Only four players remain from 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 Drafts

[Idgit]

Gosh you don't think Crawford or Hanna showed some glimpses?

Granted folks like Lee need to stay on the field but what they have shown has been very good.

Crawford and Hanna both looked good. Especially Crawford.

I think we all understand that it takes some years to determine how a draft pans out. At the same time, you're able to evaluate it as it develops and your projections get increasingly better. We've added a lot of young talent via the draft and college FA over the last three years. There's no good reason to expect that trend won't continue, and it's maybe more important than anything in football besides taking care of the football.

That's why it'd be nice if we're able to parley picks or players into additional selections down the road. We need to gradually build up some ammunition so that we can do more in the areas where we've shown some recent aptitude.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

We've added a lot of young talent via the draft and college FA over the last three years. There's no good reason to expect that trend won't continue

Really?:laugh2: really....REALLY!

 

[jjktkk]

reading comprehension is your friend. You of course missed where I said that if you missed early you had to hit late.

If I type slower, will you, maybe, understand my orignal question to your post:

If you do not come out of each draft with three guys that will start for you that draft is a failure.

Do you mean day 1 starter, down the road maybe? Coming out of a draft with 3 day 1 starters would be quite a haul, but to deem a draft a "failure" if you do not come away with 3, day 1 starters, is going a bit overboard.

 

[khiladi]

Dallas went to the play-offs twice during those years and won once.

 

[Idgit]

Really?:laugh2: really....REALLY!

Yes. What roster have you been watching?

Dez Bryant, Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, Morris Claiborne, Tyron Smith, Barry Church, Phil Costa, DeMarco Murray, Dan Bailey, Chris Jones. These are good, young, players. Coming both from the draft and from off the street. If we're able to add another 3-4 key role players the same way this offseason, we'll have done really well.

Honestly, I wonder how it is some of you think good teams get built sometimes. It's the steady accumulation of good players that fit what you're trying to do, and good coaches to help them make the transition that matters. It's not all young superstars and FA acquisitions, and you can't always judge talent just by looking at who makes the postseason and working backwards.

 

[Wood]

Jason Hatcher
Anthony Spencer
Doug Free
Orlando Scandrick

This is supposed to be the meat and bones of this team.

its explains why Dallas is locking up these older players and why unfortunately the cycle will get worse before it gets better. Dallas needs very good draft this year.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

This just further proves what damage was done by the "back the stadium for quick cash" tenure of the football *****.

 

[khiladi]

I think it demostrates more so that Dallas had a core group of players that it can win with, but the window is getting really short. They aren't doing enough to bring in impact players that can help them win right away, as well as their coaching being bad. That is why they are now consistently hovering at 8-8.

The idea of drafting for the 'long-term' in the areas isn't going to work when Romo hits the ceiling and is old. If there is no QB when players like Sean lee, Carter or Claiborne hit their prime, and they are already good enough to win now, it isn't going to matter they have guys that are the 'right kind'.

 

[khiladi]

Look at Denver... They know Manning's window is short and just added Wes Welker for 2 years, paying him big money. That 2 years is obviously, from a casual observation, in tune with Peyton's 'career'.

 

[perrykemp]

Yes. What roster have you been watching?

Dez Bryant, Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, Morris Claiborne, Tyron Smith, Barry Church, Phil Costa, DeMarco Murray, Dan Bailey, Chris Jones. These are good, young, players. Coming both from the draft and from off the street. If we're able to add another 3-4 key role players the same way this offseason, we'll have done really well.

Honestly, I wonder how it is some of you think good teams get built sometimes. It's the steady accumulation of good players that fit what you're trying to do, and good coaches to help them make the transition that matters. It's not all young superstars and FA acquisitions, and you can't always judge talent just by looking at who makes the postseason and working backwards.

