Opinion: If we don't win out-we aren't getting in

JBS

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Obviously, this thread title should have "opinion" in it, because it's not factually correct. We don't even need to win out to get the No. 2 seed.

My thread made it pretty clear that it's my opinion...based on the facts I provided, my opinion would hold true

Feel free to try and find a scenario where we win 11 games and none of the 4 teams I listed win less than 11 games and we get in...

Go for it
 

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The seahawks don't need to lose 2/3. We have the tie breaker if we both end up with 11 wins. Just can't be another team tied with us.

Seattle is going to win their division so the Cowboys fight is with Arizona, not Seattle.
 

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Seattle is going to win their division so the Cowboys fight is with Arizona, not Seattle.

Right and AZ would have to lose all 3 games and we would have to win all 3 games. You know how we play versus teams that are above .500 right? Well, we have to play 2 of those teams out of our next 3. We are done.
 

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LOL at this guy. You must have trouble counting. There are 3 games left for every contending in the NFC and each one has 3-4 losses. There's you FACTS and PROOF that a wild card is still possible. Now go away bc you don't know what you are talking about.

Go ahead and prove me wrong...

Find a scenario where dallas wins 11 games and none of the 4 teams I listed win less than 11 and dallas gets in...

Prove me wrong..go for it
 

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If we don't win out, the odds are definitely slim that we will make the playoffs. You can play around with the ESPN payoff machine if you don't believe the OP. We lose the three-way tie breaker in pretty much all cases. Therefore, if we end up 11-5, we need Arizona to lose the next 3 OR Detroit to lose 2 of their next 3 OR Seattle to lose 2 of their next 3.

We can also get in if Detroit passes GB for division title and GB ends up at 11-5 with us.

We can't get in the playoffs in any scenario of AZ, SEA or DET in a 3 way tie breaker with us.

The Arizona win today was a killer.
 

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Right and AZ would have to lose all 3 games and we would have to win all 3 games. You know how we play versus teams that are above .500 right? Well, we have to play 2 of those teams out of our next 3. We are done.

Yep, I don't think anyone on here would put down big money on the Cowboys beating the Eagles and the Colts in consecutive weeks, and that's what it will take in order to make the playoffs.
 

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My thread made it pretty clear that it's my opinion...

Like I said, the thread title should have "opinion" in it, because it is not factually correct. As your OP states, certain things would have to happen to keep us out of the playoffs at 11-5. The thread title says nothing about the caveats that are in your OP.

The mods regularly edit thread titles to differentiate between opinions and facts so that people are not misled by thread titles that are stated as facts but are merely opinions. In my opinion, that should be done in this case as well.
 

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Like I said, the thread title should have "opinion" in it, because it is not factually correct. As your OP states, certain things would have to happen to keep us out of the playoffs at 11-5. The thread title says nothing about the caveats that are in your OP.

The mods regularly edit thread titles to differentiate between opinions and facts so that people are not misled by thread titles that are stated as facts but are merely opinions. In my opinion, that should be done in this case as well.

So you are concerned about the title of the thread...wonderful..

Thanks for your contribution
 

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If we don't win out, the odds are definitely slim that we will make the playoffs. You can play around with the ESPN payoff machine if you don't believe the OP. We lose the three-way tie breaker in pretty much all cases. Therefore, if we end up 11-5, we need Arizona to lose the next 3, Detroit to lose 2 of the next 3 or Seattle to lose 2 of their next 3.

We can also get in if Detroit passes GB for division title and GB ends up at 11-5 with us.

We can't get in the playoffs in any scenario of AZ, SEA or DET in a 3 way tie breaker with us.

The Arizona win today was a killer.

If we finish 11-5 we only need Seattle to lose one game out of last 3. Detroit can win all 3 or lose 2 and we're in. Right now it is still not a given all 3 of those teams finish 11-5. Detroit can go 12-4 or 10-6 as easily as they go 11-5.
 

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Like I said, the thread title should have "opinion" in it, because it is not factually correct. As your OP states, certain things would have to happen to keep us out of the playoffs at 11-5. The thread title says nothing about the caveats that are in your OP.

The mods regularly edit thread titles to differentiate between opinions and facts so that people are not misled by thread titles that are stated as facts but are merely opinions. In my opinion, that should be done in this case as well.

The odds are slim we get in at 11-5 based upon a pretty objective analysis of the likely scenarios.
 

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If we finish 11-5 we only need Seattle to lose one game out of last 3. Detroit can win all 3 or lose 2 and we're in. Right now it is still not a given all 3 of those teams finish 11-5. Detroit can go 12-4 or 10-6 as easily as they go 11-5.

You are right. Detroit needs to get to 12-4 or 10-6 to keep us out of the three way tie scenario at 11-5. I forgot the OR in the original post.
 

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It's not very encouraging. Only way we get in is if one of the following 4 teams finishes w 10 wins

Cardinals - already at 10. Must lose out. Unlikely

Lions - need to lose vs min or @chi. Probably best chance and still not likely.

Eagles - have to lose to us and @was or @ny...maybe

Seahawks - need to lose 2/3...very unlikely

I don't see any of the above happening...we need to win 12 games to get in

Cardinals starting Rb on IR. Starting QB on IR. Unlikely?
@ St Louis who can suddenly beat anybody.
Seattle, yeah they'll win that.
@San Fran sure win there too... o_O:banghead:
 

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You are right. Detroit needs to get to 12-4 or 10-6 to keep us out of the three way tie scenario at 11-5. I forgot the OR in the original post.

One thing to keep in mind is everyone is playing mostly divisional games from here on out where upsets happen all the time
 

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Arizona will probably be favored over a reeling SF team and Chicago is without Brandon Marshall thanks to Barry Church, and Detroit gets the Vikings at home where they have been outstanding. It's highly likely that both AZ and DET get 11 wins.

Which sucks because the both have the tie breaker over us.
 

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One thing to keep in mind is everyone is playing mostly divisional games from here on out where upsets happen all the time

This is the kicker...I agree here...somebody will probably lose a division game they shouldn't
 

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The negative nancy is me figures that DET and Arizona both crash and burn. All Dallas would have had to do to get in was win any two of the last three but only win one :(
 

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The odds are slim we get in at 11-5 based upon a pretty objective analysis of the likely scenarios.

It's about 80 percent that we get in if we finish 11-5 -- ~31 percent chance of winning the division, or ~58 percent chance of getting a wild card.

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/cowboyswhatif.html

The division percentage obviously increases if our loss is to the Colts.
 
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