Now you all see why blaming Dak's contract was foolish, right?

[CowboyFrog]

How do you conflate those two points? The only window that's closing is to compete with Dak as our QB.
Some of us believe the window's closed.

And the reality is it may have never been open with this FO because non of the other windows were "Open" either...again name me the good coach/player contract this FO has done? 29 years shows maybe just maybe this FO wastes players and coaches at an alarming rate.

 

[stilltheguru]

Try not to be condescending, cool? I've been very cordial, but I've decided to discontinue the conversation based on the way you converse with other humans. Good luck!

You didn't need to broadcast that. Of course you won't continue. There's no person with football sense that thinks Dallas defense has played at a top 5 level in the playoffs while Philly in 2022 and 2024 has. It's not debatable really but when you have an agenda it makes sense.

I'm not a fan of Dak or the defense. You dudes don't like Dak but respect this soft pathetic defense. We're not the same.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Im gonna go out on a limb here and say this FO has made every contract they have signed for 30 years bad because they dont have a clue on how to build a winning team...fans then pick which players they like or dislike when at the end of the day it doesnt matter...This FO turns every coach/ player that comes here into a bad contract...period.

That's pretty obvious isn't it?

 

[zrinkill]

we've never been in close playoff games in the 2nd quarter

True

 

[stilltheguru]

True

If I provide proof will you tap out and admit wrong? Yes or no?

 

[CowboyoWales]

its been the same crap. people are now pointing to the 3rd contract. but in the 2nd contract, the first 3 years we had similar cap hits. yet didn't sign any FAs or improve the team. on his rookie deal, it was the same thing. always skimp over FA and go cheap to maximize profits. back then everyone complained, its 40M average, but the first three years it was 17,19,27M....

yes, Dak hasn't come through. but my argument isn't if he is good, or bad. a whole other argument, but the cap is not the issue for not being able to sign at least some impact FAs. the joneses are the issue.

and if a single contract paralyzes this organization, then this organization SUCKS in cap management. I look at top 5 to 10 contracts a team has. Philly top 6 contract is 170M. cowboys is 168M. one is playing in the superbowl, the other is top 12 pick.

their team is loaded, while we got holes everywhere. and then we go hire Schottenheimer as the head coach. a guy who has had one (or is it 2?) top 10 offenses his entire career (and that's with the cowboys), the rest has been 20th or worse and few times the worst in the league.

For someone who's ambivilent on Dak, you don't half 'regurgitate' a lot of the same 'crap' (your words) that doesn't half sound like you're defending him.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

How do you conflate those two points? The only window that's closing is to compete with Dak as our QB.
Some of us believe the window's closed.

OMG...dak dak dak dak dak dak dak. that's all you got
you are just so honed in and can't think of anything else. Dak is here for 4 years. whether you like it or not. that's jerry jones for you.

but the excuse from Jerry and Stephens for the cap that we don't have money, so we go after Zeke and a bunch of nobodies, spending 18M on outside FAs....to bolster where they screwed up..... they were 30th!!!!!

and I get it you want cowboys to totally suck, so you can come here and go dak dak dak dak...

my gawd. enough already. we get it. we get you one percenters that can't think, sleep, eat, or do anything without thinking Dak, 365x7x24x60x60. so obsessed!!!

If I say its raining outside, somehow you turn it into a Dak conversation. dude. not healthy for ya.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

For someone who's ambivilent on Dak, you don't half 'regurgitate' a lot of the same 'crap' (your words) that doesn't half sound like you're defending him.

huh? what!?

 

[CowboyoWales]

OMG...dak dak dak dak dak dak dak. that's all you got
you are just so honed in and can't think of anything else. Dak is here for 4 years. whether you like it or not. that's jerry jones for you.

but the excuse from Jerry and Stephens for the cap that we don't have money, so we go after Zeke and a bunch of nobodies, spending 18M on outside FAs....to bolster where they screwed up..... they were 30th!!!!!

and I get it you want cowboys to totally suck, so you can come here and go dak dak dak dak...

my gawd. enough already. we get it. we get you one percenters that can't think, sleep, eat, or do anything without thinking Dak, 365x7x24x60x60. so obsessed!!!

If I say its raining outside, somehow you turn it into a Dak conversation. dude. not healthy for ya.

Everytime you deflect away from Dak and his contract having any ramification on why the franchise is in a mess then you'll get responses.

 

[plymkr]

It's too bad Football isn't set up like tennis; Then maybe comparing QB's would make sense, 1-1.

Jalen is on a team ran by a FO that knows how to build a team. Nick Foles WON a superbowl with the eagles. If Jalen Hurts was here, do you think we'd have more success than we have had?