Idgit, problem is the list of players you mentioned have a lot of question marks -- none of single one of them has stepped up to be a Pro-bowl player yet with the exception of Dez who didn't make the Probowl but played at that level:

Sean Lee: Good but has spent time on IR in the past two seasons
Carter: Good but has spent time on IR in the past two season
Murray: Good but has spent time on IR in the past two seasons
Claiborne: OK in his rookie year -- hopefully will reach his potential
Tyron Smith: Ranked in the bottom half of LTs last season -- hopefully will reach his potential
Barry Church: Kinda of an unknown. Looked good in 2 games last year then went on IR
Phil Costa: Has looked good at times, however, continues to have major injury problems

Yes -- these are good young talents. The problem is talent does not always equal production and just about the entire list you named off has questions marks of one sort or another.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Look at Denver... They know Manning's window is short and just added Wes Welker for 2 years, paying him big money. That 2 years is obviously, from a casual observation, in tune with Peyton's 'career'.

The Dallas GM already squandered his chance, the salary cap is alive and well.

Cowboys are simply not able to compete with teams in Free Agency around the NFL who have Millions to spend.

 

[cowboysooner]

The mighty and brilliant New England Patriots have 4 players from those drafts as well including the kicker. That is life in the NFL.

And for the 2009 draft, they have 1 player Sebastian Vollmer and had 8 picks in the top 4 rounds. 2009 was freakishly horrible and pretty much only the Ravens did very well.

 

[jjktkk]

Idgit, problem is the list of players you mentioned have a lot of question marks -- none of single one of them has stepped up to be a Pro-bowl player yet with the exception of Dez who didn't make the Probowl but played at that level:

Sean Lee: Good but has spent time on IR in the past two seasons
Carter: Good but has spent time on IR in the past two season
Murray: Good but has spent time on IR in the past two seasons
Claiborne: OK in his rookie year -- hopefully will reach his potential
Tyron Smith: Ranked in the bottom half of LTs last season -- hopefully will reach his potential
Barry Church: Kinda of an unknown. Looked good in 2 games last year then went on IR
Phil Costa: Has looked good at times, however, continues to have major injury problems

Yes -- these are good young talents. The problem is talent does not always equal production and just about the entire list you named off has questions marks of one sort or another.

Yes they do have question marks, but these players are all young, and have room to improve, so not sure what your are trying to get at, other than these young players have question marks.

 

[junk]

This just further proves what damage was done by the "back the stadium for quick cash" tenure of the football *****.

Parcells?

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4727905&postcount=151

I guess you can add Spencer's Pro Bowl to that list, but it is pretty hard to dispute those numbers.

If Parcells was doing damage, what in the heck have the coaches since been doing?

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Parcells?

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4727905&postcount=151

I guess you can add Spencer's Pro Bowl to that list, but it is pretty hard to dispute those numbers.

If Parcells was doing damage, what in the heck have the coaches since been doing?

I missed your original post, so thanks for linking it. That is some good info to see.

Edit: Well, good in the respect that it was presented, not good in the actual results themselves

 

[JakeCamp12]

The simple fact is that we have not put enough consecutive drafts together to make a legitimate Super Bowl push. We need at least 4 strong drafts together in order to create the core team as well as strong role players. Youth wins in the NFL. Until that happens we will be 8-8.

 

[cowboys2233]

Yep.

Actually back to back 8-8 seasons based on that drafting history is pretty good.

One reason. Romo.

 

[Risen Star]

Look at Denver... They know Manning's window is short and just added Wes Welker for 2 years, paying him big money. That 2 years is obviously, from a casual observation, in tune with Peyton's 'career'.

They also have a nice prospect in the pipeline in Brock Osweiler to maybe have a relatively seamless transition when Manning is done.

 

[CIWhitefish]

They also have a nice prospect in the pipeline in Brock Osweiler to maybe have a relatively seamless transition when Manning is done.

Sorry, Brock may be a good prospect but there isn't much out there that would make a transition from Manning maybe look relatively seamless.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

FOUR players left from all those drafts? I challenge anyone to find a team with a worse draft history than that.....maybe Jacksonville? That's an ABOMINATION........I just posted in the "trade down" thread how JJ and his minions can't be trusted to pull it off: this thread proves that I'm 100% on unfortunately

Check out the Patriots recent drafts and see how many players they have from those drafts still on their team. And they had numerous #1's and #2's in the same years.