Outside of Dez, we barely pose a threat passing wise

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

Not to take away from the always enlightening "one of our players suck" after a win threads, but did anybody watch Tyron in the two short clips against the Skins? I couldn't see the back of the jersey but I hope it said Raggedy Ann because that's how Tyron was playing with him.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I would not call him sure handed. He's adequate handed. His hands are TO-esque on their own, but he can develop.

Ok maybe not sure handed. But I haven't really seen him drop a pass until yesterday. But of course his had the ball perfectly placed. Maybe because his running good routes to begin with which makes it easier for Romo to delivery those types of passes to him. Frankly, I'm glad his on our team and producing. Which is more important than a dropped pass for sure.

 

[tyke1doe]

i dont care if he catches the ball with his feet so long as he catches it.

 

[Crown Royal]

For what it's worth, you're getting flak not because you posted about the problem with Williams' hands, but the thread title. To say that we barely pose a threat passing wise is absurd. The fact is, Rob Ryan agreed with that two weeks ago and WIlliams completely torched the saints because of it.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Unless Romo delivers a perfect ball to Williams and his chest, he is not catching it. He loves to use his body still. Evidence was there when he had to use his hands, and failed miserably.

How the hell did our scouts not see this?

He looks good at times, because Romo puts it in a spot that allows him to use his body, but what happens when he can't consistently do that?

He's a great athlete, yes he made a nice play, but we can't ignore the fact that one day him and his comfort of using his body to catch the ball, will come back to bite us in a huge game, where Dez is doubled, and we need a big play from Williams, where the ball might not be perfect, and his hands will be needed.

Why do we need over dramatic type of threads on this forum all the time.

He catches with his body..it is what it is. No need for the look at me over the top dramatic thread titles.


How about this...

He is tied for THIRD in the league with TDs by WRs.
He has one more TD than Dez.
So much for barely posing a threat passing wise besides dez....UNLESS IT IS TDs.

Quit being over dramatic.

 

[MWH1967]

Unless Romo delivers a perfect ball to Williams and his chest, he is not catching it. He loves to use his body still. Evidence was there when he had to use his hands, and failed miserably.

How the hell did our scouts not see this?

He looks good at times, because Romo puts it in a spot that allows him to use his body, but what happens when he can't consistently do that?

He's a great athlete, yes he made a nice play, but we can't ignore the fact that one day him and his comfort of using his body to catch the ball, will come back to bite us in a huge game, where Dez is doubled, and we need a big play from Williams, where the ball might not be perfect, and his hands will be needed.

lol. listen my Cowboys brother,,you got to focus here. I just hope there comes a time Dallas can keep both on the same roster. It's a gift right now.

I'll almost take Bryant -Williams over Irvin-Harper because T-Will is better and Witten and Novacek well, you make the call.

 

[DallasEast]

Yada yada yada. Williams sucks. Anyhoo, can someone explain why receivers (this includes Dez Bryant by the way) often backloop after making the catch? It happens in the pros, college, high school, etc. Often the receiver has made the first down, only to lose the first down by looping back towards the line of scrimmage. Usually, I am tempted to throw objects at my television each time this happens. Someone, please, take pity on my television's healthy condition and offer a non-Madden type explanation.

PS: I may end up throwing a stray kitten at my TV. Surely, some of you have enough compassion for a stray kitten's welfare, yes?

 

[BigStar]

The better way to word the OP question: How well would the passing game do if Dez were to go down? Non existent. That was the point and he is correct.

 

[joseephuss]

If only Dallas held onto Danny Amendola who catches passes with his hands and has 1 less career TD reception than Terrance Williams and also has less total receptions than Williams has TD receptions this season.

 

[conner01]

Maybe we can package a 1st & 3rd for a wide receiver prior to the trade deadline, it worked out perfectly last time

we could trade him for calvin johnson, oh wait. he has more drops than dez and williams combined

 

[Crown Royal]

The better way to word the OP question: How well would the passing game do if Dez were to go down? Non existent. That was the point and he is correct.

I don't really agree with this at all. Whoever they slide there would get far less attention than Dez does now. My guess is Street comes in and fills that role, with Harris helping sometimes.

 

[joseephuss]

The better way to word the OP question: How well would the passing game do if Dez were to go down? Non existent. That was the point and he is correct.

Was that his point? It didn't come across that way. And while the passing offense would suffer without Dez, which offense wouldn't without their best wide receiver option, it would be better than non-existent. We have seen Dallas play a few games without Dez the last few years and still able to produce passing yards and TDs. This year is different is that they have been able to run the ball, which will help even without Dez. Bryant is an important piece, but the offense won't be inept without him.

