Okay so who will be Dallas' one BIG FA signing?

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burmafrd;3265175 said:
Colombo played every game from 2007 on till his injury. He had one injury prior and needed 2 years to recover. he broke a bone which is not likely to happen again. So calling him injury prone is stupid. He is also only 31 and has several more good years left unlike the Hotel.

I agree. Colombo is more than serviceable and should be so for at least another 4 years.
 

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burmafrd;3265175 said:
Colombo played every game from 2007 on till his injury. He had one injury prior and needed 2 years to recover. he broke a bone which is not likely to happen again. So calling him injury prone is stupid. He is also only 31 and has several more good years left unlike the Hotel.

Okay, first of all when did I call him injury prone? What I said was he has a HISTORY of injury issues. It took the guy around four years to see the field because of knee problems. All I'm saying is, we do not know how Colombo will play next year, because it took him a while to recover from his knee issues. Is he a slow healer? None of us know. But we cannot bank on him being 100% and playing at a high level next season. We need to get YOUNGER on the OL.
 

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TheSport78;3265166 said:
Okay, you're missing my entire point. I want Free to be our RT next year, replacing COLOMBO. If this happens, we do not have to "go shopping" for anyone replacing Colombo.

And what "numbers" did I talk about? I just said our OL is old at the OT position and we have weaknesses handling pressure up the middle. Those aren't numbers, it's reality.

Yes, Colombo has been good for us these past couple of years, but do you KNOW he's going to be steady next year; coming off of those two injuries? How do you KNOW he won't be inconsistent next year, because he does have a history of injury problems. The Cowboys cannot bank on Colombo coming back, especially with his injury history, age, etc.

Flozell is still a good player, I think he has a few years left. It wasn't Doug Free who had problems with Jared Allen when Flo got hurt; it was Colombo getting abused almost every play by Ray Edwards.

Bottom line: LG and RT need to be upgraded this offseason.

burmafrd;3265175 said:
Colombo played every game from 2007 on till his injury. He had one injury prior and needed 2 years to recover. he broke a bone which is not likely to happen again. So calling him injury prone is stupid. He is also only 31 and has several more good years left unlike the Hotel.

agreed. some people get caught up in the #'s (in this case, age) then go get all defensive when you put the dots together THEY put forth.

TheSport78;3265179 said:
Okay, first of all when did I call him injury prone? What I said was he has a HISTORY of injury issues. It took the guy around four years to see the field because of knee problems. All I'm saying is, we do not know how Colombo will play next year, because it took him a while to recover from his knee issues. Is he a slow healer? None of us know. But we cannot bank on him being 100% and playing at a high level next season. We need to get YOUNGER on the OL.

because he has a history of injury problems?

now you're just making stuff up, as others are also saying to you.

how do you KNOW anyone replacing him in your fantasy land will be better?

you're making an awful lot of assumptions here and i'm just gonna quit palying. i've come to find people that don't use logic in their discussions seldom results in a good conversation.
 

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iceberg;3265191 said:
agreed. some people get caught up in the #'s (in this case, age) then go get all defensive when you put the dots together THEY put forth.



because he has a history of injury problems?

now you're just making stuff up, as others are also saying to you.

how do you KNOW anyone replacing him in your fantasy land will be better?

you're making an awful lot of assumptions here and i'm just gonna quit palying. i've come to find people that don't use logic in their discussions seldom results in a good conversation.

:lmao:Are you serious? So you're saying there's no difference between being "injury prone" and "having a history of injury problems?" Injury prone is someone who cannot stay healthy year in and year out, which is NOT Colombo. Before his injury in Green Bay, he didn't have any injury issues since coming to Dallas. Stop generalizing and read what I actually typed.

I KNOW Free can be a very solid RT for us because HE STARTED SEVEN GAMES THIS YEAR and the offense did not miss a beat. THAT'S why.
 

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TheSport78;3265194 said:
:lmao:Are you serious? So you're saying there's no difference between being "injury prone" and "having a history of injury problems?" Injury prone is someone who cannot stay healthy year in and year out, which is NOT Colombo. Before his injury in Green Bay, he didn't have any injury issues since coming to Dallas. Stop generalizing and read what I actually typed.