I believe I said this earlier in this thread that I completely agree that the Eagles are a better organization and have set Jalen up for success. But with that being said:
1. Jalen is a better QB than Dak is.
2. Dak is grossly overpaid
3. Jerry Jones is the worst thing to ever happen to the Cowboys. His ownership is tainted to look positive because of Jimmy Johnson and Herschel Walker.
4. Despite Dak’s play on the field, either positive or negative, he gave Jerry an ultimatum in a contract negotiating year that if he doesn’t keep Big Mike then he can get rid of him too. I don’t want my team leader giving ultimatums. That reeks of entitlement and dysfunctional behavior.

I asked this question earlier and never got an answer so I’ll ask it again. If today Micah gets on his podcast or at a press conference and says “If D-Ware isn’t hired as my positions coach then you can get rid of me”; what would be your response?

 

[jsb357]

Dak Prescott is Jerry Jones in player form.

 

[TexasBacon]

The Cowboys could've spent $0 or $1000000 in free agency and Dak's contract would still be the 2nd worst contract in NFL history, only behind Deshaun Watson.

Dak is also a major reason a career loser coordinator like Brian Schottenheimer is the head coach right now. Because he values comfort and continually over accountability.

Dak got what he wanted and his fans (the very few left) have another excuse for his failures.

Dak Prescott is Jerry Jones in player form. He is about about nothing else but Dak Prescott.

This is where you lose me on all your Dak takes. You have been right about his ability. You have been right about his inability to elevate this team. You have been right that his contract has been pretty damn awful relative to his play.

What I do not understand is what evidence you have to support that "he is about nothing else but Dak Prescott." You act like he's over here evilly twirling his moustache maliciously fleecing the Jones' and purposefully losing games. To my knowledge, there is virtually 0 evidence of Dak having poor character, or that he "values comfort over accountability." Just like Schottenheimer, it's not his fault the Jones' paid him. He's a professional athlete who has 1 of 32 jobs in all of existence and has held it for almost a decade. People like that don't have the mentality of somehow knowing they aren't good and are just in it for the money. I get he's the easiest target for all of our anger outside of the front office, and while I can't defend his play I will defend his character. That doesn't mean I want him as our QB anymore, but I will just never understand why your hatred of him is so seemingly personal. The Jones' shouldn't have paid him. Blame them.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Everytime you deflect away from Dak and his contract having any ramification on why the franchise is in a mess then you'll get responses.

how am I deflecting? you can't think or say and do anything, absolutely nothing without saying Dak

this is how you are
I say: Sky is blue
you say: Sky is blue, dallas wears blue, Dak
I say, Eggs and Ham,
you say: eggs and ham, Cowboys like breakfast, Dak
I say: night stars
you say: Stars, Dallas has stars on the helmet, Dak
I say: year 1993
you say: 1993, we lost NFCCG, that was the year Dak was born!!! its his fault; Dak

everything ends in Dak for you...obsessive compulsive behaviour....cult like. the extreme one-percenter. seek help. seriously. seek help.
Its cold and rainy outside today. I know somehow its Dak's fault.

let me help you out, with the last word

Dak

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

What I do not understand is what evidence you have to support that "he is about nothing else but Dak Prescott." You act like he's over here evilly twirling his moustache maliciously fleecing the Jones' and purposefully losing games. To my knowledge, there is virtually 0 evidence of Dak having poor character, or that he "values comfort over accountability." Just like Schottenheimer, it's not his fault the Jones' paid him. He's a professional athlete who has 1 of 32 jobs in all of existence and has held it for almost a decade. People like that don't have the mentality of somehow knowing they aren't good and are just in it for the money. I get he's the easiest target for all of our anger outside of the front office, and while I can't defend his play I will defend his character. That doesn't mean I want him as our QB anymore, but I will just never understand why your hatred of him is so seemingly personal. The Jones' shouldn't have paid him. Blame them.

He whines telling fans to "jump of the bandwagon" (as if one exists) anytime he sucks it up. He did this multiple times. This is just the most recent.



He is fine with fans throwing things at refs because he sucks and can't play well in the playoffs



He lies to your face telling you "I don't play for money" a couple weeks before signing the biggest contract ever.



He's not the beacon of goodness you want to believe he is. He is a fake.

 

[Clove]

The Cowboys could've spent $0 or $1000000 in free agency and Dak's contract would still be the 2nd worst contract in NFL history, only behind Deshaun Watson.

Dak is also a major reason a career loser coordinator like Brian Schottenheimer is the head coach right now. Because he values comfort and continually over accountability.

Dak got what he wanted and his fans (the very few left) have another excuse for his failures.

Dak Prescott is Jerry Jones in player form. He is about about nothing else but Dak Prescott.

So who do you blame prior to Dak being here? Dak is useless trash and should be off the team, but this is rearranging the titanic deck bro. Jerry is the real cancer of not only this team, but this organization. Dak didn't pay himself 60 mil, he didn't put a gun to Jerry's head and demand he be paid, he's doing what every human would do and that is try to get as much money as he can, and if Jerry is foolish enough to spend that, then so what?