 

[BigStar]

Was that his point? It didn't come across that way. And while the passing offense would suffer without Dez, which offense wouldn't without their best wide receiver option, it would be better than non-existent. We have seen Dallas play a few games without Dez the last few years and still able to produce passing yards and TDs. This year is different is that they have been able to run the ball, which will help even without Dez. Bryant is an important piece, but the offense won't be inept without him.

I'm less hesitant to agree that the passing game wouldn't become handcuffed without Dez but could see the O doing OK bc of Linehan's creativity. More bubble screens, Witten seams, Beasley, etc. But without the true threat to draw coverage, it would likely be a very conservative offense that stays mainly underneath. A couple of games may allow the team to gameplan around the lagging talent left by Dez, but opponents would likely catch on after only a few games (if that). I read the OP that way, "Outisde of Dez, mainly TW, we don't have any threats on the outside" And he is 100% correct. Harris/Beasley are niche players and teams would triple Witten who would still likely make his impact felt via run blocking and critical first downs, but don't see many big plays without that coverage being pulled off of him.

 

[Proximo]

"Outside of Dez, we barely pose a threat passing wise".

LOL

Regardless of how Williams catches the ball, that is a straight up troll statement. Not even worth seriously discussing.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Unless Romo delivers a perfect ball to Williams and his chest, he is not catching it. He loves to use his body still. Evidence was there when he had to use his hands, and failed miserably.

How the hell did our scouts not see this?

He looks good at times, because Romo puts it in a spot that allows him to use his body, but what happens when he can't consistently do that?

He's a great athlete, yes he made a nice play, but we can't ignore the fact that one day him and his comfort of using his body to catch the ball, will come back to bite us in a huge game, where Dez is doubled, and we need a big play from Williams, where the ball might not be perfect, and his hands will be needed.

I don't have a problem with your opinion...
but the title of this tread is off base...imo

 

[BigStar]

I don't really agree with this at all. Whoever they slide there would get far less attention than Dez does now. My guess is Street comes in and fills that role, with Harris helping sometimes.

Making the attention sway back to TW/Witten. Without Dez, these are talented players, but no one that would make D's heavily account for (sway coverage). I'm sure Romo would make it work, but coverage would be much tighter and leave little room for DMurray or the underneath routes (Beasley/Witten) to breathe.

 

[TheBigEasy]

I needed a laugh on a Monday afternoon...thanks OP! Let's see, Williams is only a sophomore and has 5 touchdowns already in '14, didn't Witten go over 10,000 yards for his career, Cole Beasley seems to always move the chains when our backs are against the wall and there's a rookie on the bench whom was a stud @ Pitt and he can't seem to find the field because of the talent in front of him. Not to mention Murray and Randle have been known to catch a ball or two.

This thread is comical. Change the thread title to something related to William's catching form and you may be taken seriously.

 

[BigStar]

I needed a laugh on a Monday afternoon...thanks OP! Let's see, Williams is only a sophomore and has 5 touchdowns already in '14, didn't Witten go over 10,000 yards for his career, Cole Beasley seems to always move the chains when our backs are against the wall and there's a rookie on the bench whom was a stud @ Pitt and he can't seem to find the field because of the talent in front of him. Not to mention Murray and Randle have been known to catch a ball or two.

This thread is comical. Change the thread title to something related to William's catching form and you may be taken seriously.

Remove Dez from the equation = all of the above is negatively effected. Can anyone listed be a threat on there own? Witten has proven he was (but 15 targets @ this point, etc.) and TW is growing. But the team would lack a true #1 passing threat.

 

[Frozen700]

Why do we need over dramatic type of threads on this forum all the time.

He catches with his body..it is what it is. No need for the look at me over the top dramatic thread titles.


How about this...

He is tied for THIRD in the league with TDs by WRs.
He has one more TD than Dez.
So much for barely posing a threat passing wise besides dez....UNLESS IT IS TDs.

Quit being over dramatic.

Yeah, you don't like it. Don't read it, well maybe you have to because you are a mod.

No need to reply, getting all sensitive, about me being dramatic. Makes you look just as dramatic. Ever tried that? Didn't think so.

 

[LucaBrasi]

Williams is a body catcher, no doubt. Probably why he lasted until the 3rd round. Everything else about his game seems very good - speed, size, route running.

As far as Dez is concerned, he's won me over the last 2years or so, but yesterday that catch bailed out a pretty subpar game for him. He dropped a pass in a critical spot, and he continues to think he can get more yards than are there. He caught a pass for a first down and went backwards 2 yards, costing the first down. He seems to do that once per game.