I KNOW Free can be a very solid RT for us because HE STARTED SEVEN GAMES THIS YEAR and the offense did not miss a beat. THAT'S why.


wow. that's quite a bit to ponder and digest. i think i shall go sit in the park and feed the pidgeons while i work to comprehend the complexities you generate on such a frequent basis.
 

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I am going to post this on a Commanders forum. They eat this logic up. It gives them little fits of peeing their pants in glee.

Mark my words, we need one more big time leader on this team that knows what it is to be a champion, and what it takes to get there and be the best.

I leave you this little piece of logic from Tony Romo. He said each year you try to improve and get better and for some other players to work their butts off too. Whereas Troy Aikman demanded perfection and things done right. Even Charles Haley told Aikman if you have any trouble out of the players in the offensive huddle that dont do what you tell them to do, etc.. let me know, I will straighten them out.

Romo is getting there but he still has no cluse what it takes to get to the NFC championship game and to win. Even troy aikman said that the dallas cowboys players had no ideal till charles haley got there, or like when herb adderly told the cowboy players in 70s I am going to show you what it takes.

And that believe it or not, is logic from former pro football hall of fame players that knew what it took and how. Thats what this team needs to put them over the top.
 

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iceberg;3265197 said:
wow. that's quite a bit to ponder and digest. i think i shall go sit in the park and feed the pidgeons while i work to comprehend the complexities you generate on such a frequent basis.

:confused: Nice response?
 

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NextGenBoys;3264866 said:
To be honest, I dont think we're going to have a BIG free agent signing.

It's just my opinion, but I think those who believe we ARE going to get one are going to be disappointed.


I agree. I dont see it happening. We arent one player away. We have talent to win it all. Gotta get the right players on the field.

NOW... IF I had a "dream" signing. It would be Julius Peppers(available or not I dunno). As great as Ware is he would absolutely EXPLODE into the backfield and get MORE sacks (or split them with Peppers).

Our D line needs to be more effective. We should have obliterated Favre and we didnt.
 

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This could be the thinnest free agent market in years.

Owners now have unlimited money to sign their own guys and--relatively speaking--there just aren't many big UFA icebergs breaking free from their respective continents.

As for wishes: If New England somehow let Vince go and we could plug a 360 pound guy in the middle and slide Ratliff to DE........ But it won't happen.
 

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YoMick;3265223 said:
NOW... IF I had a "dream" signing. It would be Julius Peppers(available or not I dunno). As great as Ware is he would absolutely EXPLODE into the backfield and get MORE sacks (or split them with Peppers).

That would be my second ranked fantasy.
 

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Hostile;3265109 said:
I do not want BIG NAME free agents any more.

Last year we had people clamoring for Ray Lewis. We got Keith Brooking for a song in comparison to the money Ray wanted.

I don't mind adding Free Agents, but the big name guys never make a difference. Tell me who is the big name Free Agent that the Colts signed this off season? Who is the Saints version? Who did Pittsburgh sign last year? Who did the Cardinals sign last year? What about the Patriots the year before? Or the Giants?

Every year the Commanders sign the biggest Free Agent on the market or at least top 5. 4-12 in 2009. How is that practice looking?

Where did signing TO get us in the long run? He felt he was more important than the whole team. He was the missing piece.

I am not in favor of big name guys. It is just that simple.

Again, doesnt have to be a big name, but a top player like keith brooking was. If you remember brooking was a high first round draft choice and a very good llinebacker, that you know who said he was washed up, etc...

We all saw how brooking transformed our team, even rossum helped some with helping crayton and ware on some advice.
 

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cowboyjoe;3265198 said:
Mark my words, we need one more big time leader on this team that knows what it is to be a champion, and what it takes to get there and be the best.

I leave you this little piece of logic from Tony Romo. He said each year you try to improve and get better and for some other players to work their butts off too. Whereas Troy Aikman demanded perfection and things done right. Even Charles Haley told Aikman if you have any trouble out of the players in the offensive huddle that dont do what you tell them to do, etc.. let me know, I will straighten them out.

Romo is getting there but he still has no cluse what it takes to get to the NFC championship game and to win. Even troy aikman said that the dallas cowboys players had no ideal till charles haley got there, or like when herb adderly told the cowboy players in 70s I am going to show you what it takes.