Now what we'll see this year is a boost in play, and then the next 2 to 3 years will be trash again. Jerry seems like he'll never draft a first round QB, he'll never give a coach full power, he'll never hire a real coach, he'll never change the organizational culture of the team no matter what Schott has to say. Everything for the last 30 years is ON JERRY JONES.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

So who do you blame prior to Dak being here? Dak is useless trash and should be off the team, but this is rearranging the titanic deck bro. Jerry is the real cancer of not only this team, but this organization. Dak didn't pay himself 60 mil, he didn't put a gun to Jerry's head and demand he be paid, he's doing what every human would do and that is try to get as much money as he can, and if Jerry is foolish enough to spend that, then so what?

Now what we'll see this year is a boost in play, and then the next 2 to 3 years will be trash again. Jerry seems like he'll never draft a first round QB, he'll never give a coach full power, he'll never hire a real coach, he'll never change the organizational culture of the team no matter what Schott has to say. Everything for the last 30 years is ON JERRY JONES.

Jerry and Dak both suck.

 

[EPL0c0]

I don't blame Dak or his contract.

I blame Jerry Jones. Jerry is the GM. Jerry signs the checks. He has final say.

If you think it's a bad contract, blame Jerry. Don't give him a pass for what you think is a bad contract by blaming Dak.

 

[Blitzen]

depends on your perspective. when you have a guy who had his best statistical season, 2nd in MVP and was top 5 in jersey sales. it makes all kinds of finanical sense to resign him and cash in. (this is not advocating he is good or not, just that look at it from finanical perspective).
if you are actually looking at football stuff, then yeah, its stupid. Jerry cornered himself with Dak and the rest of the QBs on the roster. he got caught being stupid trading for Lance, where rumors were nobody really wanted him. then he hasn't drafted a QB in what? like 5,6, years (I don't count 6th, 7th round picks nothing but tokens, you must invest in some talent to develop, not long shots).

you have to remember, winning championships is not the top priority in dallas. when you fully grasp that and put all football stuff in the back burner, then all the moves make sense.

I wasn’t coming from a Jones’ perspective-just my own. It’s why I’ve missed over half the games the past 2 seasons. The team’s front office has no real desire to work hard for a championship. That’s something I think most have figured out.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I don't blame Dak or his contract.

I blame Jerry Jones. Jerry is the GM. Jerry signs the checks. He has final say.

If you think it's a bad contract, blame Jerry. Don't give him a pass for what you think is a bad contract by blaming Dak.

We arent blaming Dak (as you say Jerry is the main problem). We're just pointing out to those that hold on to the idea that we can still win with Dak and the Contract. When fans make comments about 'Restructure 100m of CAP' or 'the Eagles pay more on Top contracts' are dillusional as to the strength of our roster and Dak's abilities when he doesnt have a COMPLETE ROSTER (both sides of the ball).....especially when we only have FOUR years to achieve it.

I was actually advocating the Broaddus route 'career ending' contract that allowed heavy restructure that allowed it to be spread into infinity.

 

[JoeKing]

The Jones idiots were cheap even when Dak was on his rookie deal.

The Jones idiots have been cheap with outside free agents for YEARS.

The Jones idiots are cheap EVEN WITH COACHES, and there is no salary cap for coach contracts.

They paid Dak. Big whoop. They waited until the start of the season to pay him, BY DESIGN, so that they wouldn't have to spend another dime last offseason aside from CeeDee's deal.

They're a cheap and useless ownership group. Fans who blamed Dak or Dak's contract were essentially letting the Jones idiots off the hook for their lack of FA signings. Don't do that.

Many other teams paid their QB $50M+, and none of them were even close to as cheap as the Cowboys with outside free agents.

Jalen Hurts signed for $51M/year. The Eagles are ALSO paying AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, Dallas Goedert and *drumroll please* Saquon Barkley. They also have maybe the best OL and best defense in the NFL.

But Dak and CeeDee are supposed to win big, all on their own, because they're the "highest paid" at their positions? Bull****.

SELL THE TEAM!!!!!!!!

The OP doesn't know what he's talking about. The Joneses smartly determined early in the 2024 season the salary cap would need to be recalibrated to afford the better talent on the team when their contracts expire. They weren't "cheap", they were frugal.

As for the Eagles, they reloaded because they could afford to reload. The Cowboys could not afford to reload so they punted to make 2025 a better year. One or two positions being paid well does not mean the team should dominate in a team sport. Again, it's a team sport.

The reload was delayed a year but here it is. Watch what the front office does in the coming months to build this SB caliber roster.

Dallas Cowboys Playoff football is coming folks.