MichaelWinicki]

If not, let him walk and look to draft a suitable replacement.

This team's current regime and structure doesn't seem to put a huge priority or emphasis on the defensive tackle position. And they have been able to adequately fill the position very cheaply thus far.

Agreed.

Plus the guys on the DL are going to get fewer snaps which makes it cost prohibitive to pay them as if they were getting 900-1,000 snaps a season. Last year Crawford had 643 snaps during the season.

 

[Garrettop]

I just don't see it, i.e. Crawford getting the franchise tag.

I expect he'll be extended for a far less cost.

Well many people have a pretty reasonable expectation that he should not only take a step forward this year anyway, but that the improved pieces around him will cause a significant jump in performance. I don't see anyone else on the list of UFAs that one would expect to have a chance at performing at a high level. Dallas could easily use the tag on him if he wouldn't sign a decent deal, which would be bad for him. He plays a particularly physical position - playing a year on a tag is not in his long term interest. The point of the tag, like with Dez, wouldn't be to have him on the tag for the season, but as leverage.

 

[conner01]

It matters more what kind of success he would have here this year. It has nothing to do with crowning him another Peterson. We have almost all the pieces in place for a super bowl run. We let the most productive player on our team go to the Eagles when we could have locked him up for 1 more year at a cost that isn't much more (if any more ) than what we offered him. And why? Because we were not successful in signing Dez without the threat of a franchise tag.

So you think we should have gave him CJ money so we could keep Murray
That was the option at the time and to say it wasn't is nothing but revisionist history and not based in fact

 

[conner01]

Agreed.

Plus the guys on the DL are going to get fewer snaps which makes it cost prohibitive to pay them as if they were getting 900-1,000 snaps a season. Last year Crawford had 643 snaps during the season.

that is a real key too
Players can be more effective in limited snaps
And rod likes quick guys who are generally smaller so that limited snap is really important

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Well many people have a pretty reasonable expectation that he should not only take a step forward this year anyway, but that the improved pieces around him will cause a significant jump in performance. I don't see anyone else on the list of UFAs that one would expect to have a chance at performing at a high level. Dallas could easily use the tag on him if he wouldn't sign a decent deal, which would be bad for him. He plays a particularly physical position - playing a year on a tag is not in his long term interest. The point of the tag, like with Dez, wouldn't be to have him on the tag for the season, but as leverage.

I just don't see it based on the number of snaps a DL gets in this system.

I addition I question if the Cowboys can reasonably "cap-afford" to do that next season (for Crawford). Yeah, you can always "squeeze" a guy in, but Dallas has been much more careful about doing that.

I look for Dallas to extend him at about $5 mil per season.

 

[Stash]

Well many people have a pretty reasonable expectation that he should not only take a step forward this year anyway, but that the improved pieces around him will cause a significant jump in performance. I don't see anyone else on the list of UFAs that one would expect to have a chance at performing at a high level. Dallas could easily use the tag on him if he wouldn't sign a decent deal, which would be bad for him. He plays a particularly physical position - playing a year on a tag is not in his long term interest. The point of the tag, like with Dez, wouldn't be to have him on the tag for the season, but as leverage.

Yeah, but at a rate like that, you have to ask yourself - who has the leverage?

If the going rate were near what you wanted to play the player per season? Sure, it makes great sense. Otherwise? Not so much.

 

[Stash]

I just don't see it based on the number of snaps a DL gets in this system.

I addition I question if the Cowboys can reasonably "cap-afford" to do that next season (for Crawford). Yeah, you can always "squeeze" a guy in, but Dallas has been much more careful about doing that.

I look for Dallas to extend him at about $5 mil per season.

I like the sound of $5 million per year, but I'm not sure if he would come that cheaply.

 

[Galian Beast]

Thing people need to remember about Crawford is that he was like a 3rd round draft pick and basically has made no money so far in his career.

He's 25 and this might be his last chance to get a big contract. He is a major up and coming player at his position to. Extremely unheralded. I wouldn't sign until the end of this year if I was him.

 

[Jarv]

Thing people need to remember about Crawford is that he was like a 3rd round draft pick and basically has made no money so far in his career.

He's 25 and this might be his last chance to get a big contract. He is a major up and coming player at his position to. Extremely unheralded. I wouldn't sign until the end of this year if I was him.

Then there is the possible injury thing, I would shoot for 4 million per year now (5) years now, see if he bites.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I like the sound of $5 million per year, but I'm not sure if he would come that cheaply.

Who knows... all conjecture. We'll see how it all sorts out.

 

[Galian Beast]

Then there is the possible injury thing, I would shoot for 4 million per year now (5) years now, see if he bites.

I love when people try to throw out ridiculously low numbers as if a player will just jump at it.

 

[burmafrd]

We will see but if I was crawfords agent I would be saying wait as well. Right now he would get a low ball offer; and as has been pointed out he is 25 and by the time that deal was done he would be considered over the hill or near to it. He has one shot at the big money and it will not come this year.

 

[Jarv]

I love when people try to throw out ridiculously low numbers as if a player will just jump at it.

Wow, I love it when people call 4 million/year a low number...lol. Maybe being the old man that I am I was thinking 4 million/year is a lot of money. Of course, were he to get injured at some point, that 20 million might look pretty good, at least to this old guy.