OC with 1st, 4th & 8th Ranked Offense

[G2]

Moore's offense was nearly last with Rush early on when the team was pretty healthy. And these rankings never take in account the running statistics for some reason.
Also, who cares because Moore was terrible in the play offs. How many more years do you want to give him a shot at calling a post season game vs. a good team?
We learned from Garrett that you need to crap or get off the toilet.

 

[Silly]

Moore needed to win more of the big games. Stats are stupid! The only thing that counts is Wins!

 

[Aven8]

I’m trying to figure out if most are freaking out about losing Moore because he was swooped up so fast? It was time for a change. He’s the only OC Dak has had outside of his rookie year, which was arguably his best year. Dak has regressed and whether that’s the OC or QB Coach it needed a change.

We’ve heard past WR’s complain about this offense for years with Coop being the last.

 

[EJK24]

It was time for a change, but they made the wrong change……wait and see……

You definitely could be right, however, the change at QB wasn't coming and I think we've seen that Moore and Dak together have probably reached their ceiling. I'm not promising this will be better but definitely am on board with going in another direction.

 

[Cowboyny]

in his first and only 3 seasons.........and fans couldn't wait to run him out of town. I know 34 year old successful OC's grow on trees, but this is nutty.. Before this season, PFF ranked Moore the 2nd best play caller in the NFL behind Reid in Kansas City, maybe thats a bit high, but is it? Hes 34 and has a lot of growing and learning to do, while already having a top 10 offense in every one his first 3 years on the job.. And fans literally couldn't get rid of him fast enough.

Reading the Chargers forums, they are all stoked about Moore coming over, and they should be. How many years will it take for Moore working with Herbert, a Legit Franchise QB, to get the Chargers offense playing like a top 5 unit in the NFL? 1 or 2 seasons?

I guess its easier to blame a coach than it is to blame a QB that you're stuck with. Running Moore out of town was not a logical move. Only a team like the Cowboys would fire a young talented OC with the offensive rankings he designed and called. Coaching for 3 years..3 straight top 10 rankings.. "Yeah, He Sucks!, Fire Him!!... We need a Real OC for Dak."

Lets see what Big Mike can do, which is a pretty nice consolation prize imo. If Dak leads the NFL in picks again, I'm sure it will be Mikes fault too.

Why did his offenses go into late slumps in consecutive years? Similar offensive results the last 2 years in the playoffs too. I really don't care how high an offense is ranked, if they cannot do it in meaningful games in Dec/Jan.

 

[Risen Star]

Fans just wanted change, regardless if that change made any sense or not.

Now they can pretend 2023 will be different.

 

[VaqueroTD]

Three constants on the continual Playoff flopping from Garrett to McCarthy.

• Jerry. Nothing going to happen there.
• Dak. Has had some good games, but team is also still committed to him.
• Kellen. Whether it solves it or not, something has to change if the goal is at least an NFC championship game.

 

[Grenic]

Should of been fired for that last play.

 

[Risen Star]

I give complete credit to @Reality for this:

I have had some issues with Moore's playcalling for a while such as ..

• the constant comeback routes, especially when playing against zone defenses.
• the short of the line-to-go throws on third downs.
• the slow developing out routes.
• the quick wide out throws without any misdirection or attempt to hide the play.
• the lack of attacking downfield, especially early in the game to keep the safeties honest.
• the lack of attacking the middle of the field.
• the badly designed trick plays.
• the trick plays called when there is no reason to call them.
• the lack of misdirection plays to keep the defense honest and guessing.
• giving the quarterback too much control over audibles when it's clear he's not great at it.

JMO but there are more @Reality could have come up with. That's the tip of the iceberg. All the regular season scoring and rankings are nice, but to score 12 points and lose in a game you thought you were going to win....NOT GOOD.

....and all of that still amounted to the 2nd most productive offense since 2019 behind only the Chiefs.

So on one hand we have actual production. On the other hand we have disgruntled fan thoughts.

Guess which one has validity.

 

[NotForLong]

in his first and only 3 seasons.........and fans couldn't wait to run him out of town. I know 34 year old successful OC's grow on trees, but this is nutty.. Before this season, PFF ranked Moore the 2nd best play caller in the NFL behind Reid in Kansas City, maybe thats a bit high, but is it? Hes 34 and has a lot of growing and learning to do, while already having a top 10 offense in every one his first 3 years on the job.. And fans literally couldn't get rid of him fast enough.

Reading the Chargers forums, they are all stoked about Moore coming over, and they should be. How many years will it take for Moore working with Herbert, a Legit Franchise QB, to get the Chargers offense playing like a top 5 unit in the NFL? 1 or 2 seasons?

I guess its easier to blame a coach than it is to blame a QB that you're stuck with. Running Moore out of town was not a logical move. Only a team like the Cowboys would fire a young talented OC with the offensive rankings he designed and called. Coaching for 3 years..3 straight top 10 rankings.. "Yeah, He Sucks!, Fire Him!!... We need a Real OC for Dak."

Lets see what Big Mike can do, which is a pretty nice consolation prize imo. If Dak leads the NFL in picks again, I'm sure it will be Mikes fault too.

 

[NotForLong]

I respect your stance on things but still feel it was time for a change.

that is the whole illogical point

 

[khiladi]

They blamed Moore, because they came full circles in their excuses for Dak…. At the beginning of the year, they were blaming Dak’s picks on Lamb not running routes right. But the picks continued to happen to other WRs..

 

[NotForLong]

Big Mike needs to get dak to work on things in the off-season that will help him. Like studying game tape and reading defenses.

Genius . . I wish they would have thought of this strategy years ago . . .

 

[Silly]

Fans just wanted change, regardless if that change made any sense or not.

Now they can pretend 2023 will be different.

It was more than Fans. Looks like Jerry did some house cleaning.

 

[EJK24]

that is the whole illogical point

How is that? Explain if you don't mind.

 

[NotForLong]

Fans just wanted change, regardless if that change made any sense or not.

Now they can pretend 2023 will be different.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I wonder if MM calls the plays and they promote someone to OC. We need an aggressive O-Line coach.

That's the fix right there. Get aggressive stability on O-line. When was the last time you saw an O-line up the field looking for someone to pancake?

With Zeke getting a good curbstomp....Tony will want to have some push and holes to chew yards up the field instead of showcasing his speed to the edge.

 

[DFWJC]

Dak beat him head to head last season(2021) too.

I think people around here need to decide if it's a team game or not and stick to their guns. Be consistent, whichever way you choose.

So, Ken: is it, or isn't it a team game?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Fans just wanted change, regardless if that change made any sense or not.

Now they can pretend 2023 will be different.

You really think fans are falling for that again?

There are times you just need a change. For better or worse. I doubt anyone is expecting some huge change.

It's abit of a win win. Kellen gets off the hot seat and can chill out somewhat. MM gets to pick his own OC (hopefully).

 

[Risen Star]

You really think fans are falling for that again?

There are times you just need a change. For better or worse. I doubt anyone is expecting some huge change.

It's abit of a win win. Kellen gets off the hot seat and can chill out somewhat. MM gets to pick his own OC (hopefully).

Yeah it's a huge win for Dallas. Now we can go from the 2nd most productive offense to the 1st. Can't wait.