Our safeties were nothing less than a disgrace today...

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SultanOfSix;1077236 said:
So what? Watkins could have been lined up wrong. That's why I said, unless you know the defense called, you don't know who is at fault.


Oh give me a freaking break!

Please stop! You're killing me! :lmao2:
 

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SultanOfSix;1077236 said:
So what? Watkins could have been lined up wrong. That's why I said, unless you know the defense called, you don't know who is at fault.

Ok, yeah, it had to be watkins fault, yeah, right. Put everything on Watkins.........dear god.

Watch the play, it was Roy. Yes, he made a mistake. Accept it.
 

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InmanRoshi;1077114 said:
You mean same pass rush that actually sacked McNabb and forced a fumble for a touchdown?

The pass rush was more than adequate today. The rest of the defense played their hearts out against the league's highest scoring offense in their backyard consistantly put in bad situation.

Unfortunately, they also have an achliellies heal.

open your eyes dude

we had 3,4 maybe 5 plays where we bothered McNabb...the rest of the time he had basically ALL the time he could possibly want...and he wasnt taking 3 step drops play after play either...he was taking 5 and 7 step drops alot, and still we couldnt touch him

or maybe you'll try to sell me on that lame "we wanted to keep him in the pocket" excuse that people tried to spin last week

face it, we absolutely SUCK at rushing the QB...we have for years and will continue to do so until this style of play is gone

David
 

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MichaelWinicki;1077254 said:
Oh give me a freaking break!

Please stop! You're killing me! :lmao2:

Dude, it was a funny response, but that is the love we have for Roy.

Blind to any of his issues.
 

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Deep_Freeze;1077263 said:
Ok, yeah, it had to be watkins fault, yeah, right. Put everything on Watkins.........dear god.

Watch the play, it was Roy. Yes, he made a mistake. Accept it.

And you know this how? Just because Roy let him go? Newman has let plenty of receivers go, only to have them burn Davis for a touchdown.

You haven't proved anything, only your agenda.
 

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Just thought I'd start this one up since they are probably just as much to blame for this loss as Bledsoe is. They gave up three long plays, two of which were touchdowns and the third eventually turned into a touchdown.

Did Bledsoe make some horrible throws that hurt our chances to win? He sure did. Did the secondary give up some huge plays that hurt our chances to win? They sure did. Say what you want about Bledsoe and how he cost us this game, but watch the game unbiased and you will see that the secondary is just as much to blame for this loss as Bledsoe is.
 

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should be safeties suck. Newman, Henry, and Glenn played well. And why in the hell is Zimmer calling a freaking Corner Blitz?
 

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When you give any NFL QB 10 seconds to make a read and pass they will pick you a part.
 

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SultanOfSix;1077287 said:
And you know this how? Just because Roy let him go? Newman has let plenty of receivers go, only to have them burn Davis for a touchdown.

You haven't proved anything, only your agenda.

Yes, i have a secret agenda, I know Jerry is reading this and he will listen to me...........umm, no.

Dude, Roy was the safety, the last man on the D, he let the guy run right past him. Sure, when Newman lets someone past, it is usually cause he is in a zone or he has safety help in a certain area.

Roy, our starting safety, didn't have safety help, lol.

BlueStar22;1077303 said:
should be safeties suck. Newman, Henry, and Glenn played well. And why in the hell is Zimmer calling a freaking Corner Blitz?

Heaven knows. I hate them, and it is the dumbest thing in the world to run one with a rookie safety. Stupid.
 

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Deep_Freeze;1077354 said:
Yes, i have a secret agenda, I know Jerry is reading this and he will listen to me...........umm, no.

What does Jerry have to do with this?

Dude, Roy was the safety, the last man on the D, he let the guy run right past him. Sure, when Newman lets someone past, it is usually cause he is in a zone or he has safety help in a certain area.

So what? The fact of the matter is you HAVE NO IDEA what defense was called. You have NO IDEA who's responsibility the coverage of LJ Smith fell to.

And I have a higher probability of being correct on the notion that a rookie safety is MORE LIKELY to make a mistake than one who's been playing in the league for three years.
 

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TEK2000;1076977 said:
Some of you people are ridiculous.. if you actually expected Pat Watkins NOT to give up some big plays this season and ESPECIALLY in this game... you are an idiot!


I am not going to blame Watkins for EITHER TD. He is a rookie, he will need help. On the first TD, ELLIS didn't do his job, that is who should be blamed for the first TD. On the second, Watkins did bite, but recovered, ROY mis judged the ball and looked like he never played the position before and didn't help the kid at all. Overall, Watkins did what rookies do. Its up to the VETs on D to step up and help the kid out.
 