And that believe it or not, is logic from former pro football hall of fame players that knew what it took and how. Thats what this team needs to put them over the top.

The only guy out there that MIGHT fit this profile is Richard Seymour. That means we let Spears walk and draft a DE to groom and fill the void after Seymour rides off into the sunset. Bowen and Hatcher will also need to be retained...
 

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Three players Dallas should target in FA:

1) Richard Seymour, Oakland Raiders (30)
Seymour has been coined one of the best defensive linemen of the decade and had at one time made himself a fixture in Honolulu. An injury and a slight drop-off in his play altered his image around the league, but is still undoubtedly one of the best talents on the defensive line. Seymour has the ability and experience of playing 4-3 DT and 3-4 DE. He excels in run defense, but also has the ability to apply pressure and collapse the pocket. With his move to Oakland, the defensive line had been injected with a burst of energy and has performed pretty well down the stretch. Seymour didn’t seem too excited about being blindsided in a trade to Oakland, but has said he is interested in returning to Oakland and has begun contract talks with Al Davis. If a deal isn’t reach, expect the Raiders to apply the franchise tag on Seymour.

20 Ryan Pickett, Green Bay Packers (30)
Under Dom Capers, the Packers defense has made a complete transformation into a new unit. The most impressive turnaround comes from the defensive line and the front 7’s ability to stop the run. Pickett has turned around his career in Green Bay and done a fantastic job at NT on run downs, where almost all of his snaps have come. First round pick BJ Raji saw seeing most of the snaps in passing situations. Though Pickett isn’t nearly an every down nose tackle, he’s one of the underrated nose tackles on the market. If his price ends up being out of the range for Ted Thompson, the Packers could feasibly turn to their top 10 selection and hope he performs at a high level. The first among Wilfork, Franklin, and Hampton should set a good asking price for the other free agents.

30 Tyrone Carter, Pittsburgh Steelers (34) plays safety.
 

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TheSport78;3265208 said:
lol the defense rests

I like Free at RT but I'm not convinced that he is better than a healthy Colombo. The fact that Colombo has a history of injuries is about as relevant as the fact that I like to drink hot tea in the winter. Colombo didn't let us down against the Vikings, the coaches did by letting him play so early after breaking his leg. Right now I'm more concerned about finding Flo's eventual replacement than anybody else. Colombo and Free have the RT side shored up in my book...
 

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I don't think Jerry will bring in a high profile FA.Although you never know what to expect from Jerry at times.I would think that they will pursue some FA's that are in the same mold as Igor/Sensabaugh,guys that aren't considered high profile but rather middle of the road ball players.

Craig
 

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I do not want him ...... but it would not surprise me if they pick up Mr. Steroid
Shawn Merriman to backup Ware and Spencer (though I am sure there are still some people on here who think Merriman should start)
 

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Wood;3265258 said:
Three players Dallas should target in FA:

Seymour would be pretty nice, although I don't think they'll do that because they don't believe he's the final piece of the puzzle.

I'd LOVE to see them bring in a good kicker, and not have to worry about some draft pick panning out.

Barring those two possibilities, somebody in the Sensabaugh roll is a possibility if they want to replace him, or another guard although I'm not holding my breath.
 

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CowboyFan74;3265261 said:
I like Free at RT but I'm not convinced that he is better than a healthy Colombo. The fact that Colombo has a history of injuries is about as relevant as the fact that I like to drink hot tea in the winter. Colombo didn't let us down against the Vikings, the coaches did by letting him play so early after breaking his leg. Right now I'm more concerned about finding Flo's eventual replacement than anybody else. Colombo and Free have the RT side shored up in my book...

I respect your opinion but I'm going to respectfully disagree. If Colombo knew he was going to hurt the team with not being fully recovered, then he should have said something to the athletic or coaching staff. You can't blame the coaching staff by going what the athletic training staff said. The only person who really knows if they're ready is the player. Colombo thought he was ready; he was wrong and he got abused the entire game. With regards to a healthy Colombo being better than Free; I believe that's the chance this organization needs to take. This organization has a history of keeping young, talented players on the bench until they're forced on the field or having ridiculous in season rotations between cornerbacks (see Miles Austin and Mike Jenkins).
 
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