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you don't get a free ride just because you're a rookie. if you earned the job, do the job. getting burned twice for long td's will get you benched.
 

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SultanOfSix;1077393 said:
What does Jerry have to do with this?



So what? The fact of the matter is you HAVE NO IDEA what defense was called. You have NO IDEA who's responsibility the coverage of LJ Smith fell to.

And I have a higher probability of being correct on the notion that a rookie safety is MORE LIKELY to make a mistake than one who's been playing in the league for three years.

Oh goodness, you can't be serious.....really?

There is no defense in the universe that should allow the TE to run free to the endzone. This play happened on Roy's side, not Watkins, this is made obvious by the fact that he had to run all the way across the field to make the tackle.

BTW, newsflash, Roy has made mistakes in coverage. So your probability makes it worse.
 

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30yrheel;1077432 said:
you don't get a free ride just because you're a rookie. if you earned the job, do the job. getting burned twice for long td's will get you benched.

If Watkins is going to the bench then Bledsoe should be buried under it.
 

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InmanRoshi;1077067 said:
For all the crap that Keith Davis got last year as a first year starter, he never had a game as bad as what Watkins had today. Further, I don't think I ever saw him crying on the sidelines like a junior high kid.

Did you catch Parcell's comment today about the corner blitz call? They said they wouldn't have called it but that they KNEW the play Philadelphia was going to. It was called to stop that pass. And the guy they expected to get open, a linebacker, had a shot at McNabb, and missed the sack.

It wasn't just Watkins fault.

David.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1077447 said:
If Watkins is going to the bench then Bledsoe should be buried under it.

oh, i agree. won't happen though.
 

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Deep_Freeze;1077443 said:
Oh goodness, you can't be serious.....really?

There is no defense in the universe that should allow the TE to run free to the endzone. This play happened on Roy's side, not Watkins, this is made obvious by the fact that he had to run all the way across the field to make the tackle.

You're still NOT GETTING IT.

Unless you know what defense was called, you HAVE NO IDEA who was at fault. As I said in my FIRST POST, Watkins could have been lined up on the wrong side. And the fact, that Roy, as a SS let him go, means that he probably thought he was lined up behind him. It may be a wrong assumption, but unless you know the DEFENSE that was called, you still have no idea who's fault it was.

Geez, get a clue.
 

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Cowboy4ever;1077406 said:
I am not going to blame Watkins for EITHER TD. He is a rookie, he will need help. On the first TD, ELLIS didn't do his job, that is who should be blamed for the first TD. On the second, Watkins did bite, but recovered, ROY mis judged the ball and looked like he never played the position before and didn't help the kid at all. Overall, Watkins did what rookies do. Its up to the VETs on D to step up and help the kid out.

Well, I'm not gonna excuse Watkins totally on the first TD. His responsibility on the corner blitz is clear as day...you got to cover the wideout. He tried to jump on something that wasn't there and got burnt. I don't know if it was Ellis or Spears who almost had the sack, but regardless, his duty was coverage and he didn't get it done. Gotta give McNabb some credit, there..made a nice play avoiding the sack and getting the ball downfield.

Man, if only Bledsoe had one ounce of McNabb's mobility. Geez.
 

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SultanOfSix;1077478 said:
You're still NOT GETTING IT.

Unless you know what defense was called, you HAVE NO IDEA who was at fault. As I said in my FIRST POST, Watkins could have been lined up on the wrong side. And the fact, that Roy, as a SS let him go, means that he probably thought he was lined up behind him. It may be a wrong assumption, but unless you know the DEFENSE that was called, you still have no idea who's fault it was.

Geez, get a clue.

Oh, I get what you are saying. It just makes no sense to me. LJ streaking down the field by himself, yet Roy is staring into the backfield instead of worrying about the TD running right by him.

Do you remember the play?

Ok, what about the one he misjudged, where is your spin on that? Or the two he did against the skins last year? I need some good spin for it, go for it.
 

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Deep_Freeze;1077524 said:
Oh, I get what you are saying. It just makes no sense to me. LJ streaking down the field by himself, yet Roy is staring into the backfield instead of worrying about the TD running right by him.

Do you remember the play?

Ok, what about the one he misjudged, where is your spin on that? Or the two he did against the skins last year? I need some good spin for it, go for it.

My God. Of the "two" against the 'Skins last year, one was mentioned by BP as not even Roy's fault because of the DEFENSE THAT WAS CALLED. So, where am I spinning anything?

It looks like you don't even know the facts about the situation.
 
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